I rarely use incremental backups any more.


I have a weekly full backup and daily differential backups as they are easier to revert to than a series of incremental backups.
Just out of curiosity, how is that any easier? You point to the backup you want to restore and that's it regardless of whether that backup is full, differential, or incremental.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Kamrui Mini PC, Model CK10
    CPU
    Intel i5-12450H
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    PSU
    120W "Brick"
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Mechanical Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
I follow the widely embraced 3-2-1 backup strategy.

3 copies of my data
2 different backup technologies
1 copy must always be offsite


I'm self-employed, work from home, and my data is vitally important to me.

Every evening I make two Macrium Reflect images on two 4TB Samsung Portable SSD's each containing 7 rotating daily images. The SSD's are only connected for the short time it takes to make an image which is currently averaging only 5 minutes. I make the images while I am working in the evening.

I work entirely from my local 1 Terabyte C: Drive and all my data and photos are kept in my OneDrive folder. I'm a Microsoft 365 subscriber which includes 1 Terabyte of OneDrive cloud storage. I have OneDrive set to mirror my local OneDrive folder, thus I always have all my work backed up throughout the day in real-time as I work. This is very important to me. I don't ever want to lose anything I'm working on.

That's it. 321. Three separate copies of my data using Two different technologies. One copy is always offsite in cloud OneDrive and updated in real-time.
My data isn't business critical but it's important to me!
My Macrium backup is just the system drive - my personal files are on a separate SSD. This contains my OneDrive folder so anything I save gets sent to the cloud straight away

As well as the cloud save I make a files backup every 3 days using Macrium and an external drive.
On ANOTHER external drive (which is offline unless I connect it), I use the old MS SyncToy program to backup my OneDrive folder

Can never be too careful!
The best backup is the one you never need to use...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5900X 12-core
    Motherboard
    X570 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Platinum RGB 3600MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Asus ROG Strix 1000W
    Case
    Corsair D750 Airflow
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Logitech G915 X (wired)
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    900Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
@cereberus Would you consider updating your "My Computer"? I would love to see your updated laptop specs.
updated - good mid range spec - got it on Amazon Prime Day at £900 (£300 off). Overall comes out at 60th quartile on Passmark but that was dragged down by 3D graphics which I rarely use. Really it is the CPU and NVME that make it quite powerful for a laptop.

I have to make sure I run it on a stand for ventialtion as it can get quite hot otherwise.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
For me, the key to drive imaging was properly organizing my hard drive in the first place.

Instead of putting everything on my "C:\" drive, I put Windows (which over the years has been occasionally screwed up by some errant driver, OEM update or virus) as well as Linux (which almost never fails to boot) on one physical NVMe drive separate from the 50 or so programs and hundreds of documents I have on a second drive on my PC. I image the OS drive once a week (about 8GB in size). This makes it far less likely that I will loose documents, videos or other data. In addition, imaging the OS and restoring it is far faster than also backing it up with a bunch of apps like Microsoft Office (which can be as much as 2GB on its own) and other space hogging programs that hardly change at all from day to day and are not likely to get corrupted by an errant driver or computer virus.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux & Windows 11 DUAL BOOT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
A DATA point if interested... the test I ran recently (last week for another thread elsewhere), had a 49.9gB OS partition full image on REFLECT (25.3-sec) and HASLEO (27.2-sec) run at MEDIUM compression... the HIGH compression was almost identical (1-sec difference at about 24-sec). This was done on a 10th gen i7 running 16-threads, runnning from different SOURCE and TARGET NvMEs.
I really cannot emulate such results (on a proportional basis) for Hasleo.

13th Gen i9 on laptop powered.

50 GB to backup.

MRH - 1 min 02 secs (medium compression, high speed)
Aoemi - 1 min 17 secs (medium compression, high speed
Hasleo - 2 mins 24 secs (medium compression).

I could not find a high speed option for Hasleo.

I also find high compression mode hardly makes any difference.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
updated - good mid range spec - got it on Amazon Prime Day at £900 (£300 off). Overall comes out at 60th quartile on Passmark but that was dragged down by 3D graphics which I rarely use. Really it is the CPU and NVME that make it quite powerful for a laptop.

I have to make sure I run it on a stand for ventialtion as it can get quite hot otherwise.
You've got very noticeable power under the hood. Gotta love it!

I see your ASUS Zenbook 14 has the dedicated CoPilot key. So does my Dell XPS 16. When I ordered it, I was wishing I could configure it without that key, but now that I have it, I find that I'm using it all the time. It beats using Google/Bing and then searching through the results by a country mile!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 9640
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 185H 45W
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 7467 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Internet Speed
    960 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Macrium Reflect subscription
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    LastPass Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    CoPilot
You've got very noticeable power under the hood. Gotta love it!

