How not to upgrade to Eleven.


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I decided to upgrade an old computer that I built in 2012 to 11. I rebuilt it from the ground up with an Asus B560 motherboard, Intel i5 10400 CPU and 8GB of DDR 4 memory. I grabbed a Windows 10 hard drive from my pile and set up the BIOS to run 11. That involved changing the TPM2 from module to firmware and changing the secure boot from other OS to Windows UEFI. I took a bootable flash drive with the 11 iso file, plugged it in and fired up the system. The iso required me to do a clean install so I chose it. When it asked for a key, I put in a key from an old windows 8 disk. Everything worked. 11 is running, the activation shows activr and I can use the computer normally. BUT IT WILL NOT DOWNLOAD UPDATES. GRRRR. Since I can't buy a new 11 I will try to get another windows 10 drive from my pile, boot it up and then run the iso file from the booted hard drive. Wish me luck. Thanks microsoft, I get none of these issues from Linux. Sorry for the rant.
 

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I decided to upgrade an old computer that I built in 2012 to 11. I rebuilt it from the ground up with an Asus B560 motherboard, Intel i5 10400 CPU and 8GB of DDR 4 memory. I grabbed a Windows 10 hard drive from my pile and set up the BIOS to run 11. That involved changing the TPM2 from module to firmware and changing the secure boot from other OS to Windows UEFI. I took a bootable flash drive with the 11 iso file, plugged it in and fired up the system. The iso required me to do a clean install so I chose it. When it asked for a key, I put in a key from an old windows 8 disk. Everything worked. 11 is running, the activation shows activr and I can use the computer normally. BUT IT WILL NOT DOWNLOAD UPDATES. GRRRR. Since I can't buy a new 11 I will try to get another windows 10 drive from my pile, boot it up and then run the iso file from the booted hard drive. Wish me luck. Thanks microsoft, I get none of these issues from Linux. Sorry for the rant.
Come off it - try installing W11 on KVM and enabling TPM on Ubuntu - it is a nightmare unless you really understand Linux which average user does not - thanks Linux, I get none of these issues with Windows - counter rant over.

If it is not downloading updates, it is probably something simple. Deleting the softwaredistribution folder in c:\windows usually kick starts updates.
 

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fmw

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Come off it - try installing W11 on KVM and enabling TPM on Ubuntu - it is a nightmare unless you really understand Linux which average user does not - thanks Linux, I get none of these issues with Windows - counter rant over.

If it is not downloading updates, it is probably something simple. Deleting the softwaredistribution folder in c:\windows usually kick starts updates.
It turned out to be an easy fix. I just pulled out another windows 8 disk and changed the key to that one. Everything is running properly and 11 is up to date. I can't imagine why I would install windows on Ubuntu but thanks. This was the fussiest windows upgrade I have ever done. Now cloning it to an SSD.
 

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Let me just take a moment to say that what I did is actually the right way to get 11 working. So i recant my thread title. I set up a second computer today. Different case and power supply and this one includes an M.2 SSD. Same stuff otherwise. 2 machines modernized.
 

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Hi there
@fmw

I can testify that to get TPM emulation (It's the IBM TPM emulator) working correctly on a Host Linux system is not a trivial task -- and if you follow the "So called easy" steps !!!! you'll end up with TPM ver 1.X and not 2.X. It's actually even harder to get the Real TPM working too. So on Linux Hosts I invariably use TPM emulation when creating VMs.

Setting up a Windows VM on KVM is IMO (assuming you are OK with with running a Linux Host OS) is no harder than using HYPER-V especially if you want decent Network communication both FROM and to the VM from the HOST and the rest of the network -- VMWare WKS / VMplayer and VBOX are much simpler on any Host - although you pay in performance.

The other main drawback in installing W11 on a Linux host as a VM is that you will certainly lose activation.

The mega foolproof simple way - especially if coming from a system that already has W10 on it is simply to create a VHDX physical file on the HDD / SSD , use dism /apply-image with the windows iso you want to install and update the boot manager, This will now give you a digital license activated W11.

Now you can fiddle around with the W11 system to copy to "Native -- non VHDX" disk, fiddle around with partition sizes, and finally backup your old W10 system to achive and delete from the main Disk.

