I Bought An Old Computer For 10$!!


I have Win 10 Pro 32 bit on it now but still toying with Linux distros in VM.
I have been fiddling with Zorin for the past while on a VM. I like it as it looks a lot like Windows and is pretty easy to use for a Linux hater like me. I'm going to be setting up a second Zorin based machine with a KVM for work at home.

One thing about it is that it is not resource heavy, or at least doesn't seem to be. I have tested it on an old AMD Athlon X2 6000+ and it ran, amazingly enough.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build
    CPU
    Ryzen 5800X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite Wifi
    Memory
    32 GB GSkill Trident Neo
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung 32 inch curved - one 4K, one 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    4K, 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
    PSU
    EVGA 1000Q
    Case
    Rosewill something or other
    Cooling
    Corsair 100i 240 mm, Noctua fans. A whole schwak of case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech G815
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    700 up, 600 down
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes
Our county e-recycling is first Saturday AM every month. Years ago if I saw a good machine they would let me take it. Now they don’t allow that supposedly for privacy concerns what may be on the HDD. Recently I replaced an AMD Laptop with Win10 and Office2021. It worked great but had a crack in the case. Could not find a home for it so I gave it to the Salvation Army thrift store who accepted it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    2023 HP Pavilion 15t-eg200
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-3200 SDRAM (2 x 8 GB); 512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
    Screen Resolution
    1910x1080
I have been fiddling with Zorin for the past while on a VM. I like it as it looks a lot like Windows and is pretty easy to use for a Linux hater like me. I'm going to be setting up a second Zorin based machine with a KVM for work at home.

One thing about it is that it is not resource heavy, or at least doesn't seem to be. I have tested it on an old AMD Athlon X2 6000+ and it ran, amazingly enough.
You should look at EndeavorOS
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    2023 HP Pavilion 15t-eg200
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-3200 SDRAM (2 x 8 GB); 512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
    Screen Resolution
    1910x1080
i wouldn't even put linux on that.. need a bit more power... ddr3 and a 3ghz cpu, etc... ddr2 is just way too old for new stuff. IMHO. You can use the case...
Naw, Linux Mint runs on DDR2 just fine for standard stuff. I've also a Dell Inspiron 530 that runs Win 10 32 bit just fine on DDR2. Definitely not a gaming rig but it's great for e-mail and text files etc. I can even watch videos on it. I'd take that machine over a Chrome Book any day of the week. It might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but it still has its uses.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
Too many numbers, give me hives! My only question with an OLD PC of any style is, "Does it run?" If the answer is YES, then it's something I can work with. If it has a real 64 bit cpu, I'll try Windows 11 (fully Rufusized) on it. And if it's 32 bit only, it gets Windows 10/Pro/32, (again, fully Rufusized) Then it gets my patented (not) PC Tune-Up, which can greatly improve how any PC runs.

When I get done with a "Hand me down" or some dumpster food, more often than not, I've got a good running little PC. In fact, I've got a house full of them. Out of 12 PC's/Laptops, two I built myself, and one (Netbook) I bought, the rest are all foundlings.

I have one real problem with giving away a PC. Then I'm expected to maintain it, teach someone how to use it, etc. etc, etc.
So I just keep what people give to me. Sorry about that!

TM :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-11/Pro/64 22H2 22621.963
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Made w/Gigabyte mobo/DX-10
    CPU
    AMD FX 6350 Six Core
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte, DX-10
    Memory
    Crucial, 16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard, ATI Radeon HD 3000
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
    Hard Drives
    Crucial SSD 500GB
    PSU
    Antec Earthwatts 650
    Case
    Pac Man, Mid Tower
    Cooling
    AMD/OEM
    Keyboard
    101 key, Backlit/ Mechanical Switches/
    Mouse
    Logitech USB Wireless M185
    Internet Speed
    Hughes Net speed varies with the weather
    Browser
    Firefox 64x
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Super Anti Spyware
    Other Info
    Given to me as DEAD, and irreparable.
    Rebuilt with Gigabyte mobo, AMD cpu, 16GB ram and 500GB Crucial SSD.
Too many numbers, give me hives! My only question with an OLD PC of any style is, "Does it run?" If the answer is YES, then it's something I can work with. If it has a real 64 bit cpu, I'll try Windows 11 (fully Rufusized) on it. And if it's 32 bit only, it gets Windows 10/Pro/32, (again, fully Rufusized) Then it gets my patented (not) PC Tune-Up, which can greatly improve how any PC runs.

