How much security value is gained if I run Windows in a local user account?


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I'm going to install Windows on my laptop and I'm trying to see how much more secure it is when I use Windows as a local standard user instead of as Administrator.

In my current installation I have three accounts, that is an Administrator account, a local Administrator and a local standard user. On a daily basis I use the computer as local user and whenever necessary, for example when installing or uninstalling programs, I'm prompted to enter an Administrator account password. This is occasionally irritating and anyway having three accounts probably takes up unnecessarily some extra space on my hard disk.

Nobody else uses my laptop.

I understand that when I install Windows I'll have created an Administrator account and it will be a Microsoft account. If I recall correctly from what I read in the past, it's advisable to have a second Administrator account, probably a Local one. Should I go ahead and do this and do away with the local standard user account? Which of these accounts would then be used normally?
 
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For what it is worth I have always through all the various Windows OS that have come out only ever had a local account always installed the OS via the F2 or F12 keys and the Bios boot screen and never ever had any trouble over at least decades as I roll back to Windows 3.0 and DOS 6.22 but in more modern times always used a local account and have mostly well since Windows 10 used MS Defender as antivirus with Trojan Remover software and I am no well behaved only safe sites browsing person.
 

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instead of as Administrator.
If you want any control at all over your system don't use a local standard user alone. It has too many limitations. A Standard user is not allowed to install new or even run certain existing apps on the computer. You cannot change Windows passwords and create new Administrator or Standard user accounts. If you want to use a standard user account as your daily driver, that's fine. But be sure to have a second user with administrative rights available. You'll need it.
 

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If you want any control at all over your system don't use a local standard user alone. It has too many limitations. A Standard user is not allowed to install new or even run certain existing apps on the computer. You cannot change Windows passwords and create new Administrator or Standard user accounts. If you want to use a standard user account as your daily driver, that's fine. But be sure to have a second user with administrative rights available. You'll need it.
Thank you for the comments. I understand the limitations that you refer to, as they are indeed typical of my laptop use.

I wonder if these limitations also add some security, for example against malware attempting to change something in Program Files. I mean would the malware be prevented from taking the actions that you mention in the same way that I am as a local user or would this not be a serious barrier to malware?
 

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The only security you gain with a standard account is that Windows will ask you 17 times... are you sure?... whenever you try to do anything.
If you are the only user, and no one else COULD use your computer... then there's nothing wrong with an Administrator account.

You will just need to remember to ask yourself... are you sure?... 17 times. :)
 

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Standard accounts are mainly for guests, or when the kid might get on your computer, or when you might have been partying too hardily. Other than that...

Internally... a standard account makes it more difficult for infection or problem to spread if you're already infected, or already have a problem.

But mainly... just remember to double check (think), everything you do, and an Admin account is fine.


And, as has been said about 57,000 times on these forums... use backup software.
That's the most useful software ever invented. :)
 

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And, as has been said about 57,000 times on these forums... use backup software.
That's the most useful software ever invented. :)
I totally agree with you about that. I take backups in an insanely regular schedule and on different devices, both locally and to remote locations.
 

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I totally agree with you about that. I take backups in an insanely regular schedule and on different devices, both locally and to remote locations.



Standard accounts are for folks that do things like download and install programs like Kazaa or Napster. Or have browsers that look like this...

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You don't strike me as someone like that. :)


Now IF there are others in your household that could possibly get on your computer... then sure, a standard account might be useful.
 

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I understand that when I install Windows I'll have created an Administrator account and it will be a Microsoft account.
Not necessarily. If you install W11 Pro you do have the option to use a local account as the first account.

If I recall correctly from what I read in the past, it's advisable to have a second Administrator account, probably a Local one.
It is always a good idea to have a second local administrator account. This give you a way into the machine if you ever get locked out of your main account.

I'm trying to see how much more secure it is when I use Windows as a local standard user instead of as Administrator.

Not much, really. Actually even when you are signed in as an administrator you are running everything with standard user privileges. Whenever a process wants to run with administrator rights you will be challenged and asked if you really want to allow this. The only real difference between a standard user and an administrator is that an administrator can just click 'OK' to do so. A standard user would have to provide the password of an administrator account to continue.

