I'm looking for an alternate form for electronic access control


Steve C said:
You can't beat an airgap between a paper printout and the PC for sensitive passwords.
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The thief steals both the PC and the paper printout?
 

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The convenience of a password manager is hard to beat.
 

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I use vault created by my antivrus to store important documents.
I’m not saying it is hacker proof but it is about the best I can do at the moment.
When it comes to wifi connections, almost any hacker app you get at a mobile app store can crack their passwords.
The problem with all these alternative methods of access control is that they all still need a password & if a hacker can gain access to the password, it renders the device useless.
 

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kelper said:
The convenience of a password manager is hard to beat.
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This is where the problem comes in.
People favour convenience over security
A relative on mine had a very bad experience with banking fraud.
The hackers managed to get details of an old work & residential address that is more than 10 years old & open three bank accounts from three different banks & ran up debt of over R200 000.00
When she informed the banks that she doesn’t know anything about these bank accounts they started their investigation but couldn’t trace the criminals because everything was done online.
She has been summoned to court twice & both times she has had to inform the debt collectors that the banks have admitted that it was their fault.
 

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I can imagine that those who keep all their passwords in a little black book don't have separate and complex passwords for every site and app. It must be a pain to keep typing k5Ab785a@Ainh7*& into Amazon or email......
 

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Try3 said:
They can be traced.
Dozens arrested as specialist team targets romance fraudsters and scammers - BBCNews
This was a joint operation involving banks and the police.


Denis
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If somone can physically identify at least one person, then yes you have a place to start the investigation but in this case it's was all done on line.
They never went into a bank collect a card or sign any documents so it is a lot more difficult but I'm sure if they do eventually catch one person in the syndicate, the rest will follow.
 

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kelper said:
I can imagine that those who keep all their passwords in a little black book don't have separate and complex passwords for every site and app. It must be a pain to keep typing k5Ab785a@Ainh7*& into Amazon or email......
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Oh, that's easy to get around. twinkletwinklelittlestar. Easy to remember but write it down in the book like this: uxjomfuxjomfmjuuftubs. Doubtful that anyone finding the book will crack it and if you really are having trouble remembering the pw you already know the technique. I haven't lost my little black book ever but if I did it wouldn't be of much use to someone who finds it (even if they found it in my house).
 

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Scannerman said:
Oh, that's easy to get around. twinkletwinklelittlestar. Easy to remember but write it down in the book like this: uxjomfuxjomfmjuuftubs. Doubtful that anyone finding the book will crack it and if you really are having trouble remembering the pw you already know the technique. I haven't lost my little black book ever but if I did it wouldn't be of much use to someone who finds it (even if they found it in my house).
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I have 180 different sites with 180 passwords that must all be different and nothing duplicated. How does your easy method handle that?
 

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TraderGary said:
My 1Password vault actually is both secure and convenient. My vault uses AES 256-bit encryption. My vault is only encrypted and decrypted locally, and the encryption key never leaves my site. When I upload my vault to cloud 1Password they have an AES 256-bit encrypted vault and no key to decrypt it.
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I am glad you like it :)

TraderGary said:
I have 180 different sites with 180 passwords that must all be different and nothing duplicated. How does your easy method handle that?
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That is wild. I could never imagine having that many accounts for things.
 

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When you're a sole proprietor and have made your living entirely online for 25 years, 180 different site sources aren't improbable at all.
 

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TraderGary said:
When you're a sole proprietor and have made your living entirely online for 25 years, 180 different site sources aren't improbable at all.
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Yeah I am just saying there is no way you still need all of those accounts, so I would just go back and start deleting some.
 

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A little research gave me this:

The average person today manages roughly 120 passwords, plus about 67 work passwords, for a total of ~187 credentials.
 

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TraderGary said:
A little research gave me this:

The average person today manages roughly 120 passwords, plus about 67 work passwords, for a total of ~187 credentials.
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Oh yeah I am not saying it isn't normal for the average person, I am saying its ridiculous lol.

People need to delete accounts they do not use anymore. Job sites are notorious for that. That's why I use a email generator.
 

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andrew129260 said:
Yeah I am just saying there is no way you still need all of those accounts, so I would just go back and start deleting some.
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Obviously, you don't, but I do. :-)
 

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TraderGary said:
Obviously, you don't, but I do. :-)
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I mean I have no choice but to believe you I guess, but I doubt you log into 180 different sites every day
 

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    1 TB PCIe NVMe Gen 4 SSD
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    Black Anodized Aluminum
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andrew129260 said:
I mean I have no choice but to believe you I guess, but I doubt you log into 180 different sites every day
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month*

I guess my thing is if I dont use it in a month or two it goes away
 

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    Custom Built
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    Ryzen 7 5700 X3D
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    MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
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    64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws V
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    RTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
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    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
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    2TB Samsung nvme ssd
    4TB Western Digital nvme ssd
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    CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series™ RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    CORSAIR 3500X ARGB Mid-Tower ATX PC Case – Black
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    ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 CPU Water Cooler
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    Logitech G213
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