I see your ASUS Zenbook 14 has the dedicated CoPilot key. So does my Dell XPS 16. When I ordered it, I was wishing I could configure it without that key, but now that I have it, I find that I'm using it all the time. It beats using Google/Bing and then searching through the results by a country mile!
Not my Zenbook - probably why it had a good discount to get rid of older stock. Not interested in copilot.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
I really cannot emulate such results (on a proportional basis) for Hasleo.

13th Gen i9 on laptop powered.

50 GB to backup.

MRH - 1 min 02 secs (medium compression, high speed)
Aoemi - 1 min 17 secs (medium compression, high speed
Hasleo - 2 mins 24 secs (medium compression).

I could not find a high speed option for Hasleo.

I also find high compression mode hardly makes any difference.

@cereberus - you should run that Hasleo test again, and while it's running, fire up TASK MANAGER and look at that single disk (if both SOURCE and TARGET partitions are on it)... you may see the "Active Time" graph near saturation.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10, Windows 11, Ubuntu Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z2 G5 Workstation
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700
    Motherboard
    HP Model# 8751
    Memory
    32gB (DDR4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek basic audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD (Viewsonic)
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    (3) NvME SSDs - PCiE v3, (1) SATA3 SSD
@cereberus - you should run that Hasleo test again, and while it's running, fire up TASK MANAGER and look at that single disk (if both SOURCE and TARGET partitions are on it)... you may see the "Active Time" graph near saturation.
How does that help? Can I influence it?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
No influence. If your "Active Time" on that disk was near 100%, that's why your backup time was so slow with Hasleo. Hasleo will grab every core (E or P) and every available thread when it runs, with an i9, this may really saturate your disk queue and cause it to slow down.

I don't think REFLECT will attack your processor in the same way...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10, Windows 11, Ubuntu Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z2 G5 Workstation
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700
    Motherboard
    HP Model# 8751
    Memory
    32gB (DDR4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek basic audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD (Viewsonic)
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    (3) NvME SSDs - PCiE v3, (1) SATA3 SSD
For me, these days it would be pictures, videos, documents that I have created as well as any licensed software and associated keys. Years ago, it would have also included things like email, bookmarks and music.

I don't backup daily, I backup every couple of months. My data is mostly on OneDrive these days, so it's on my PC as well as in the cloud. My email is all in Gmail. My music is all pretty much in Amazon Music, and my bookmarks are all in my Google account. All of my pics and videos from my phone always goes to OneDrive directly, so if my phone is lost, stolen, damaged or misplaced, I don't lose anything.

I've never actually had to restore my actual workstation from a backup. I have however restored test machines that i use exclusively to test different scenarios, operating systems, etc.
Its perhaps a use of system type thing, I don't have anything on here that i couldn't live without, No pictures etc or music, mainly on my handset for that, Mainly games movies etc etc on the pc. Might just be i have no use for it as nothing is valuable, Guess its different for others!

FYI i understand why people back up for sure, i just never understood the daily or everytime a program is installed lets do a full backup type thing, Guess if you're installing some dodgy programs or a sheer volume of normal ones then i kinda get it but still. Cant remember the last time i installed a program and required a backup and im not that anal about it, i know whats safe and what isn't.
Yes things like windows updates can crap some beds for sure so if on insider path then i guess thats plus 1 for backup for sure.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    10700k@5.2
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Gaming X Z490
    Memory
    Viper Steelseries 32gb@ 3600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte 2070 Super 8GB, +200 core + 600 memory
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 4k HDR, Two 1080p Benq and Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160/2560x1440/1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Adata XPG SX8200 PRO 1tb
    Samsung EVO 870 500GB
    PSU
    Corsair RX 650
    Case
    NZXT h510
    Cooling
    CM HYPER 212 RGB
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata Chroma
    Mouse
    Steelseries Rival 710
Since I upgraded my laptop, it full backs up my OS + apps C drive (around 50 GB) in 1 minute to my NVME drive using Macrium Reflect Home.

I find incrementals now save hardly any time anymore, so I have pretty much stopped using them.

I only do full backups.

