Erratic mouse left click operation


K7MEM

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I updated to W11 about a month ago but this issue extends back to W10. I had hoped that it would be fixed when I moved to W11.

Anyway, I like to use the Logitech style mouse with the small USB dongle. I have been using them for years. However, the left click started to become erratic. It would often select items as I am passing over them or multi-click on items that I don't want. This drives me crazy when I'm in a HTML editor. I went into all of the mouse control areas and tried to see if it was something there. But couldn't find anything to fix it. So I thought it just might be the mouse.

First I went out and bought a new mouse. I bought a IHOME IH-M361B 6-button. It had a small USB dongle, similar to the Logitech mice. It seemed to work correctly, at first, but then degraded to the same erratic left click.

So I pulled my box of mice off the shelf (it seems I have quite a collection of mice) and started to do some swapping. First I tried several old USB connected mice. They all worked fine. No problems. Then I tried a couple of older Logitech mice (w/USB dongle) and they all gave the same erratic left click problem, except for one! That's the mouse I'm using now which is a old Logitech Invisible Optic Cordless Mouse & Logitech Receiver: C-BL4-MSE. It's kind of clumsy and the scroll wheel doesn't always scroll, but works good enough to not make me nuts..

I tried the other Logitech mice on another HP laptop and there doesn't seem to be any issues. Has anyone seen this issue before?
 
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    This computer is connected to my IC-735 radio.
I'm gonna state the obvious so forgive me, an issue with that receiver?
 

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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8145U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.30 GHz
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    8GB
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    930 GB
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    Built In
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    Wireless Logitech M650
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    15"
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    700 GB
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    This computer is connected to my IC-735 radio.
Which receiver? Each Logitech mouse had it's own USB dongle.
Yeah I saw that after a re-read, have you tried different ports
 

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    Dell Alienware M15 Ryzen Edition R6
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    AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
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Yeah I saw that after a re-read, have you tried different ports
Yes, I tried swapping everything I could think of, including laptops. I am starting to think this is a hardware issue and I'm stuck with a mouse that just works.
 

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    HP 15-dw0xx
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8145U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.30 GHz
    Memory
    8GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    930 GB
    Keyboard
    Built In
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    Wireless Logitech M650
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    Chrome 120.0.6099.218
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    Windows Defender
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    Cygwin64
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    Windows 10 Home, Version 22H2, Build19045.3693
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    HP Pavilion
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    AMD E-300 with Radeon HD Graphics 1.30 GHz
    Memory
    10GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD Graphics 1.30 GHz
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15"
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 1024
    Hard Drives
    700 GB
    Mouse
    Wireless
    Keyboard
    Wireless
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    This computer is connected to my IC-735 radio.
Erratic mouse behavior.....I read someplace where they put the mouse dongle into an extended usb port (slightly away from the pc) and it fixed their problem.
 

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    Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00 GHz x 2
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    8 GB
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Might be nice to have a programmable Click Duration; a short or a long click with different (user settable) actions.
 

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Erratic mouse behavior.....I read someplace where they put the mouse dongle into an extended usb port (slightly away from the pc) and it fixed their problem.
That is the only thing I haven't tried yet. I just purchases a new Targus USB 3.0 4-Port hub. I just tested the hub out with some new USB to Serial Port converter cables that talks to one of my transceivers. Thanks for the idea.
 

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    Windows 11 Home, 23H2, 22631.3374, Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1000.0
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 15-dw0xx
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8145U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.30 GHz
    Memory
    8GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    930 GB
    Keyboard
    Built In
    Mouse
    Wireless Logitech M650
    Browser
    Chrome 120.0.6099.218
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Cygwin64
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home, Version 22H2, Build19045.3693
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD E-300 with Radeon HD Graphics 1.30 GHz
    Memory
    10GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD Graphics 1.30 GHz
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15"
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 1024
    Hard Drives
    700 GB
    Mouse
    Wireless
    Keyboard
    Wireless
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    This computer is connected to my IC-735 radio.
Might be nice to have a programmable Click Duration; a short or a long click with different (user settable) actions.
There are settings for pointer speed, double click speed, and even a box for Enhanced pointer precision, but not duration. And it seem with each different mouse, these settings need to be adjusted.
 

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    Windows 11 Home, 23H2, 22631.3374, Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1000.0
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 15-dw0xx
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8145U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.30 GHz
    Memory
    8GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    930 GB
    Keyboard
    Built In
    Mouse
    Wireless Logitech M650
    Browser
    Chrome 120.0.6099.218
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Cygwin64
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home, Version 22H2, Build19045.3693
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD E-300 with Radeon HD Graphics 1.30 GHz
    Memory
    10GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD Graphics 1.30 GHz
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15"
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 1024
    Hard Drives
    700 GB
    Mouse
    Wireless
    Keyboard
    Wireless
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    This computer is connected to my IC-735 radio.
On a side note, is that your Radio Amateur Callsign? I am M0CBM
 

