In Place Upgrade vs Clean Install from Windows 10


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Going to be upgrading to Windows 11 soon. On Windows 10 Pro, 22H2 (OS Build 19045.5965). Will not be changing hardware. Wondering if there are any disadvantages to using the In Place Upgrade from Win 10 to 11? I know In Place will keep data/files in place (ideally) but will the Win 11 install otherwise be the same?

How does it handle things like drivers for chipset or graphic cards? Usually I update those manually from manufacture websites, though will an In Place Upgrade essentially require a reinstall of all hardware drivers? This I don't mind, just wondering if drivers for hardware/chipset/motherboard are handled differently from a Clean Install.

For creating a system image backup, what is the best free program to use in 2025? I've read that built in utility has been depreciated on Windows 10, which is why I am looking for alternatives. I would store the image back up on an external hard drive. I can also do an entire clone of my Windows drive onto a spare SSD I have.
 

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You shouldn't need to worry about drivers with an upgrade. For one thing, Windows 10 and Windows 11 drivers are typically the same.

WD offers a free version of Acronis True Image. I don't know its limitations, other than requiring a WD drive. It may fulfill your needs.
As an alternative, Macrium Reflect Free. The company no longer supports it, but the software probably still works,
 

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Win 10 and Win 11 is basically the same with some differences on the GUI.
If you're upgrading the Ryzen 7800X3D it should be Win 11 compatible if TPM is enable and if the main drive is UEFI - GPT
I suggest you download and run WhyNotWin11 to make sure it's 100% compatible.
If everything is OK, In Place Upgrade is a good way to upgrade. Don't worried about drivers. Most Win 10 is also Win 11 and the ones that aren't will be updated.

As things can always go wrong, I suggest you do a drive backup image.
The most used application is Macrium, (now on version 9) but it now is a subscription. Macrium 8 is the best option
EaseUS todo and AOMEI backuper are also good options.
 
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How to use backup software... 1. When everything is working perfectly... make a full Windows backup. 2. Then, if something breaks... restore from the latest backup. 3. Then... try "whatever you were doing" a different way. If it still breaks Windows, then... go to step #2. 4. Repeat...
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If Windows 10 is running well, you can do an In-Place upgrade from Win 10 to Win 11.
That's how I did it.

Like so...

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It's the same as doing an In-Place upgrade on Windows 10, except you will use a Win 11 ISO instead.
 

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bobkn said:
You shouldn't need to worry about drivers with an upgrade. For one thing, Windows 10 and Windows 11 drivers are typically the same.
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The drivers are generally the same, but W11 24H2 is more restrictive about blocking old drivers with known security vulnerabilities. Some of these include ASUS Armoury Crate add-on's and Western Digital Essentials (wdcsam).

You should check to see if you have the latest drivers for the best upgrade experience.
 

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For creating a system image backup, what is the best free program to use in 2025?
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Windows System image works ok in spite of what some people here claim. Third party tools have more flexibility in some ways but they are almost always proprietary formats so less flexible there. There are plenty to choose from.

Hasleo looks good , another popular one is aomei. I quite like the imaging diskgenius can do, but there is no scheduling if that matters to you.
 

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Megahertz said:
Win 10 and Win 11 is basically the same with some differences on the GUI.
If you're upgrading the Ryzen 7800X3D it should be Win 11 compatible if TPM is enable and if the main drive is UEFI - GPT
I suggest you download and run WhyNotWin11 to make sure it's 100% compatible.
If everything is OK, In Place Upgrade is a good way to upgrade. Don't worried about drivers. Most Win 10 is also Win 11 and the ones that aren't will be updated.
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Everything looks good with the exception of TPM. I do have this disabled in the BIOS if I recall (fTPM on my motherboard). I remember I needed to disable it when upgrading motherboard BIOS. Currently using a local account with password for Win 10. Bitlocker is set to off within Win 10.

TPM.webp

I assume I will need to enable this in the BIOS to upgrade to Win 11. Though does the TPM require anything else when I try to boot up after installing Win 11? EX) I enable fTPM in the BIOS, it will smoothly install and boot into Win 11 without issues?