Incidentally the VHDX method IMO is far better if you are installing on several computers -- especially if the hardware is reasonably similar - since all you would need to do is copy the vhdx file (with the installed W11 system) to the new target machine and simply update the bootloader via bcdboot. Windows is pretty good at booting on even quite dissimilar hardware and a bit of Windows update / manual driver update from previous release as explained in the last paragraph of this post will work.

If you have a large number of machines as per a workplace then sysprep is the way to do it but for home use the vhdx method is perfectly feasable for even 8 machines --Windows only needs to be installed once !!!!

Doing it this way though it will be a "Clean" W11 install which I'd recommend rather than an "Update" from W10.

Finally whatever method you choose you will probably find there are missing drivers if you go into device manager.

The Simplest way to solve that is to use the "Update driver", scan computer to install manually and point to THE OLD W10 system (A macrium image can also be used as it can be browsed in File explorer) using the directory \windows\system32\DriverStore -- ensure the include subfolders box is checked -- and update the missing drivers.

Cheers
jimbo
 
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fmw

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I promised to report on a test. The test was to set up 11 on a compatible system and then move the drive to an incompatible system. I installed 11 clean on a system with an i5 10400 system. I then moved the drive to a 10 year old computer I had with a Gigabyte motherboard with an ancient i5 that, of course, is not compatible. It worked. It worked just fine. I had some work to do to clean up old drivers and struggled to get rid of some software ASUS (maker of the compatible motherboard) had installed. I wasn't able to validate windows normally. I provided a new key, it accepted the key and then told me I didn't have a key. I went through the telephone activation rigmarole and finally got it validated. I updated 11 without issue and the system is up to date, validated and running perfectly on a 10 year old motherboard and processor. It does work.
 

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I promised to report on a test. The test was to set up 11 on a compatible system and then move the drive to an incompatible system. I installed 11 clean on a system with an i5 10400 system. I then moved the drive to a 10 year old computer I had with a Gigabyte motherboard with an ancient i5 that, of course, is not compatible. It worked. It worked just fine. I had some work to do to clean up old drivers and struggled to get rid of some software ASUS (maker of the compatible motherboard) had installed. I wasn't able to validate windows normally. I provided a new key, it accepted the key and then told me I didn't have a key. I went through the telephone activation rigmarole and finally got it validated. I updated 11 without issue and the system is up to date, validated and running perfectly on a 10 year old motherboard and processor. It does work.
That's because the hardware checks are part of the INSTALLER, not the OS. Folks keep saying that these are what Windows 11 NEEDS in order to work -- when the fact is that these are what MICROSOFT demands in order to install the OS. I have olde PCs that meet almost none of the requirements and, so far, are running Win11 without issues. So, once you have it installed, you are past the hardware checks.
 

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That's because the hardware checks are part of the INSTALLER, not the OS. Folks keep saying that these are what Windows 11 NEEDS in order to work -- when the fact is that these are what MICROSOFT demands in order to install the OS. I have olde PCs that meet almost none of the requirements and, so far, are running Win11 without issues. So, once you have it installed, you are past the hardware checks.
Then you aren't surprised by my test. I don't really like how Microsoft handled this. They should have allowed an upgrade just as they did with earlier versions of windows. They could have warned that the resulting incompatible system would be missing a few security features but, if we didn't miss the features in 10, we wouldn't really miss them in 11. They caused me to spend money I didn't need to spend and time I didn't need to give to the upgrade process. So I'm done for now. I have one system running Linux, one running 10 and a laptop running 10. All the remaining systems are up and running on 11. One thing I learned in this process is how fast the M.2 SSD's are. I put one in my own computer. Wow. I have to control myself from upgrading the other system with the new CPU and motherboard which has a perfectly adequate SATA SSD. Good lessons learned.
 

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I have simply pressed "Not Now" in Windows Update when prompted to upgrade to Windows 11.
So far, it hasn't asked me again. I guess it will eventually, but I don't think it will force me to upgrade.
 

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Then you aren't surprised by my test. I don't really like how Microsoft handled this.
Just like many other things in life, "Just because you can does not mean you should"
Win 11 might not bomb on incompatable for some time but when that day does happen many will be back crying to find fixes.
I honestly hope that time comes so I can say MS warned you not to bypass the requirements for install.
 

