If Macrium Reflect X is too expensive, what will you switch to?


If Macrium Reflect X is too expensive, what will you switch to?

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I will keep using 8.1 for as long as it keeps working (I have 4 'lifetime' licences). If it stops working one day then I will consider using an alternative.

Just wondering if there will be any more updates for 8.1 because there hasn't been any for ages now? Not to worry, as long as it still works I'm not bothered.

Oh, I had this pop up when I opened Reflect this morning. Sorry, not interested... like a lot of people I don't do subscription software.
 

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OnesieBackup said:
There are updates for 8.1 LTSC but not sure whether you can just install LTSC on top of 8.1 and the license will still work
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Actually LTSC gets the same updates as v8.1, but long after v8.1 gets them.

Bree said:
LTSC lags behind Home. All the bug fixes in the Feb 2025 patch for LTSC were patched for v8.1 Home back in October 2024.
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See Latest Macrium Reflect 8 updates post #1,121 for a comparison of their respective Release Notes.

CarlSD said:
Just wondering if there will be any more updates for 8.1 because there hasn't been any for ages now?
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Reflect v8.1 is now in Extended Support for one year that started with the release of Reflect X on 8th October 2024.

Extended support means updates will only be issued for "...critical security and functional bugs, and compatibility issues introduced by Windows updates". There will be no "new features" or "functionality improvements". The lack of recent updates just means there are no new security or compatibility issues that need fixing.

Macrium Product Support Policy

Macrium is pleased to offer three stages of product support. Stage 1: Current Support Stage 2: Extended Support Stage 3: Self-Service Support
www.macrium.com www.macrium.com

For comparison, Reflect v7 got just three updates in its year of extended support. So far v8.1 has had two.
 

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TomDragon said:
Hi. I was an idiot and bought a lifetime of Macrium Reflect 7 subscription. Now I am angry.

So. Is Hasleo still a good choice?
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I've been using Reflect v7 for several years and am absolutely happy with it. I'm only annoyed that I missed the possibility to upgrade to - I think - v8.1 by a few months. I tried talking to Macrium, but they basically refused to listen. I simply asked them to let me still purchase a licence for 8.1 which they surely still have in the system since that product is still supported, or they won't see a single cent from me ever again, because I'm not ever paying for subscription, and they didn't give a rubbish. So I'm sticking with v7 indefinitely until I get a feeeling I want something else.
 

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Do try Hasleo (free), it's very good and faster than Macrium 8.1.
 

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kelper said:
Do try Hasleo (free), it's very good and faster than Macrium 8.1.
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Not in my rxperience. About the same. Reflect VX os much faster though.
 

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Hasleo 5.3 is as fast as Macrium X, but each computer will be different depending on the balance of CPU, RAM and disk speed.
 

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The point is that they are both fast enough.
 

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kelper said:
Hasleo 5.3 is as fast as Macrium X, but each computer will be different depending on the balance of CPU, RAM and disk speed.
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Just checked V5.2 - I could not see V5.3 but I agree its speed is similar to Reflect VX on my pc. V5.1 was slower.

As @trevo says, they are both fast enough.

My only concern, being "New Kid on the Block" is the rate of development of Hasleo is very fast, and I have yet to get the reliability confidence level I have with many years of Macrium Reflect produce usage.

Still, I have to say it is giving all the other free products (and some paid) out there a run for their money (😄:money:).
 

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Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
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Perhaps you have to download 5.2 and it upgrades to 5.3?
 

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kelper said:
Perhaps you have to download 5.2 and it upgrades to 5.3?
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Don't know but I do not understand what it means by version 5.0 release 3 - I definitely got 5.2.

Maybe 5.0 release 3 is sort of 5.0.3?
 

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Macrium Reflect Home V8
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Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Mar 12th here!
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Macrium Reflect Home V8
Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
v5.0 is exactly that... v5.0. The .3 is nothing more than a sub-release of the 1st minor version (v5.0). The current minor version (as of yesterday) is v5.2... the sub-release # is .2.0 making the full release at this point v5.2.2.0 (file/properties/details) of the installer).
 

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The downloads offered are:-

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The setup say 5.2.

1741887276685.webp

It launches as 5.2

1741887476002.webp

Checking for updates says 5.2 is the latest.

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I found out that they use two different versioning systems!

There is version 5.1 or 5.2 and also version 5.0 R1, R2 and R3
 

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    Webroot
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I've got 3!
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I think 5.2 is slightly newer

Build March 12 2025
 

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    xfx pro 450
So Microsoft managed to kill older Macrium Reflect versions driver, basically killing perfectly working software I bought, so I really do need to find a replacement now.
I am almost sure I will go with O&O DiskImage, but before I go ahead with that, just in case, is anyone aware of anything decent that's opensource that can do the basic full and incremental backups, restoring and whatnot?
 

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