Solved How to locate Start Menu items in the file system...


mercury_1967

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... NOT the StartUP Menu, which is in \AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup - the Start Menu folder? I've been Googling for 1/2 an hour and all of my search results bring me to articles about how to find the Startup folder. I want to manually organize the Apps listed in my Start Menu. Where can I find that?

IIRC, I found a while ago that there are actually several file system locations that affect what shows up in the Start Menu, but I believe that was back in early Win 10 days, so maybe they cleaned that up.

I did find some of the Start Menu items in AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs (part of the above path), but that's not all of them by any means.
 

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There are two Start Menu folders

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\

And

AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\
 

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Thanks, @antspants , that helps.

Not sure if you (or someone else) can help me out on this next question. I may need to go to the HP forum.

I'm setting up my new HP Omen laptop and there are a bunch of HP-specific apps listed in the Start Menu that are not in either of the folders that you listed. Any idea where I could find those? I'm willing to keep most of them. I just want to put them in their own folder in the Start Menu to clean it up a bit...
 

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    12th Gen Intel i9-12900H 14 Core
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    Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060
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HP has made a pretty hard task of this unless things changed since the last time I looked.

I believe the easiest way to consolidate them would be to create a HP folder in one of the above mentioned locations and add shortcuts to the apps in that folder.

You also should be able to drag them from the Start Menu to the Desktop, cut and past them into said created folder.
Not I deal but someone else may know of a better method?
 

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    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
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    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
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    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
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    Onboard
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    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
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    Silverstone 1500
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    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
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    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
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    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
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    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
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    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
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    M.2 512GB
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I may be remembering that wrong.

As they are “Apps” there is a non conventional method. There are members in here way more versed on “Apps” than me.

For instance:

 

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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
... there are a bunch of HP-specific apps listed in the Start Menu that are not in either of the folders that you listed. Any idea where I could find those? I'm willing to keep most of them. I just want to put them in their own folder in the Start Menu to clean it up a bit...
The HP-specific ones are probably in shell:appsfolder but you won't be able to organize them as they are probably UWP apps..., creating shortcuts for them and putting them in a folder will just double the mess.
 

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  • OS
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
And...,
they'll probably end up icon-less!

View attachment 96567
LOL

They are indeed in shell:appsfolder. I guess I'm stuck with them that way if I want to keep them. But as this is a new computer, I still have yet to explore some of them to see if they are useful to me. (As we all know, manufacturer bloatware is usually best discarded - although I did find a number of the Lenovo-included apps on my old laptop quite useful.)

Thanks, @Edwin.
 

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    HP Omen
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    12th Gen Intel i9-12900H 14 Core
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060
    Screen Resolution
    4k
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD
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    Logitech G502 Hero
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    Webroot
As you can see, the bottom 5 UWP/System apps, I can do nothing about!
The rest, by various naming conventions, can be compressed into one neat group.

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    ASUS VivoBook
They are indeed in shell:appsfolder. I guess I'm stuck with them that way if I want to keep them

Now that you have found them in shell:appsfolder, you can right-click on them there & create shortcuts that you will be able to organise as you want.
The original Start menu entries will remain in place.


Denis
 

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