Hyper-V Windows 11 Home - Risk?


There are certainly many situations where a particular hypervisor, or at least type of hypervisor is going to make a huge performance difference. However, if you are just experimenting with some other OS's, or trying out a test, or proving a theory, I've found that 9 times out of 10, a VM under pretty much any solution is sufficient to get the job done. If it's not, then you probably have very specific requirements that you already are aware of and would use a more suitable solution.

I'd try virtualbox and see if it works satisfactorily for you. If it does, why bother spending more money with MS on a license for the Pro version of Windows for features you may or may not really need.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.
There are certainly many situations where a particular hypervisor, or at least type of hypervisor is going to make a huge performance difference. However, if you are just experimenting with some other OS's, or trying out a test, or proving a theory, I've found that 9 times out of 10, a VM under pretty much any solution is sufficient to get the job done. If it's not, then you probably have very specific requirements that you already are aware of and would use a more suitable solution.

I'd try virtualbox and see if it works satisfactorily for you. If it does, why bother spending more money with MS on a license for the Pro version of Windows for features you may or may not really need.
Fair statements.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
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    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
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    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
Well I have an Intel system and Hyper-V surely performs better by a mile.
Yes Hyper-V performs well on all systems..no questions about that.

Re. operating mode for vb, I admit I have no idea but a user should not really even have to select different modes.

It is certainly not something obvious - perhaps you could kindly tell me (us) what the mode differences are and how to select them, and I (we) can try them (for me on an Intel device).
When you run VB, you can check the logs, which method it used. Here they are in performance order.

HM = VT-x/AMD-V -> full acceleration
NEM = Native Emulation -> uses MS hypervisor platform
CPUM = Emulation of CPU -> very slow

It is not obvious which one will be used until you check the logs. There is also a lot of descrepancy between VB versions. If you had WSL installed it is likely using NEM or CPUM. there is also huge difference between Windows, Linux and MacOS host, but that is irrelevant in this case since OP uses Windows. But Windows is often the slowest for some reason.

And YES a type 1 HV is always faster than type 2 but the difference can be very small...
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung Galaxy Book Odyssey
    CPU
    Intel Core Intel i7-11600H
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 3200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 3050 Ti
    Screen Resolution
    Full HD
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990PRO
Yes there is, but VMWare Workstation Player is very limited in what you can do, though it performs well. Thus many don't even bother to mention it. Pro version on the other hand is brilliant.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
For a Windows host HYPER-V runs better (by far) than VMWare - wks or player - and definitely better than Oracle's vbox. There are limitations though in using HYPER-V such as dynamic re-direction of usb devices and some have reported getting audio to work on a Linux VM. Also Hyper-V is a bit "splodgy" if you want to run older OS'es such as XP / Win2000 / Win 98.

On a Linux Host KVM/QEMU performs far better than VMWare / Vbox running any sort of Guests.

Networking sometimes is easier to set up with Vmware than in Hyper-V especially for Host / Guest communication but whether on Hyper-V or KVM/QEMU one can usually get networking fixed with a bit of fiddling with the config files.

(I've all INTEL systems and performance whether on Linux or Windows hosts is fine using HYPER-V or KVM/QEMU).

I still run XP as a VM as I have some software and hardware that cuts Vinyl discs from your own music, and a professional level minidisc recording machine (those didn't have all that DRM stuff that the domestic models had which was the main downfall of minidiscs compared to CD's which could be copied without issues).

I also have a 35 mm negative scanner (runs on XP) and an HP engineering plotter - also needs XP to run.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Yes there is, but VMWare Workstation Player is very limited in what you can do, though it performs well. Thus many don't even bother to mention it. Pro version on the other hand is brilliant.
There are some features in the "Free version" that are hidden in that you can only get at those by editing the config files manually (the vmx file is an xml file - use any text editor or even a browser to edit those) -- e.g boot to firmware (you have to edit the file each time you want to boot from the firmware as it only works once before "disabling it again" and for connecting physical discs.


For boot to firmware :

bios.forceSetupOnce = "TRUE"

note you need todo this before every boot that you want to start in the firmware -- e.g to change boot disk etc.