For the boot drive, this is what I am seeing within Windows. I assume this would be okay?

disk part.webp
 

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Flogger23m said:
Wondering if there are any disadvantages to using the In Place Upgrade from Win 10 to 11?
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No matter how "clean" and smooth running the existing system may be, always the possibility that an inplace upgrade will tip the system over the edge. And if this happens, hard to identify what caused it ... a dormant glitch that the upgrade activated, or a borked upgrade install.

User's choice

Whatever, make sure you do an image of the existing system, warts (if any) and all, before the attempted upgrade. Macrium Reflect (freeware version is still available from majorgeeks) and if you're inclined to go into tin-foil hat mode, an extra image using another option like AOMEI Backupper. Don't forget the boot usb drives for both/either options

Alternatively, swap out the existing W10 installation for a blank drive and do a clean install on that. If things go pear-shaped, the ole system can be swapped back.
 

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idgat said:
No matter how "clean" and smooth running the existing system may be, always the possibility that an inplace upgrade will tip the system over the edge. And if this happens, hard to identify what caused it ... a dormant glitch that the upgrade activated, or a borked upgrade install.

User's choice

Whatever, make sure you do an image of the existing system, warts (if any) and all, before the attempted upgrade. Macrium Reflect (freeware version is still available from majorgeeks) and if you're inclined to go into tin-foil hat mode, an extra image using another option like AOMEI Backupper. Don't forget the boot usb drives for both/either options

Alternatively, swap out the existing W10 installation for a blank drive and do a clean install on that. If things go pear-shaped, the ole system can be swapped back.
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I'm going to do a full drive clone (have a spare SSD) and make an image which I will place on an external HDD. So I have two alternative back up methods. Data files and whatnot I am backing up manually to different drives as well.

Usually I use Reflect free for clones, I'm assuming it has a good Image functionality as well? The version on majorgeeks seems to be from 2023 so I downloaded that and will keep the .exe file backed up for future installs if necessary, glad to see there is a place that still has it up for download.
 

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Assuming you have used your clones before, and they worked. But absolutely make an image of the drive.
 

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Flogger23m said:
Everything looks good with the exception of TPM. I do have this disabled in the BIOS if I recall (fTPM on my motherboard). I remember I needed to disable it when upgrading motherboard BIOS. Currently using a local account with password for Win 10. Bitlocker is set to off within Win 10.

View attachment 138178

I assume I will need to enable this in the BIOS to upgrade to Win 11. Though does the TPM require anything else when I try to boot up after installing Win 11? EX) I enable fTPM in the BIOS, it will smoothly install and boot into Win 11 without issues?
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If you enable TPM, Win Update will offer you an upgrade to Win 11. You can do an in place upgrade or wait Win Update to offer you.
Flogger23m said:
For the boot drive, this is what I am seeing within Windows. I assume this would be okay?

View attachment 138179
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The first Recovery partition is not in use and it is useless and the last Recovery partition is small. There are ways to fix (remove first recovery and enlarge the second to, at least, 800M. But that is another chapter.
 
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Megahertz said:
Win 10 and Win 11 is basically the same with some differences on the GUI.
If you're upgrading the Ryzen 7800X3D it should be Win 11 compatible if TPM is enable and if the main drive is UEFI - GPT
I suggest you download and run WhyNotWin11 to make sure it's 100% compatible.
If everything is OK, In Place Upgrade is a good way to upgrade. Don't worried about drivers. Most Win 10 is also Win 11 and the ones that aren't will be updated.

As things can always go wrong, I suggest you do a drive backup image.
The most used application is Macrium, (now on version 9) but it now is a subscription. Macrium 8 is the best option
EaseUS todo and AOMEI backuper are also good options.
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There is no Macrium 9 (similar to Windows lol). It is version X (10?).
 