When I get done with a "Hand me down" or some dumpster food, more often than not, I've got a good running little PC. In fact, I've got a house full of them. Out of 12 PC's/Laptops, two I built myself, and one (Netbook) I bought, the rest are all foundlings.

I have one real problem with giving away a PC. Then I'm expected to maintain it, teach someone how to use it, etc. etc, etc.
So I just keep what people give to me. Sorry about that!

TM :cool:
Bah! You old hoarder, you! C'mon... Give it away. You know you'll only get more if you do. Besides, you got it all wrong. . . You don't keep servicing the stuff you give away. No, no, no. You make them figure it out, you pass on the trade, show them the tricks and share the magic like a good Wizard. lol :winkt:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
Hi there

I did even better -- Got an old HP microserver Proliant Gen 8 16 GB RAM with 4 bay disk and DVD with dual XEON fitted -- I changed the old DVD for an SSD via power converter (molex cables) and added a half height GPU. It's got two LAN slots and internal video but I use the GPU as it's got sound via HDMI.

The thing cost me zilch - an office was chuckingit out and said I could have it if I could take it home

Worked as a reliable NAS server for about 7 years now !!! running Arch Linux and a few W11 VMs.

The only thing was one couldn't boot from the DVD port unless you used the hideous HP hardware RAID system so I switched to standard AHCI and installed the boot loader on an internal micro SD card. I don't boot the thing up very often so the micro sd card is robust enough for a small Linux /boot partition.

Populated the 4 bay disk with my own HDDs (around 28 TB storage - and its just fine. It sits up in a closet and runs headless most of the time - when I need to access it I just SSH to it.

For a home NAS server you don't need anything mega fast !! and being a server it is designed to run 24/7 too unlike a load of domestic consumer computers.

cheers
jimbo

cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Hi there

I did even better -- Got an old HP microserver Proliant Gen 8 16 GB RAM with 4 bay disk and DVD with dual XEON fitted -- I changed the old DVD for an SSD via power converter (molex cables) and added a half height GPU. It's got two LAN slots and internal video but I use the GPU as it's got sound via HDMI.
The problem I have with old server equipment is
1). It's big
2). it's noisy
3). It usually gives off plenty of heat
4). It has a sizeable impact on your electricity bill.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.
Since retiring from the 'Business', PC's are just my hobby now. The older, the better. I love taking an OLD pc or laptop and making it run better than the day if came off of the assembly line. It's what I do!!!

My Old-Old PC.jpg Years ago, I did a total refurbishment on this old PC, with custom paint job on the old front panel.
It had loads of space inside for full sized motherboard, and many HD's. Visible is the DVD drive, MultiCard reader and a floppy disk drive, and two front panel USB ports. I finally sold this PC to an old customer who needed a cheap replacement PC.
Last I knew, it's still running.

TM :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-11/Pro/64 22H2 22621.963
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Made w/Gigabyte mobo/DX-10
    CPU
    AMD FX 6350 Six Core
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte, DX-10
    Memory
    Crucial, 16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard, ATI Radeon HD 3000
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
    Hard Drives
    Crucial SSD 500GB
    PSU
    Antec Earthwatts 650
    Case
    Pac Man, Mid Tower
    Cooling
    AMD/OEM
    Keyboard
    101 key, Backlit/ Mechanical Switches/
    Mouse
    Logitech USB Wireless M185
    Internet Speed
    Hughes Net speed varies with the weather
    Browser
    Firefox 64x
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Super Anti Spyware
    Other Info
    Given to me as DEAD, and irreparable.
    Rebuilt with Gigabyte mobo, AMD cpu, 16GB ram and 500GB Crucial SSD.
The problem I have with old server equipment is
1). It's big
2). it's noisy
3). It usually gives off plenty of heat
4). It has a sizeable impact on your electricity bill.
I liken it to eating watermelon. One simply spits out the seeds.

1. Big isn't necessarily a bad thing. Bigger is often better. Easier to work with, easier to see inside, easier to access. Greater capacity to install other hardware. Better air flow. I could go on.

2. Spit out the seeds. Change the fans. There's no getting around it. Those old server fans are loud, but do you really need them? A: Usually no. At least not in a home conversion job. Few home servers are running commercial scale systems with a 100 SAS drives but not all old server hardware is noisy. We're in an age where now SATA SSDs are considered "old school" and SSDs are not nearly loud.