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Just like many other things in life, "Just because you can does not mean you should"
Win 11 might not bomb on incompatable for some time but when that day does happen many will be back crying to find fixes.
I honestly hope that time comes so I can say MS warned you not to bypass the requirements for install.
Gee thanks for the encouragement. Nice of you to wish me well. If that day comes then I'll put a Windows 10 drive in it. Or maybe even Windows 7, In the meantime it is a backup computer stored in a closet. By the way, Microsoft did not warn me about anything.
 

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By the way, Microsoft did not warn me about anything.
The following disclaimer applies if you install Windows 11 on a device that doesn't meet the minimum system requirements:


This PC doesn't meet the minimum system requirements for running Windows 11 - these requirements help ensure a more reliable and higher quality experience. Installing Windows 11 on this PC is not recommended and may result in compatibility issues. If you proceed with installing Windows 11, your PC will no longer be supported and won't be entitled to receive updates. Damages to your PC due to lack of compatibility aren't covered under the manufacturer warranty.
 

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Gee thanks for the encouragement. Nice of you to wish me well. If that day comes then I'll put a Windows 10 drive in it. Or maybe even Windows 7, In the meantime it is a backup computer stored in a closet. By the way, Microsoft did not warn me about anything.
Pretty sure @Porthos was just calling it as he see's it.
Anyone that says "Microsoft did not warn me about anything" or words to that fact in reality have been playing a cat & mouse game all along.
There are NO guarantees it will stop, break or explode but from the very beginning Microsoft have always stated very clearly in their disclaimer what may happen!!!
With no major update expected for about another 6 months or so, time will tell after this major update if or when things may change.
Those that are smart will have already backed up their old Win 10 and placed it away for a rainy day.
But the majority of users I have seen opting to install Win 11 on incompatable machines spend most of their time complaining about it or spend endless hours trying it out with tweaks, addons etc to operate like Win 10 anyway :scream:
 

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The reason I saw no such message is that I installed the OS on a compliant computer. Then I moved the drive to a non compliant computer and entered a different key. I have keys coming out of my ears from using windows in many computers over the years in my business. Quite possibly I have thrown out more worn out computers than you have owned. So you are incorrect; I had no warning.

Microsoft uses the validation system to prevent using the same unit of the OS in more than one computer. I have a stack of used hard drives two feet high and every one of them has a validated windows on it. I only use a fraction of the keys I have available. It is fine for you defend Microsoft. You will be happy to know that Microsoft is way ahead of the game with me and my computers. I haven't hurt the company in any way.

I have not recommended what I did to anyone. I have only reported that it works without any issue whatsoever. I provided a single addition to the knowledge which appears to be quite well known on this forum. I don't apologize for it.

If Microsoft decides to disable 11 that is running on non compliant machines legally validated then they can do so. It would do them more harm than good. If you think 11 has some super bug that will destroy people's non compliant hardware then I would suggest the folks at Microsoft aren't that stupid. Microsoft is a very successful company and it didn't achieve its success by being stupid. Calm down. This is my computer. I built it personally ten years ago. It is running a new version of an older version of windows that was legally obtained. If Microsoft were to do what you fear, I'll replace windows with Linux. Fair enough?
 

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Pretty sure @Porthos was just calling it as he see's it.
Anyone that says "Microsoft did not warn me about anything" or words to that fact in reality have been playing a cat & mouse game all along.
There are NO guarantees it will stop, break or explode but from the very beginning Microsoft have always stated very clearly in their disclaimer what may happen!!!
With no major update expected for about another 6 months or so, time will tell after this major update if or when things may change.
Those that are smart will have already backed up their old Win 10 and placed it away for a rainy day.
But the majority of users I have seen opting to install Win 11 on incompatable machines spend most of their time complaining about it or spend endless hours trying it out with tweaks, addons etc to operate like Win 10 anyway :scream:
It sounds to me like the people who have installed 11 on non compliant computers have done it the way I did it when I started this thread. Now they know a way to do it in a trouble free way. It requires having a compliant computer and a valid unused key. It isn't for everybody. It worked perfectly for me. Calm down. I will be OK.
 

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