how to install without bitlocker key or ms account ?


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i am considering installing but i have a few questions/concerns -
if install without a ms account or bitlocker key, can i use a password manager or security key the password for ms account is stored by a password manager and is unkown to me. is there a way to use a password manager before windows install has completed.
 

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You Install as a local account then, afterwords with your password manager installed, you set your login password.

I suggest you retrieve all the drivers from the current installation. It will make much easier to install them after Win 11 installation.
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garry35 said:
i am considering installing but i have a few questions/concerns -
if install without a ms account or bitlocker key, can i use a password manager or security key the password for ms account is stored by a password manager and is unkown to me. is there a way to use a password manager before windows install has completed.
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When I install using my MS account I get a notification on the MS Authenticator app as I have setup MFA on my account as it is set to passwordless.
 

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What I've read on various sites is that Microsoft will no longer allow the first install to be a Local Account. A cheap Notebook I got in Dec. worked that way by allowing only the Microsoft Account. After that was working I added a New User as a Local Account Admin with a slightly different name [by one character]. Then I logged out of the MA [important to do that] and rebooted so as to get both log-ins on the screen. Logged into the Local and removed the MA.
 

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    Dell Vostro 3400
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Megahertz said:
You Install as a local account then, afterwords with your password manager installed, you set your login password.

I suggest you retrieve all the drivers from the current installation. It will make much easier to install them after Win 11 installation.
www.elevenforum.com

Backup and Restore Device Drivers in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to back up and restore all 3rd party device drivers on your Windows 10 and Windows 11 PC. If you clean install Windows, you will need to install drivers for each device in the system. Some of these device drivers may no longer be available from the manufacturer...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

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Turn On or Off Device Encryption in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to turn on or off device encryption on a Windows 11 PC. Device encryption is a Windows feature that enables BitLocker encryption automatically for the Operating System drive and fixed drives. It’s particularly beneficial for everyday users who want to ensure...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com
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without using a modified installer or hack installing as a local account is blocked/not allowed
 

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markw51 said:
When I install using my MS account I get a notification on the MS Authenticator app as I have setup MFA on my account as it is set to passwordless.
Click to expand...
assuming u dont have another computer or internet access how is this done
 

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