Google allegedly crippling Edge and Firefox's YouTube performance

antspants · Dec 1, 2023

Serious bear said:
Double LOL! No, make it a triple LOL! The funny thing is everyone I meet moans they do NOT have enough time.

Yes. The world is moving too fast. Unless you’re using Firefox for Google, apparently.

zebal · Dec 1, 2023

atinfo said:
Do you mean this?

No comment dude, you put Brink's link lol

As I said I don't read reddit so have no idea who is and isn't there, but like 80% of posts I come across resulted in clicking the backbutton in my browser due to idiotism.

atinfo · Dec 1, 2023

zebal said:
As I said I don't read reddit so have no idea who is and isn't there, but like 80% of posts I come across resulted in clicking the backbutton in my browser due to idiotism.

How can you understand 80% of a jungle without seeing it all? :woozy:

zebal said:
No comment dude, you put Brink's link lol

Just joking, don't take my words (here) seriously! :wink:

zebal · Dec 1, 2023

atinfo said:
Just joking, don't take my words (here) seriously!

of course not, joke accepted

Brink is certainly skilled admin and wise person.

atinfo · Dec 1, 2023

zebal said:
of course not, joke accepted

This is called a person with an aspect... :thumbsup:

ThrashZone · Dec 1, 2023

Hi,
I don't visit googletube very often
Only to occasionally rip music or look at a video of something I want to buy but that is rare to seeing there are far better reviews no where near googletube.

atinfo · Dec 1, 2023

ThrashZone said:
...to occasionally rip music...

ThrashZone said:
...that is rare to seeing there are far better reviews no where near googletube....

Munk1955 · Dec 1, 2023

Just the other day I decided to give chrome a try again like after 5 years and after I got it all loaded up YT vids were lagging at the start of ever vid but after I cleared the browser of all cookies it is now playing very quick and fantastic as good as any browser I have ever used.

hdmi · Dec 1, 2023

atinfo said:
99% of video thumbnails are clickbait and have nothing to do anything with the video content.

99.9% of thumbnails that are clickbait are just a dead giveaway, so... If a thumbnail doesn't look dull enough to me, usually I don't click on it. I'm half a century old. There's pros and there's cons to being right in the middle of Gen X.

atinfo said:
99% of titles can't explain the whole video in just 5 to 10 words! 99% of descriptions (below the video) are just the video (content) creator's social links, and they never describe what's going on in the video to push you to watch the video. 99.99% of videos show their content quality in the first 15 seconds ...

If the description text below the video gives me the clear impression that the content creator's social links are almost the only things that matter, either I just skip the whole video altogether or I skip the first 15+ seconds because I don't like loud intros, and I just want to find out first if the rest of the video is overly zealous/unintelligible/lingering/etc. so that I can more quickly decide between going back to the start of the video and skipping the video.

atinfo · Dec 2, 2023

hdmi said:
99.9% of thumbnails that are clickbait are just a dead giveaway, so... If a thumbnail doesn't look dull enough to me, usually I don't click on it.

Two of my friends are vloggers with a considerable following. One has 710 K subscribers, while the other has 274 K. They both use clickbait thumbnails and include only social media links in their video descriptions. Additionally, they have 5-10 second intros and consistently receive an average of 250-300 K views per video. It appears that their strategy of using clickbait thumbnails and including social media links in the video description is effective. These channels are in Persian, which is my native language. :zany:

hdmi said:
If the description text below the video gives me the clear impression that the content creator's social links are almost the only things that matter, either I just skip the whole video altogether or I skip the first 15+ seconds because I don't like loud intros...

May come across as offensive, but no offence! What you're saying doesn't make any sense.

Josey Wales · Dec 2, 2023

I am no longer getting Notifications from Channels that I subscribed to using Firefox 120 & 121 Beta 6.

atinfo · Dec 2, 2023

Another clue of their nasty behaviour...

hdmi · Dec 3, 2023

atinfo said:
Two of my friends are vloggers with a considerable following. One has 710 K subscribers, while the other has 274 K. They both use clickbait thumbnails and include only social media links in their video descriptions. Additionally, they have 5-10 second intros and consistently receive an average of 250-300 K views per video. It appears that their strategy of using clickbait thumbnails and including social media links in the video description is effective. These channels are in Persian, which is my native language.

Of course it's still a highly effective strategy. It's just that I am fairly immune to that strategy I mean, the easiest fastest way to find an interesting video IMO is to google for Kevin Bridges. Often times you don't even have to click on the Videos tab of the search results page to find the video you're looking for. One of my biggest favorites is the one about house rice. Or if you also understand the Dutch language, Hans Teeuwen would be another good option. Hans Teeuwen Amerika. :)

atinfo said:
May come across as offensive, but no offence! What you're saying doesn't make any sense.

Content creators who are in the habit of forcing potential viewers to start watching the video if they want to find out what the video is about are most often content creators whose content I tend to dislike. So, for me, this very often happens to be just another quick easy way to weed them out. Also for me and for what kind of videos I like, watching the start of a video isn't usually the bestest fastest way to get an early impression of whether there's a good chance that I will still be interested in watching the video, as the start of the video isn't necessarily always representative of the main content. In a way, it can be kind of like watching a trailer of a theatrical movie. Trailers and intros can also tend to be misleading, even though not all of them are meant to deceive of course. There's the problem of disiformation, and there's also the problem of misinformation. In my line of work, it is compulsory to look for specific information in places where the average person doesn't look. I am not a computer forensics expert by far, but there is at least some considerable overlap between that field and my career experience (I am a trained Enterprise Java software dev).

Edwin · May 5, 2024

I've fecking had it with info cards!!! :ffs:

The Artist didn't even reach the culminating crescendo and up pops info cards!!! :ffs:

Can't block them either!!! Gotta watch it PIP to avoid the stupid cards!!! :ffs:

Can you tell I'm really p*ssed!?!?!?

hdmi · May 5, 2024

Edwin said:
I've fecking had it with info cards!!!
The Artist didn't even reach the culminating crescendo and up pops info cards!!!
Can't block them either!!! Gotta watch it PIP to avoid the stupid cards!!!
Can you tell I'm really p*ssed!?!?!?

View attachment 95395

Click on the uBlock Origin icon
In the bottom right of the menu that appears, click on the gearwheels icon to open the Dashboard
Select the My Filters tab

Paste these 2 lines into the large box:

Code:

www.youtube.com##.ytp-ce-element
www.youtube.com##.ytp-cards-teaser

Click on Apply changes
Open or refresh the video page on YouTube
Enjoy!

Edwin · May 5, 2024

hdmi said:
Enjoy!

Immensely! Thank You!

Edwin · May 5, 2024

And...
Do you know why YouTube auto-generated playlist videos have comments turned off?
Could it be so that there's not a barrage of hate comments from YT creating content from other uploader's hard work!?!?!?

hdmi · May 5, 2024

Edwin said:
And...
Do you know why YouTube auto-generated playlist videos have comments turned off?
Could it be so that there's not a barrage of hate comments from YT creating content from other uploader's hard work!?!?!?

AFAIK songs uploaded by a distributor or label will typically have comments turned off, and, I suppose that it is fairly common for YouTube to auto-generate playlists from these particular types of uploads.

EDIT: the ones that have the word 'topic' added are created by YouTube and are higher quality audio; this is done because a lot of (especially older) videos have poor audio quality e.g. as a result of using a low bitrate.

EDIT2: songs with 'topic' at the end of the title appear to be the same versions as the ones that are on YouTube Music.

EDIT3:

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/lizydc/whats_the_deal_with_the_autogenerated_by_youtube