How long will MS release Win 11 updates? When is EOL of last update?


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Having just upgraded from Win 10 I am in no mood to upgrade to Win 12, which seems less attractive since AI will be in the Win 12 DNA. Anyone know? Speculate?
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21H2 was released October 2021, and they’ve been saying 10 years for major version numbers.

x509 said:
Having just upgraded from Win 10 I am in no mood to upgrade to Win 12, which seems less attractive since AI will be in the Win 12 DNA.
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Well you’re in luck. No such thing exists. Might as well be afraid of Santa or smart politicians.
 

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pseymour said:
21H2 was released October 2021, and they’ve been saying 10 years for major version numbers.
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Great. I guess I can start to work in the early 2030s. If my eyesight hasn't failed by then.
pseymour said:
Well you’re in luck. No such thing exists.
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It's rumored. And you have to assume that MS is always working on some kind of Windows upgrade.
pseymour said:
Might as well be afraid of Santa
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Naw.
pseymour said:
or smart politicians.
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Only "stable genius" types.
 

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x509 said:
am in no mood to upgrade to Win 12, which seems less attractive since AI will be in the Win 12 DNA
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An AI responce:

Microsoft has been incorporating artificial intelligence (AI) into Windows since the early 2000s, with notable examples like the virtual assistant "Clippy" and later, the more advanced "Cortana" which was introduced in Windows 10 in 2014; signifying a significant step towards integrating AI directly into the operating system
 

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Most processors/videcards in use do not have artificial intelligence units built in.
Therefore, it is unlikely that the use of artificial intelligence will be mandatory in Windows 12.
 

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End date of support for Windows 11

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Windows 11 Home and Pro - Microsoft Lifecycle

Windows 11 Home and Pro follows the Modern Lifecycle Policy.
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Windows 11 Enterprise and Education - Microsoft Lifecycle

Windows 11 Enterprise and Education follows the Modern Lifecycle Policy.
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Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2024 - Microsoft Lifecycle

Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2024 follows the Fixed Lifecycle Policy.
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Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC 2024 - Microsoft Lifecycle

Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC 2024 follows the Fixed Lifecycle Policy.
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Only the IoT Enterprise version has 10 years. Consumer versions have 2 years, enterprise and education 3 years, Enterprise LTSC 5 years.
 

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Marcus Vinicus said:
End date of support for Windows 11

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Only the IoT Enterprise version has 10 years. Consumer versions have 2 years, enterprise and education 3 years, Enterprise LTSC 5 years.
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Consumer versions may have a lifetime of 2 years. But how long will some version of Windows 11 be the mainstream Microsoft OS?

(It's possible that the sunset of 11 hasn't been planned yet.)
 

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bobkn said:
Consumer versions may have a lifetime of 2 years. But how long will some version of Windows 11 be the mainstream Microsoft OS?

(It's possible that the sunset of 11 hasn't been planned yet.)
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We'll know if/when MS start officially talking about their next OS.
 

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bobkn said:
Consumer versions may have a lifetime of 2 years. But how long will some version of Windows 11 be the mainstream Microsoft OS?

(It's possible that the sunset of 11 hasn't been planned yet.)
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@bobkn articulated the question better than I have.

My big issue with Win 11 migration was all the changes in the UI, gratuitous in my not so humble opinion. So for me, a key part of the migration was trying to get the UI to remember resemble Windows 10 as much as possible. I have no desire to revert the UI back to Win 7, btw. When the Win 11 replacement is released, I can only hope that MS "extends" the Win 11 UI, not toss it into the blender and turn the switch to high.
 
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x509 said:
@bobkn articulated the question better than I have.

My big issue with Win 11 migration was all the changes in the UI, gratuitous in my not so humble opinion. So for me, a key part of the migration was trying to get the UI to remember Windows 10 as much as possible. I have no desire to revert the UI back to Win 7, btw. When the Win 11 replacement is released, I can only hope that MS "extends" the Win 11 UI, not toss it into the blender and turn the switch to high.
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Indeed I totally agree. I'm staying with Win 10 as long as I can. I have Win 11 in a VM if I absolutely need it for something.