I have lost my interest in differentials and incrementals, because on my i7 9th gen, my MRH imaging times are insignificant for full images from NVMe to NVMe. I have nothing but Windows and Google Chrome on my C: (well, and the small stuff that various apps dump into the User folder; nothing I can do about that), all my programs (@35) and data (insignificant) on D:, and C: and D: are on the same NVMe. The backup target is a separate NVMe internal, and I periodically copy the older images from that internal to an external, connected by USB and disconnected when the copies are made and checked. Then I wipe the older (copied) images from the internal storage disk. Here's what my loggged times look like for recent full images, made and verified:

Clipboard 02.jpg
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Pro 24H2 26100.2033
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
    CPU
    i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GBDDR4 @ 2666MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG E2442
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB NVMe SSD, 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    250GB NVMe SSD (OS and programs), 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    500GB NVMe SSD (Data)
    Case
    Lenovo SFF
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
    Mouse
    LogiTech M510 wireless
    Internet Speed
    Fast (for fixed wireless!)
    Browser
    Chrome, sometimes Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium & Defender (working together beautifully!)
  • Operating System
    11 Pro 24H2 26100.2033
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
    CPU
    i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 @ 2600MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG FULL HD (1920x1080@59Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS NVMe; 1 x Samsung 980 NVMe SSD
    Case
    Lenovo Think Centre SFF
    Mouse
    LogiTech M510 wireless
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
    Internet Speed
    Fast (for fixed wireless!)
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium and MS Defender, beautiful together
No influence. If your "Active Time" on that disk was near 100%, that's why your backup time was so slow with Hasleo. Hasleo will grab every core (E or P) and every available thread when it runs, with an i9, this may really saturate your disk queue and cause it to slow down.

I don't think REFLECT will attack your processor in the same way...
My Hasleo active time was around 40% and fairly constant between 35 to 45% and was writing at around 250 MB/S.

MRH clocked in at around 75% and was writing at around 500 MB/S.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Just out of curiosity, how is that any easier? You point to the backup you want to restore and that's it regardless of whether that backup is full, differential, or incremental.
hsehestedt,
If i understand it correctly a differential backup is slower to take but faster to restore.
The incremental backup is faster to take but there are more steps to restore.
Both work well in Macrium thankfully.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    N/A
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600x
    Motherboard
    ASUS Crosshair Viii Hero Wi Fi
    Memory
    32 Gb DDR4 3600MHz GSkill
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia Geforce 950
    Sound Card
    USB Out NAD M51 DAC with Adams A8 powered speakers
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Black SSD SN770 1TB
    Samsung EVO SSD 970 1TB
    PSU
    Fractal Design 1000W
    Case
    CoolerMaster ATCS 840
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12S Chromax
    Keyboard
    Razer Huntsman V2
    Mouse
    Razer Viper Ultimate
    Internet Speed
    Starlink 94Mbps down 20Mbps up
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    ESET
My Hasleo active time was around 40% and fairly constant between 35 to 45% and was writing at around 250 MB/S.

MRH clocked in at around 75% and was writing at around 500 MB/S.
There's definitely something unusual about your hardware configuration. When I do a FULL Hasleo OS partition backup (appx. 50gB), the read speed on the OS disk runs 1.3-1.5gB/s and the "Active Time" on the disk is about 75-85%... this with the SOURCE & TARGET disks separate and each being PCiE v3 at about a max rate of 3.4gB/sec.

I have no idea why Hasleo would be that slow (250mB/s) on your System.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10, Windows 11, Ubuntu Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z2 G5 Workstation
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700
    Motherboard
    HP Model# 8751
    Memory
    32gB (DDR4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek basic audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD (Viewsonic)
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    (3) NvME SSDs - PCiE v3, (1) SATA3 SSD
There's definitely something unusual about your hardware configuration. When I do a FULL Hasleo OS partition backup (appx. 50gB), the read speed on the OS disk runs 1.3-1.5gB/s and the "Active Time" on the disk is about 75-85%... this with the SOURCE & TARGET disks separate and each being PCiE v3 at about a max rate of 3.4gB/sec.

I have no idea why Hasleo would be that slow (250mB/s) on your System.
Thanks anyway.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
There's definitely something unusual about your hardware configuration. When I do a FULL Hasleo OS partition backup (appx. 50gB), the read speed on the OS disk runs 1.3-1.5gB/s and the "Active Time" on the disk is about 75-85%... this with the SOURCE & TARGET disks separate and each being PCiE v3 at about a max rate of 3.4gB/sec.

I have no idea why Hasleo would be that slow (250mB/s) on your System.
This is weird - I ran Hasleo 4.9.1 on my older 11th gen i7 laptop and it took 1 min 11 secs for pretty much same backup (new laptop was clone of old one) - only difference it was from one internal nvme to 2nd internal nvme.

New 13th gen i9 laptop was from one partition to another on same drive (I do back up to external usb as well).