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Memory
16 GB soldered
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated Intel Iris XE
Sound Card
Realtek built in
Monitor(s) Displays
laptop OLED screen
Screen Resolution
2880x1800 touchscreen
Hard Drives
1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
PSU
Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
Case
Yep, got one
Cooling
Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
Keyboard
Built in UK keybd
Mouse
Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
Internet Speed
900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
Browser
Edge
Antivirus
Defender
Other Info
TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

Macrium Reflect Home V8
Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Flogger23m said:
I'm going to do a full drive clone (have a spare SSD) and make an image which I will place on an external HDD. So I have two alternative back up methods. Data files and whatnot I am backing up manually to different drives as well.

Usually I use Reflect free for clones, I'm assuming it has a good Image functionality as well? The version on majorgeeks seems to be from 2023 so I downloaded that and will keep the .exe file backed up for future installs if necessary, glad to see there is a place that still has it up for download.
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Depending on the app you use to clone, its easy to fix the layout. I have used Macrium to clone a drive and I used the drag and drop to put the partitions on the right order and to enlarge the recovery partition.uefi-partitions.webp
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP 64 - Lubuntui5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000IG - Intel 530
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP 64 - Lubuntu
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom build
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Win 11
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    (4) -1 BX500 SSD - 256G for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Proi7-4500U 800- 3000MHz(4+4)G DDR3 1600IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Q550LF
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
    & 1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
Only clean installation of Windows. IMO.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Microsoft Windows 11 HomeIntel Core i5-13490F2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G56...GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (G...
OS
Microsoft Windows 11 Home
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
MSI MS-7D98
CPU
Intel Core i5-13490F
Motherboard
MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI
Memory
2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G560081 6400MT (32-37-37-74); 1.35V)
Graphics Card(s)
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD)
Sound Card
Bluetooth Аудио
Monitor(s) Displays
INNOCN 15K1F
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
WD_BLACK SN770 250GB
KINGSTON SNV2S1000G (ELFK0S.6)
PSU
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W
Case
CG560 - DeepCool
Cooling
ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS / 2 x 140Mm Fan - rear and top; 3 x 120Mm - front
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB TKL
Mouse
Corsair KATAR PRO XT
Internet Speed
100 Mbps
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender Antivirus
Other Info
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66553205
Megahertz said:
If you enable TPM, Win Update will offer you an upgrade to Win 11. You can do an in place upgrade or wait Win Update to offer you.
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Thanks, downloaded the Win 11 .iso. So when I'm ready, just enable it in the BIOS, I'll run the checking utility one more time and ensure it passes then install Win 11. I assume that doing that, I won't have any TPM issues upon booting into Win 11?

Megahertz said:
The first Recovery partition is not in use and it is useless a,d the last Recovery partition is small. There are ways to fix (remove first recovery and enlarge the second to, at least, 800M. But that is another chapter.
Megahertz said:
Depending on the app you use to clone, its easy to fix the layout. I have used Macrium to clone a drive and I used the drag and drop to put the partitions on the right order and to enlarge the recovery partition.View attachment 138183
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Okay will look into that. I assume EFI partition goes first, then drive C/boot, then recovery. Not seeing the MSR partition though (referring to my screen shot from above)?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10Ryzen 7800X3D32GB CorsairRTX 5070ti ASUS Prime
OS
Windows 10
Computer type
PC/Desktop
CPU
Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard
ASRock X670E PG Lightning
Memory
32GB Corsair
Graphics Card(s)
RTX 5070ti ASUS Prime
Screen Resolution
2560x1440
Hard Drives
WD SN850X 4TB (Windows/boot drive/programs), WD SN 850X 4TB (game drive), WD 6TB Black HDD (data), SK Hynix P31 2TB (other programs/games)
PSU
Seasonic 750
Cooling
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120
abactuon said:
Only clean installation of Windows. IMO.
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My thoughts too. Fresh install on a different drive. Bring your data files over as needed.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro 24H2Intel Ultra 7 155H16gbIntel Arc integrated
OS
Windows 11 Pro 24H2
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
CPU
Intel Ultra 7 155H
Memory
16gb
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Arc integrated
Hard Drives
SSD
Flogger23m said:
Thanks, downloaded the Win 11 .iso. So when I'm ready, just enable it in the BIOS, I'll run the checking utility one more time and ensure it passes then install Win 11. I assume that doing that, I won't have any TPM issues upon booting into Win 11?
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Right click on the iso and select Mount. It will create a CD/DVD virtual drive. Run Setup on it and it will begin the upgrade.
Flogger23m said:
Okay will look into that. I assume EFI partition goes first, then drive C/boot, then recovery. Not seeing the MSR partition though (referring to my screen shot from above)?
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Windows Disk Manager is very basic. For unknown reason it doesn't show the MSR partition and inform wrong about EFI used and free space.
I use a Mini Tool , that is free and I think is very good.
1751379464094.webp
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP 64 - Lubuntui5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000IG - Intel 530
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP 64 - Lubuntu
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom build
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Win 11
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    (4) -1 BX500 SSD - 256G for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Proi7-4500U 800- 3000MHz(4+4)G DDR3 1600IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Q550LF
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
    & 1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
Flogger23m said:
Usually I use Reflect free for clones, I'm assuming it has a good Image functionality as well?
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I think I've only ever used Reflect for a clone the once. I always use Reflect to make images, variously I have licences for Reflect X Home, Reflect v8.1 Home, and I use Reflect Free v8.0 on the rest of my machines.