3. Again, not always. It really depends on what is being used and how much. Even those loud fans can generate heat of their own and they eat a lot of electricity. Converting my basement into a computer room definitely helps with my heating bill — especially during winter months so there is some benefit that way. One thing I definitely agree on is those fans. Chuck 'em or put them to a better use. They're not needed for a home server.

4. With standard SATA SSDs becoming "old school" hardware, impact on the electricity bill should be negligible. Even with a standard home server, using say 20 standard drives, the impact on one's power bill isn't astronomical. Mind, I tossed a number of modern "conveniences" like electric can openers, all my televisions, old microwaves, fridges, washing machines etc. out of my home and run with energy saving appliances so I'm biased.

Still, with what Jimbo did here, running 4 ports over 24TB of storage, in an old server unit is commendable. * Salutes Jimbo45 * I'm thinking that the bill for power would be reasonable in this case (no pun intended) and would even be diminished more as those drives are replaced with SSDs over time. Jimbo has more flexibility with this than most modern day NAS systems and he saved another device from e-waste. 🌳🌲🍀
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
Many commercial servers don't have after market low noise fan options. And some systems won't post without the required number of fans the manufacturer specified for the hardware in the box. These fans are designed to maximize air flow and cooling, not necessarily to provide low noise.

While hard drives do have higher power draws than SSD, it's typically the Xeon Processors in the box that are consuming the lions share of the power.

Nothing wrong with what was done here, i commend him too on his setup. It's just outside of the realm of what i need anymore. But admittedly, i don't have a bunch of data, media, etc.....that i am storing. Work burns me out these days, so I tinker a lot less at home these days than i used to.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.
Many commercial servers don't have after market low noise fan options. And some systems won't post without the required number of fans the manufacturer specified for the hardware in the box. These fans are designed to maximize air flow and cooling, not necessarily to provide low noise.

While hard drives do have higher power draws than SSD, it's typically the Xeon Processors in the box that are consuming the lions share of the power.

Nothing wrong with what was done here, i commend him too on his setup. It's just outside of the realm of what i need anymore. But admittedly, i don't have a bunch of data, media, etc.....that i am storing. Work burns me out these days, so I tinker a lot less at home these days than i used to.
You got me there. Sifting through these TBs of data, what family pix to keep, what videos, where to put them, how to extract them from RAW files etc. is a real headache. How does one eat an elephant? A: One byte at a time. It's a good thing I'm more patient than other people or I would have lost it by now. Chilling a Xeon isn't too hard and I rather doubt the chip would run hotter than my 6900K. I'm currently running 33 hard drives inside this beast.

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
Converting my basement into a computer room definitely helps with my heating bill — especially during winter months so there is some benefit that way.
I have to ask. How hot does it get and have you ever used it to cook dinner?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy x360 15-ds1083cl
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 2.0GHZ
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    PCIe NVMe M.2 512GB
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
To be honest it has been a while since I took a reading, but it never thermal throttles and CPU temps are in the 40's. Still with all the PCs we run in the computer room the room temperature does go up a couple of degrees compared to upstairs. No joke. I recently installed another hard drive enclosure inside but I have a large fan in front of the sledded drives that pushes air through those and yet another fan following after that blasts air through the enclosure, sort of positioned the way the fans are placed in a Noctua NHD15, shot gun style. I tested the enclosure without a fan and that metal enclosure absorbed heat real fast. It got so hot I couldn't keep my hand on it. Inside the case with the fans running I can keep my hand on the enclosure indefinitely. The case also has a huge intake fan on the side door that allows me to direct the air flow directly to the HBA cards and the video card. In addition to this there is another huge exhaust fan on top of the case that helps with circulation. These are not standard sized PC fans. They are huge, 200 mm fans and the case employs three of them; because they're large they can run at low R.P.M. and will still move large volumes of air, making them both quiet and efficient at the same time. I get the benefits of a server without the noisy server fans. :wink:

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
The problem I have with old server equipment is
1). It's big
2). it's noisy
3). It usually gives off plenty of heat
4). It has a sizeable impact on your electricity bill.
The one I got :
Microserver so its tiny - just a bit bigger than a 4 bay external disk enclosure !!!
Not noisy at all
Heat is manageable -- 2 X XEON processors do use more power than modern CPU's

Power costs here minimal -- unlimited geothermal and hydro electricity -- no need for mega amounts of Russian / Norwegian gas imports or Qatar LPG stuff. !!!