So maybe Hasleo does not handle backing up to same drive taking twice as long. Maybe it cannot read and write efficiently when on same physical drive?

@Froggie - is this something you can test?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Sure! When using the same physical disk, the "Active Time" for that disk in TaskMgr went way up over 95% (which is what should happen) and the disk READ bandwidth varied between 500mB/s and 1.2gB/s with the WRITE bandwidth doing the same types of things.

This is what I thought would happen if you were using the same device for SOURCE & TARGET. Also, the CPU utilization drops quite a bit as the single storage device becomes the more limiting factor.

This is not a Hasleo issue (it only knows about partitions, doesn't care where they're located). Why Macrium does a better job... no idea.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10, Windows 11, Ubuntu Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z2 G5 Workstation
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700
    Motherboard
    HP Model# 8751
    Memory
    32gB (DDR4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek basic audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD (Viewsonic)
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    (3) NvME SSDs - PCiE v3, (1) SATA3 SSD
Sure! When using the same physical disk, the "Active Time" for that disk in TaskMgr went way up over 95% (which is what should happen) and the disk READ bandwidth varied between 500mB/s and 1.2gB/s with the WRITE bandwidth doing the same types of things.

This is what I thought would happen if you were using the same device for SOURCE & TARGET. Also, the CPU utilization drops quite a bit as the single storage device becomes the more limiting factor.

This is not a Hasleo issue (it only knows about partitions, doesn't care where they're located). Why Macrium does a better job... no idea.
To really muddy the waters, MRH is slower than Hasleo on my older 2 drives laptop.

I cannot see a consistent pattern.

Sometimes Life is a Beach and then you Fry.

Edit:
Just backed to a second partition on NVME containing the OS rather than 2nd drive on older laptop and the backup took nearly twice as long as backing up to second drive.

I guess this proves Hasleo is more efficient when using two drives.

Like you I have no idea why MRH is much faster on my new laptop than Hasleo but hey I'll take the win LOL as MRH is my main tool.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Since I upgraded my laptop, it full backs up my OS + apps C drive (around 50 GB) in 1 minute to my NVME drive using Macrium Reflect Home.

I only ever keep last 3 backups to save space.

I find incrementals now save hardly any time anymore, so I have pretty much stopped using them.

For reasons I cannot fully explain, Macrium Reflect Home now backups much faster than any other package I have recently tested on new laptop (Hasleo, Aomei, Easeus) which take around 2+ minutes.

As an aside, I double checked the MRH backup was sound using Macrium Viboot.

I think the reason MRH backups are much faster is because my more powerful I9 CPU handles the MRH multithreading much better (free version does not have multi-threading). I do not know if the other packages use multi-threading.
With a decent 7200 classical 14TB "spinner" I just backup the entire Windows vhdx file to the device -- My windows whether VM or "physical" are always on vhdx files so just dumping the last 3 (My windows installs are typically around 25 - 35 GB) to this HDD i won't give me a disk space problem.

Critical data I need I just send to the cloud - in over 3 years of using some cloud facilities I've never had a problem accessing data and the chance of both Internet and the 4/5G phone system being out at the same time is just about zero -- if that happens then I suspect you'd have a lot more problems to contend with than lack of access to your data.

Most phones have sufficient size internal storage / other facilities to access cloud servers and retrieve data and send to PC if required or simply store internally. 5G speeds can be hugely faster than traditional "copper wired" provided ISP's still not on full fibre.

For local data backup / archive I use rsync as it has decent options for only backing up changed / new data which is quite useful.

BTW any Linux distro uses the full multithreading of an appropriate CPU --it's built in to the kernel rather than the application . The linux command simply just offloads the i/o requests to the kernel rather than let the application do "direct i/o" -- more secure too as a potential hacker would need to get access at privilege level to the internal kernel I/O subsystem -- not so easy.

I think Windows via dism FFU commands also will use full multi threading capability of any appropriate CPU so backups based on that if purely on Windows would be worth investigating IMO. Not sure though how that works in practice.

In any case if you choose the appropriate times to backup data I'm not really sure why the time is so important -- unless you have huge windows partitions -- one should keep the OS lean and mean and store userdata elsewhere in any case -- I've been doing that since XP days.

What though is needed on any OS is a decent "Cataloguing" system -- if anybody ever worked on the old IBM mainframe systems they had an excellent automatic "Generation data group" system where you specified how many generations you wished to keep -- say 3 -- then your next backup (vo) would cause the previous backup to become (v-1), and the old (v-1) become v(-2) and so on.

Often managing the files etc is more pain than the mechanics of doing backups in the first place - particularly with loads of music / other multi-media files.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7

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