Win 12 UI will probably be just a blank window and you type requests to Copilot to do everything. No mouse, no ICONs, no windows, nada.

Or maybe just a screen with a microphone that you use to chat with CoPilot. No need for a keyboard or mouse or any of those fancy things.

Just like an iPhone. Whoops.
 

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x509 said:
I can only hope that MS "extends" the Win 11 UI, not toss it into the blender and turn the switch to high.
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They need something to do to justify their jobs. Rearranging the furniture is the only thing left.
 

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MEG Ai1300P PCIE 5 & ATX 3.0 PSU 1300 watts
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Phanteks (PH-ES614PTG_BK) Enthoo Pro ATX , Tempered Glass, Integrated RGB Lighting
Cooling
ENERMAX LIQMAXFLO 360mm A-RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler
Keyboard
Wireless logitech
Mouse
Wireless logitech
Marcus Vinicus said:
Only the IoT Enterprise version has 10 years. Consumer versions have 2 years, enterprise and education 3 years, Enterprise LTSC 5 years.
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You're mixing up support for specific builds of Windows versus the major OS version. Windows 10 was supported for a little over 10 years. Windows 8.1 was a little over 9. Windows 8 had a shortened cycle, because they wanted everyone on 8.1, which took very little effort. Windows 7 got a little over 10. Vista over 10. Windows XP over a dozen.
 

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pseymour said:
You're mixing up support for specific builds of Windows versus the major OS version. Windows 10 was supported for a little over 10 years. Windows 8.1 was a little over 9. Windows 8 had a shortened cycle, because they wanted everyone on 8.1, which took very little effort. Windows 7 got a little over 10. Vista over 10. Windows XP over a dozen.
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Then go here for an overview of support dates for MS software.

learn.microsoft.com

Search Product and Services Lifecycle Information - Microsoft Lifecycle

Note Export lifecycle information from the Lifecycle Export page. Microsoft Lifecycle provides consistent and predictable guidelines for support throughout the life of a product, helping customers manage their IT investments and environments while strategically planning for the future. Search...
learn.microsoft.com
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 26H2
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 3202
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
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    External DAC: Cambridge Audio DACMagic200M - Headphone Amps: Topping L70 & SMSL H400
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S95F OLED 55" TV
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
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    Lexar NZ790 4TB
    LaCie d2 Professional 6TB external - USB 3.1
    Seagate Expansion 16TB external - USB 3.2
    Seagate One Touch 18TB external HD - USB 3.0
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    Corsair RM1200x Shift
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    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
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    NAUTILUS 360 RS Liquid CPU Cooler
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    Incase Ergonomic USB (Microsoft clone)
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    Logitech MX Master 3S
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    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
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    Microsoft Edge Chromium
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    Bitdefender Total Security
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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Vivobook X1605VA
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-13900H
    Motherboard
    Asus X1605VA bios 309
    Memory
    32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    *Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7
    Sound Card
    Realtek | Intel SST Bluetooth & USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.0-inch, WUXGA 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 60hz
    Hard Drives
    512GB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
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    Bitdefender Total Security
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Windows 11 Enterprise 25H2
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Windows 11 Enterprise 25H2
pseymour said:
21H2 was released October 2021, and they’ve been saying 10 years for major version numbers.
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Do you have a reliable source/weblink to support that statement?
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 26H2
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 3202
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
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    External DAC: Cambridge Audio DACMagic200M - Headphone Amps: Topping L70 & SMSL H400
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S95F OLED 55" TV
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
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    Lexar NZ790 4TB
    LaCie d2 Professional 6TB external - USB 3.1
    Seagate Expansion 16TB external - USB 3.2
    Seagate One Touch 18TB external HD - USB 3.0
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    Corsair RM1200x Shift
    Case
    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
    Cooling
    NAUTILUS 360 RS Liquid CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Incase Ergonomic USB (Microsoft clone)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    AMD Radeon Software & Drivers
    Hasleo Backup Suite
    Dashlane password manager
    Kensington Verimark fingerprint reader
    Logitech Brio 4K webcam
    Orico 10-port powered USB 3.0 hub