For adding delay to the boot startup -- sometimes on a fast machine you don't get a chance to hit any key when an iso boot wants you to press a key to continue.

bios.bootDelay = "xxxx" (xxxx in millisecs)

Cheers
jimbo
 
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System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Also Hyper-V is a bit "splodgy" if you want to run older OS'es such as XP / Win2000 / Win 98.
I have an XP VM in Hyper-V, seems to run OK. I don't know about 2000, and I don't think Hyper-V can even run that last one, Windows '98. Hyper-V certainly can't run Windows '95 (I know, I've tried) and Windows for Workgroups 3.11 is a definite non-starter. Both of those I can run (and use on my network) with VirtualBox.

You seem to talk a lot about Vbox., but what about VMware, there is free version too. You guys don't like it?
@cereberus , @SlicEnDicE , @pparks1 , @Bree

For me the deciding factor is that Macrium's viBoot only supports using Hyper-V or VirtualBox to run a Macrium Reflect image as a virtual machine.

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
In Hyper-V
Yes by trial-and-error we know pretty much what runs and doesn't.
Win 9x, all the same, no go.
I have an XP VM in Hyper-V, seems to run OK. I don't know about 2000, and I don't think Hyper-V can even run that last one, Windows '98.
XP: runs well indeed. SP3 tested.
Win 2000: runs surprisingly well, SP4 tested.
Win 98: nope, he's dead Jim.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC
    CPU
    i3 8109U
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 @2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
    Sound Card
    Intel / Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG-32ML600M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel SSD 250GB + Samsung QVO SSD 1TB
    PSU
    Adapter
    Cooling
    The usual NUC airflow
    Keyboard
    Logitech Orion G610
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Rival 100 Red
    Internet Speed
    Good enough
    Browser
    Chromium, Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    CentOS 9 Stream / Alma / Rocky / Fedora
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    TOSHIBA
    CPU
    Intel i7 4800MQ
    Motherboard
    TOSHIBA
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 @1600
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K2100M
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Built-in
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
I dont care for hyper V. I exclusively use vmware workstation player free and its awesome. I recommended it over anything else. It has better performance in graphics and games etc. vs the others I have tried so I stick with it. It is really easy to use and has some really nice features. I like how it handles usb devices as well, and I just in general find it more reliable.

But thats my personal opinion.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell G15 5525
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 6800H
    Memory
    32 GB DDR5 4800mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3050 4GB Vram
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2TB Solidigm™ P41 Plus nvme
    Internet Speed
    800mbps down, 20 up
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ideapad flex 14API 2 in 1
    CPU
    Ryzen 5 3500u
    Motherboard
    LENOVO LNVNB161216 (FP5)
    Memory
    12GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics
    Hard Drives
    256 GB Samsung ssd nvme
Yeah it helps a lot that you can assign up to 2GB of graphics memory to VMWare VMs and you get that 3D acceleration.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
You seem to talk a lot about Vbox., but what about VMware, there is free version too. You guys don't like it?
@cereberus , @SlicEnDicE , @pparks1 , @Bree

VMware is great as well. I use vSphere at work. At a previous employer who paid for VMWare Workstation for me, I used that product a lot then. When I moved on from that job, i couldn't really justify the cost of VMWare Workstation for myself...and I started using Virtual Box and it worked great for what I needed to do. I felt that VBox had more features than the free VMWare player application, so I just continued to use it.

I made the switch over to Hyper-V as I was utilizing WSL and needed Docker Desktop and those both required the use of Hyper-V components on the box which interfered with Vbox..... Since I pay for the Pro version of Windows, it just kinda makes sense to use the pro features like Hyper-V. I don't think it works nearly as well with the Linux distros as Vbox did, it works well enough for me to get the job done.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.
I decided to use VMware. I used to used back on university, for development. I always preferred to have a separate environment. Development sometimes implies on installing a lot of things on the pc, so I wanted to keep my laptop "clean".
So far it is working fine, but If I see I need more performance, I will pay the Windows Pro and try Hyper V.
Thank you all for the responses!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung Galaxy Book Odyssey
    CPU
    Intel Core Intel i7-11600H
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 3200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 3050 Ti
    Screen Resolution
    Full HD
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990PRO

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