Grr....Call of Duty forcing me to update my BIOS


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pparks1

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I'm not a frequent BIOS updater. Once the box is built and running stable, I really like to leave well enough alone.

I pre-ordered the new Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4 and it's forcing me to update my BIOS for the anti-cheat stuff.

Wish me luck. LOL. I'm only like 14 updates behind.
 

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pparks1 said:
I'm not a frequent BIOS updater. Once the box is built and running stable, I really like to leave well enough alone.

I pre-ordered the new Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4 and it's forcing me to update my BIOS for the anti-cheat stuff.

Wish me luck. LOL. I'm only like 14 updates behind.
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I want to say 'Boo fricken hoo' because I have no TPM at all. No playing for me until I get a new system. :p
 

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Ghot said:
I'd find a different game. ^^
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I play it with a bunch of friends and already bought it. Gotta move forward.

My bios is from 2021 currently. But system has been rock solid stable since day I built it.
 

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pparks1 said:
I play it with a bunch of friends and already bought it. Gotta move forward.

My bios is from 2021 currently. But system has been rock solid stable since day I built it.
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Assuming we're discussing your Desktop with the X570 ASUS motherboard...
Be careful, I had a BIOS upgrade break Windows activation.

Specifically, the one with this description... (5201 BIOS in my case)

This BIOS update for Picasso, Raven, Matisse, Vermeer, Renoir, and Cezanne systems includes a critical fTPM firmware upgrade, enhancing security and optimizing game compatibility. Before proceeding, back up your BitLocker recovery key and suspend BitLocker encryption in your operating system to prevent potential boot issues.
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And all the subsequent BIOSes were... cumulative.


I believe it was this that broke the activation... "includes a critical fTPM firmware upgrade".
Made MS think I got a new CPU. :/

NOTE: It took a few days for the activation to break.




Ofc, rather than battle with MS I just bought a new product key from Stack Social. $9.97

Just in case... still $9.97

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Ghot said:
Assuming we're discussing your Desktop with the X570 ASUS motherboard...
Be careful, I had a BIOS upgrade break Windows activation.

Specifically, the one with this description... (5201 BIOS in my case)



And all the subsequent BIOSes were... cumulative.


I believe it was this that broke the activation... "includes a critical fTPM firmware upgrade".
Made MS think I got a new CPU. :/

NOTE: It took a few days for the activation to break.




Ofc, rather than battle with MS I just bought a new product key from Stack Social. $9.97

Just in case... still $9.97

www.stacksocial.com

Windows 11 Pro: BitLocker, Hyper-V & Azure AD—Lifetime License, One-Time Purchase

<p>Microsoft-Verified Partner! Upgrade Your Windows OS and Enjoy Enhanced UI, Better Multitasking, and Improved Security</p>
www.stacksocial.com www.stacksocial.com
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Good to know, will keep an eye on it. Its is my rig strix x570e gaming.
 

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pparks1 said:
Good to know, will keep an eye on it. Its is my rig strix x570e gaming.
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I'd hope that you could re-activate using the Activation Troubleshooter, but that may require that the machine has an MS Account.

(I'm not certain about that.)
 

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I upgraded my bios for the demo and it still didn't work. MSI said my board was end of life and they weren't pushing out another bios for it.
 

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Just curious: does the "anti-cheat" software require something beyond TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot?

Does any BIOS update add firmware TPM, fTPM (AMD) or PTT (Intel)? The only thing I've seen is that some BIOS updates enabled the firmware TPM by default, to ready the motherboard for a Windows 11 install.
 

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My X570 HERO build is in pieces right now but I can well imagine that it will need a few BIOS updates when I finally put it back together. Often times you can just jump ahead to the latest non-beta update. I'd try that first. If that one fails then you will likely have to do it step-by-step like I did with my X299. Usually flashing the BIOS isn't a big deal these days. I wouldn't worry about it much.
 

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bobkn said:
I'd hope that you could re-activate using the Activation Troubleshooter, but that may require that the machine has an MS Account.

(I'm not certain about that.)
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I have an MS account but it's not tied to my Win 11 install, which has a local account.
I believe that was the issue.
Also, in my case, the activation troubleshooter didn't help. Probably for the same reason.
 

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  • At a glance

    Win 11 Home 26H2 26300.9711AMD Ryzen 7 3700XG.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    OS
    Win 11 Home 26H2 26300.9711
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 5302)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
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    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
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    Bitdefender Total Security
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    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1

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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
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    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?
bobkn said:
Just curious: does the "anti-cheat" software require something beyond TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot?

Does any BIOS update add firmware TPM, fTPM (AMD) or PTT (Intel)? The only thing I've seen is that some BIOS updates enabled the firmware TPM by default, to ready the motherboard for a Windows 11 install.
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This is what i have found
 

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    Windows 11 ProIntel Core i5-8279u32GB DDR4 2666MhzIntel Iris Plus 655
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.

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    Windows 10 ProRyzen 9 5900x64GB DDR4-3600EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.
If I understand correctly, you cannot play any game using anti-cheat technology without TPM and Secure Boot? Thanks God I only play casual games without demanding new hardware or an expensive graphics card.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (7584), 26H2 (9711)Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz4GBMobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (7584), 26H2 (9711)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    802.11g wireless 54 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 26H2 (build 26300.9711)Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generat...2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB...
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 26H2 (build 26300.9711)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Microsoft Compact Optical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    802.11ac 5GHz wireless 260Mpbs
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
spapakons said:
If I understand correctly, you cannot play any game using anti-cheat technology without TPM and Secure Boot? Thanks God I only play casual games without demanding new hardware or an expensive graphics card.
Click to expand...
Just some games released over the last couple of years. Many games use anti-cheat that does not require TPM or secure boot. But those requirements are becoming more common on new releases. Older versions of Call of Duty, Battlefield, etc, use anti-cheat tech that doesn't require it.
 

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Windows 11 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
EVGA home brew
CPU
Broadwell-e 6850K 4.5ghz @1.36v
Motherboard
EVGA X99 FTW K
Memory
32GB Corsair LPM 3600 C16
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EVGA RTX 3080Ti FTW
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Asus Centurion true 7.1 headset. (5 speakers in each earpeice)
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LG C4 55"
Screen Resolution
4K 144hz
Hard Drives
Various models of SSDs ~10TB No HDDs installed.
PSU
be quiet! BN516 Straight Power 12-1000w 80 Plus Platinum
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Corsair 780T modified to dual 200mm intake fans
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Corsair H110i
Keyboard
Corsair K95 Platinum
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Corsair M65 RGB Elite
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50Mbs
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