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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2Intel® Core™ i9-13900H32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel*Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Vivobook X1605VA
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-13900H
    Motherboard
    Asus X1605VA bios 309
    Memory
    32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    *Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7
    Sound Card
    Realtek | Intel SST Bluetooth & USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.0-inch, WUXGA 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 60hz
    Hard Drives
    512GB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    720p Webcam
    WiFi & USB to ethernet
bobkn said:
(It's possible that the sunset of 11 hasn't been planned yet.)
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Having worked in large software companies, I am 147.5591409% sure that MS has a target date for EOL of Win 11. A date which will probably slip at least 1 year.


AK6DN said:
Indeed I totally agree. I'm staying with Win 10 as long as I can.
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I have to switch to Win 11 by October because at least one of my major software vendors won't release upgrades on an unsupported OS.
 

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Windows 11 2H25
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DIY
CPU
AMD 9900X
Motherboard
MSI X870E Carbon
Memory
64 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 9070 XT
Sound Card
built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 24"
Hard Drives
Sabrent 1 TB NVMe, 4 x SSD (need to check models), 4 x 3.5" HDD, 8-16 TB, all WD
PSU
Seasonic 850
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Fractal Design North XL (which I likw)
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Corsair AIO for CPU, fans for case
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Das Keyboard 4
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Corsair M65 (white)
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1 TB download
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Firefox
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Bitdefender
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Windows 12 is planned for 2027/2028...
 

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Windows 11 Pro 24H2
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Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
LG
CPU
i7 Ultra
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel
Sound Card
Intel Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Laptop 17" & TB4 Dell 27" QHD Ultrasharp w/integral TB4 hub
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2560x1600
Hard Drives
1TB SSD, 5 external WDs
Mouse
Logitech Master MX 3S
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Vivaldi
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Kaspersky Premium Suite

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    Windows 11 26300.9278
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Amd Threadripper 7970X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte TRX50 Aero D Rev. 1.0
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    128GB (4 X 32) G.Skill DDR5 6400 (RDIMM)
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    Gigabyte RTX 4090 OC
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    none (USB to speakers), Realtek
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    Innocn 32" OLED
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    3840 X 2160 @ 60Hz
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    Crucial T700 2TB M.2 NVME SSD
    WD 4TB Blue SATA SSD
    Seagate 18TB IronWolf Pro
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    BeQuiet! Straight Power 12 1500W
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    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo XL
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    SilverStone Technology XE360-TR5, with 3 Phanteks T30 fans
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    Cherry KC 500 MX LP (mechanical)
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    Logitech M500s (wired)
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    2000/250 Mbps (down/up)
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    homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel I9-13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus RoG Strix Z690-E
    Memory
    64GB G.Skill DDR5-6000
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
    Sound Card
    built in Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27E1N8900 27" OLED
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850 1TB
    8TB Seagate Ironwolf
    4TB Seagate Ironwolf
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 1300 GT
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Cherry Streaming (wired)
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
Morph000 said:
Windows 12 is planned for 2027/2028...
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Good. We are all safe until then.

I'm sure that once Win 12 is announced, Microsoft will start putting the arm on us to migrate. But I like to use an OS major release for at least 5 years.
 

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OS
Windows 11 2H25
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY
CPU
AMD 9900X
Motherboard
MSI X870E Carbon
Memory
64 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 9070 XT
Sound Card
built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 24"
Hard Drives
Sabrent 1 TB NVMe, 4 x SSD (need to check models), 4 x 3.5" HDD, 8-16 TB, all WD
PSU
Seasonic 850
Case
Fractal Design North XL (which I likw)
Cooling
Corsair AIO for CPU, fans for case
Keyboard
Das Keyboard 4
Mouse
Corsair M65 (white)
Internet Speed
1 TB download
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Other Info
Also have Lenovo T14S laptop (me) and Lenovo Slim 71 (wife)
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