Servers are excellent if you want things running headless 24/7 - they are built for continuous operation, and if you can store them away from your work bench. Robust for Internet gateways, Proxy servers, web site admin, system / data backup, Virtual desktop infrastructure provisioning, media and file serving etc etc. as you probably know only too well. Visitors to my place go through my own proxy server on the Linux NAS for Internet access so I've no concern or worries if any pirated content is downloaded or accessed or other nasty malware etc.

I now only do 2 - 3 days a week on gigs so I've more time to mess around -- haven't got the energy these days or the inclination to work 5 days a week in places where some managers are young enough to be your grand kids and think they have 3,000 years experience !!!!.

cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Iceland! You people absolutely rock! Strong, independent, freedom loving individuals with enough backbone and intestinal fortitude to tell the IMF and World Bank where to stuff it. I salute you! Canada has much to learn from your example. (y)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
I liken it to eating watermelon. One simply spits out the seeds.

1. Big isn't necessarily a bad thing. Bigger is often better. Easier to work with, easier to see inside, easier to access. Greater capacity to install other hardware. Better air flow. I could go on.

2. Spit out the seeds. Change the fans. There's no getting around it. Those old server fans are loud, but do you really need them? A: Usually no. At least not in a home conversion job. Few home servers are running commercial scale systems with a 100 SAS drives but not all old server hardware is noisy. We're in an age where now SATA SSDs are considered "old school" and SSDs are not nearly loud.

3. Again, not always. It really depends on what is being used and how much. Even those loud fans can generate heat of their own and they eat a lot of electricity. Converting my basement into a computer room definitely helps with my heating bill — especially during winter months so there is some benefit that way. One thing I definitely agree on is those fans. Chuck 'em or put them to a better use. They're not needed for a home server.

4. With standard SATA SSDs becoming "old school" hardware, impact on the electricity bill should be negligible. Even with a standard home server, using say 20 standard drives, the impact on one's power bill isn't astronomical. Mind, I tossed a number of modern "conveniences" like electric can openers, all my televisions, old microwaves, fridges, washing machines etc. out of my home and run with energy saving appliances so I'm biased.

Still, with what Jimbo did here, running 4 ports over 24TB of storage, in an old server unit is commendable. * Salutes Jimbo45 * I'm thinking that the bill for power would be reasonable in this case (no pun intended) and would even be diminished more as those drives are replaced with SSDs over time. Jimbo has more flexibility with this than most modern day NAS systems and he saved another device from e-waste. 🌳🌲🍀

Hi there

I've rescued a few more from the local tip and offices -- it's actually fun to get these up and running probably better than they were when in commercial use. Because a load of data centres cloud infrastructure and server farms are here (cheap energy and 30 year contracts) many are upgrading equipment so there's always opportunities for "pickings from the table".

I now run a load of Windows 11 and 10 as well as Linux Virtual desktops" where I sometimes give courses in a local college on installing windows / Linux and using office etc. They can remotely logon to the VDI -- and so long as the class is limited to around 5 or 6 students each one gets their own VM to mess around with (the power of Ms's vhdx system !!!). I'm too old now to want to expand this any more - 5 or 6 students is fine.

I have now 5 servers of various types, probably around 150TB of "classical disk space" and 3 laptops as well as of course the 2 I have for work- 1 in use and 1 for backup if one gets lost / stolen / broken etc. Sometimes what I see is at larger airports is horrendous - watch out particularly at these airports --Rome, Barcelona, Gatwick (UK), any airport in Greece. Heathrow (UK) is surprisingly OK though --apart from dreadful queues and so is Amsterdam. Not sure these days what US airports are like with laptops.

@Scannerman

Canada has a load of good things about it too !!!

cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Hi there

I've rescued a few more from the local tip and offices -- it's actually fun to get these up and running probably better than they were when in commercial use. Because a load of data centres cloud infrastructure and server farms are here (cheap energy and 30 year contracts) many are upgrading equipment so there's always opportunities for "pickings from the table".

I now run a load of Windows 11 and 10 as well as Linux Virtual desktops" where I sometimes give courses in a local college on installing windows / Linux and using office etc. They can remotely logon to the VDI -- and so long as the class is limited to around 5 or 6 students each one gets their own VM to mess around with (the power of Ms's vhdx system !!!). I'm too old now to want to expand this any more - 5 or 6 students is fine.