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    Dark Metallic Moon
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    Alienware M Series per-key AlienFX RGB
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    Alienware AW610M
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    Chrome and Firefox
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    Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller
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    Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier
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    Alienware Area 51m R2
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    10th Gen i-9 10900 K
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    32Gb Dual Channel DDR4 @ 8843MHz
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    Nvidia RTX 2080 Super
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    Nvidia
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    1920 x 1080
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    Hard Drive C: Samsung 2TB SSD PM981a NVMe
    Hard Drive D:Samsung 2TB SSD 970 EVO Plus
    Mouse
    Alienware 610M
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
On a side note, is that your Radio Amateur Callsign? I am M0CBM
Yes, it is my call sign. I have been licensed since 1965 and mostly operate CW. Good to hear you. I thought of asking this question on QRZ or Eham, but I think there is better help right here.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home, 23H2, 22631.3374, Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1000.0
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 15-dw0xx
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8145U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.30 GHz
    Memory
    8GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    930 GB
    Keyboard
    Built In
    Mouse
    Wireless Logitech M650
    Browser
    Chrome 120.0.6099.218
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Cygwin64
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home, Version 22H2, Build19045.3693
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD E-300 with Radeon HD Graphics 1.30 GHz
    Memory
    10GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD Graphics 1.30 GHz
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15"
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 1024
    Hard Drives
    700 GB
    Mouse
    Wireless
    Keyboard
    Wireless
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    This computer is connected to my IC-735 radio.
I had a B class licence G7OYW then passed the Morse test at 12wpm and got the present callsign I like DXCC and have 299 confirmed countries all with mic ( can't concentrate long enough for CW )
 

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    Alienware M18 R1
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    13th Gen Core i9 13900HX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 @4800MHz 2x16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 4090HX 16GB
    Sound Card
    Nvidia HD / Realtek ALC3254
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18" QHD+
    Screen Resolution
    25660 X 1600
    Hard Drives
    C: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    D: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    Case
    Dark Metallic Moon
    Keyboard
    Alienware M Series per-key AlienFX RGB
    Mouse
    Alienware AW610M
    Browser
    Chrome and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Norton
    Other Info
    Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller
    Killer Killer AX1690 Wi-Fi Network Adaptor Wi-Fi 6E
    Bluetooth 5.2
    Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Alienware Area 51m R2
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    10th Gen i-9 10900 K
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    32Gb Dual Channel DDR4 @ 8843MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2080 Super
    Sound Card
    Nvidia
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    1920 x 1080
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    Hard Drive C: Samsung 2TB SSD PM981a NVMe
    Hard Drive D:Samsung 2TB SSD 970 EVO Plus
    Mouse
    Alienware 610M
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
Maybe get a wireless mouse? My stepson has one and has never had any issues.
 

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    Windows 11
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    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
Maybe get a wireless mouse? My stepson has one and has never had any issues.
Thanks. Maybe I wasn't clear with my post. The only mice that are giving me problems are the wireless mice.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home, 23H2, 22631.3374, Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1000.0
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 15-dw0xx
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8145U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.30 GHz
    Memory
    8GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    930 GB
    Keyboard
    Built In
    Mouse
    Wireless Logitech M650
    Browser
    Chrome 120.0.6099.218
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Cygwin64
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home, Version 22H2, Build19045.3693
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD E-300 with Radeon HD Graphics 1.30 GHz
    Memory
    10GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD Graphics 1.30 GHz
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15"
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 1024
    Hard Drives
    700 GB
    Mouse
    Wireless
    Keyboard
    Wireless
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    This computer is connected to my IC-735 radio.
Ah sorry, I misread - I just read usb connected and thought they were wired.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home, 23H2, 22631.3374, Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1000.0
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 15-dw0xx
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8145U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.30 GHz
    Memory
    8GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    930 GB
    Keyboard
    Built In
    Mouse
    Wireless Logitech M650
    Browser
    Chrome 120.0.6099.218
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Cygwin64
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home, Version 22H2, Build19045.3693
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD E-300 with Radeon HD Graphics 1.30 GHz
    Memory
    10GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD Graphics 1.30 GHz
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15"
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 1024
    Hard Drives
    700 GB
    Mouse
    Wireless
    Keyboard
    Wireless
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    This computer is connected to my IC-735 radio.
Looks like a wired mouse for now then and I have no idea what the issue is! But others may know. I do know my stepson had one that used to have a not so good connection and the one above he has had no issues with.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
This might help - it says update the mouse drivers. But maybe you've already done that. Also (and sorry if this seems a bit obvious) but try new batteries? We had one not working properly when the batteries were getting down. Again you've probably tried that already.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
See if this makes any difference. Try opening an administrative command prompt and typing
SET DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
In Device manager set view to show hidden devices. Uninstall all mice, keyboard, and human interface devices that are grayed out.
Restart
Then from admin cmd type DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=0

You stated you had the problem back in 10 as well. Since you upgraded as opposed to clean install there is a possibility your mouse drivers were corrupted in 10 and it carried over to 11.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
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