So if malware tried to run with admin rights you would be asked whether or not to allow it. As long as you don't just click 'OK' without thinking then it is as safe to used an administrator account as it would be to use a standard account.
 
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OK, I'm sold. I'll create two Administrator accounts and goodbye to the irritating need to enter a password several times during the day!

See you on the other side of my installation :D
 

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For my home computer, I just use the single account created when the box was first installed with Windows 10. So, my standard user account that has admin access.

On my work computer, I have to run with a standard user account and then I have a secondary account with admin access. A handful of times per day I have to enter in my secondary account name, and my 20+ character (required) complex password. I survive. I used to have it setup on my finterprint reader. 1 finger was my standard account and the 2nd finger was admin account. But then they disabled the fingerprint readers on all machines, so I lost that luxury.
 

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I used to have it setup on my finterprint reader. 1 finger was my standard account and the 2nd finger was admin account. But then they disabled the fingerprint readers on all machines, so I lost that luxury.
A fingerprint reader is very useful indeed. That's what I use when I switch from one account to an other.
 

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I'm trying to see how much more secure it is when I use Windows as a local standard user instead of as Administrator.
Enormously, malware will not be able to auto-elevate, that is basically how all the infections work.
I use admin account with UAC at max, because standard user account would be too bothersome.
 

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    Antivirus
    NoAV + Binisoft WFC + NextDNS
    Other Info
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170 (09/10)

Fortitude

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I'm pleased to say that I finished a clean install of Windows and other programs. It took me half a day to prepare and two full days to install everything. The preparation consisted of creating a list of programs, finding and saving most of my programs' settings as well as ensuring that I would have the latest versions on hand for installation. I didn't experience many serious problems although I did waste some time at specific stages. I made relevant notes for the future. I created two Administrator accounts and it has been very easy to install my programs using an Administrator account.

What's also important is that the problem that I mentioned in this posting has been solved.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2 OS Build 22621.675
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 5482 2-in-1
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-8565U
    Memory
    8GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps/300Mbps (nominal)
    Browser
    Chrome, Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Defender UI, Voodooshield

Fabler2

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I'm pleased to say that I finished a clean install of Windows and other programs. It took me half a day to prepare and two full days to install everything. The preparation consisted of creating a list of programs, finding and saving most of my programs' settings as well as ensuring that I would have the latest versions on hand for installation. I didn't experience many serious problems although I did waste some time at specific stages. I made relevant notes for the future. I created two Administrator accounts and it has been very easy to install my programs using an Administrator account.

What's also important is that the problem that I mentioned in this posting has been solved.
Now all you need to do is make an image backup, to save all the hassle and time, if anything goes feet up again :wink:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro & Dev.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X509DA (FP5)
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX Vega 10 Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 1 TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2
    Internet Speed
    25 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER NITRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
    Memory
    16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    180 Watt, 19.5 V
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    25 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender

Dch48

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I've never understood the need for anything other than the Microsoft account running as administrator. All the local account stuff seems silly to me. I also set up my computer to automatically log me in at startup. None of that password or PIN stuff.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
    Motherboard
    MSI B550-A Pro
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 6600XT with 8GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Realtek integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Nitro 24" RG241Y 144hz refresh rate
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB NVMe SSD
    Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB SATA SSD
    Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD
    PSU
    LEPA B650 650 watt
    Case
    Enermax Coenus
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper T4 air
    Keyboard
    CM Storm Devastator
    Mouse
    E-Blue Cobra Jr.
    Internet Speed
    100mbs
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Optical Drives: LG DVD-RW and Pioneer BluRay/ DVD burner
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus ROG Zephyrus G14
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS
    Motherboard
    Asus board (GA402RK)
    Memory
    16 GB Samsung DDR5-4800
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Radeon 680M and discrete Radeon RX 6800S with 8GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek with Dolby Atmos
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Laptop screen 14" WQXGA, IPS, 120hz refresh rate
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1600
    Hard Drives
    1TB PCIe Gen 4 SSD (WD Black SN850)
    PSU
    Battery power and Asus power brick/adapter. Also has USB-C charging
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop fans in vapor chamber
    Mouse
    Touchpad and Omoton bluetooth mouse
    Keyboard
    Built in RGB backlit
    Internet Speed
    100mbps
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
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