I have now 5 servers of various types, probably around 150TB of "classical disk space" and 3 laptops as well as of course the 2 I have work work - 1 in use and 1 for backup if one gets lost / stolen / broken etc. Sometimes what I see is at larger airports is horrendous - watch out particularly at these airports --Rome, Barcelona, Gatwick (UK), any airport in Greece. Heathrow (UK) is surprisingly OK though --apart from dreadful queues and so is Amsterdam. Not sure these days what US airports are like with laptops.

@Scannerman

Canada has a load of good things about it too !!!

cheers
jimbo
I'm a first generation Canuck, a Baby Boomer of the Joneser Generation. I love my Country but if I were forced to leave, Iceland would be my first pick if they would have me. Iceland is so diverse in peoples, in culture, in geography, science, and industry. Even politically, they are a force to be reckoned with because their government represents a strong and industrious nation that values freedom and autonomy.

I'm in my mid 60's now and my health isn't what it used to be. I don't frequent airports anymore and I'm not up to travelling like I did when I was a younger man. I've been as far north as Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk and as far south as Houston, Texas, just off the Gulf of Mexico. I didn't get to see the Gulf because of Hurricane Katrina. My visit to Louisiana was like living in a sauna: So hot, so humid! And that was in April! When I left Calgary the flight was nearly cancelled due to snow flurries and when I stepped off the plane in Texas in my wool three-piece suit the 88° F temperature nearly made me black out. lol

I think it's great that you're running a modest server and helping others with Linux as well. Perhaps one day when I get this mess sorted out I'll be able to put Linux back on my work station again. It seems every time I install a new version of Windows it always kills my Linux drive despite being completely isolated to a separate hard drive and boot drive. Aaah well, one project at a time. 😎
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
I'm a first generation Canuck, a Baby Boomer of the Joneser Generation. I love my Country but if I were forced to leave, Iceland would be my first pick if they would have me. Iceland is so diverse in peoples, in culture, in geography, science, and industry. Even politically, they are a force to be reckoned with because their government represents a strong and industrious nation that values freedom and autonomy.

I'm in my mid 60's now and my health isn't what it used to be. I don't frequent airports anymore and I'm not up to travelling like I did when I was a younger man. I've been as far north as Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk and as far south as Houston, Texas, just off the Gulf of Mexico. I didn't get to see the Gulf because of Hurricane Katrina. My visit to Louisiana was like living in a sauna: So hot, so humid! And that was in April! When I left Calgary the flight was nearly cancelled due to snow flurries and when I stepped off the plane in Texas in my wool three-piece suit the 88° F temperature nearly made me black out. lol

I think it's great that you're running a modest server and helping others with Linux as well. Perhaps one day when I get this mess sorted out I'll be able to put Linux back on my work station again. It seems every time I install a new version of Windows it always kills my Linux drive despite being completely isolated to a separate hard drive and boot drive. Aaah well, one project at a time. 😎
Install Windows first, then Linux - and at the "Install boot loader bit" on most Linux distros enable "OS-Prober" --this will then add GRUB to the windows boot manager so on the windows boot menu (The windows one not the computers firmware menu) and then in choose operating system scroll to "Use a device" and you should see GRUB on the boot menu and you can boot Linux.

It gets a bit confusing though because if you boot GRUB (from the computers firmware menu) Grub willl have the option on it of booting Windows so you can go round in an endless boot chain !!!!

As Ms uses and is supporting Rocky Linux (fomerly based on CENTOS before CENTOS became a rolling release but now based on RHEL's enterprise server system) Windows and Linux co-operate better with each other and hopefully for those using the WSL subsystem on Windows that will improve such as making it easier to access a full LINUX GUI desktop -- it's do-able bit you have to use a load of tricks. You can often though use individual GUI linux apps though on WSL. For myself I prefer the flexibility of full blown VM's - especially on modern hardware but WSL is good if you don't want to mess around with those.

cheers
jimbo

cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
I now only do 2 - 3 days a week on gigs so I've more time to mess around -- haven't got the energy these days or the inclination to work 5 days a week in places where some managers are young enough to be your grand kids and think they have 3,000 years experience !!!!.
I can sympathize with that, reading some of the articles that appear on the Widgets shows that 'youth' attitude to be prevalent in business now. I also don't have as much business in the last couple years. I attribute some of the situation to the problems, with any tech, if a product has issues and I fix it to where I would want to use it the client will want to use it but the downside is if I do fix it that good they don't have to call me back.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 2TB WDC HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
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