In fact I have just set up one of my PC's to act as a fileserver running 24/7, and I've set it up with Reflect Free to do scheduled monthly Full images with daily Differentials.

Flogger23m said:
The version on majorgeeks seems to be from 2023 so I downloaded that and will keep the .exe file backed up for future installs if necessary, glad to see there is a place that still has it up for download.
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The latest (and last) version of Reflect Free was v8.0.7783 - 1st December 2023. You can in fact still download Reflect Free v8.0 direct from Macrium. They still have Reflect v7 available on their download servers too. I know from personal experience that Reflect Free still works in the latest Insider builds.

See the bottom of post #1 here for the link: Latest Macrium Reflect 8 updates
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two Other systems

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 HomeAMD Athlon Silver 3050U8GBRadeon Graphics
    OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23-R9VY
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD (from April 2026: 250GB EVO 850)
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    UPDATE - 11 April 2026: due to lid hinges starting to break up this laptop has been retired from active duty. The OS with all software and files has been migrated to my System Seven in 'Other systems' to carry on as my general purpose 'main machine'.

    I've now clean installed 25H2 and used Garlin's scripts to update Secure Boot to CA 2023 and revoke the PCA 2011 certificates. It's new role is to test secure boot issues.

    Info for 2021-2026:
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2, and 25H2 on 30th September 2025 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 25H2.

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProIntel® Core™ i5-520M8GB(integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.

    In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.
    Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package.
    In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media.
    Upgraded to 25H2 by Enablement Package.

    Also running Insider Experimental 263xx and 29xxx builds and Windows 10 as native boot .vhdx.
  • My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR was a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e (1st gen) type 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device. This has now been sold. It has been replaced by my System Eight.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 1TB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Experimental 263xx and 29xxx builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.

    My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, 1920x1080 touchscreen, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine. As its new home has an existing digital licence for Pro I've been able to upgrade the migrated OS from Home to Pro.

    My SYSTEM EIGHT is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e (5th gen) type 20LN, Celeron N4120, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, a supported device for Windows 11. Currently running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Experimental 263xx and 29xxx builds as native boot vhdx.
abactuon said:
Only clean installation of Windows. IMO.
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I normally do a clean install instead of an upgrade as it is technically the best option.
In your case, I see that Win 10 was installed a long time ago as you have an old Recovery partition as the first one.
You probably have a lot of trash all over the OS and most of them will be kept on an upgrade to Win 11.
If you clean install win 11 with same version (Home or Pro) that you have under Win 10 it will activate
Think about.
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP 64 - Lubuntui5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000IG - Intel 530
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP 64 - Lubuntu
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom build
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Win 11
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    (4) -1 BX500 SSD - 256G for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Proi7-4500U 800- 3000MHz(4+4)G DDR3 1600IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Q550LF
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
    & 1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
I'm a big fan of a clean install. I know, folks say it's more work, and they're quite possibly right. However, in many cases, a clean install will also allow you to leave behind a ton of baggage you no longer use. I shrunk my boot partition from well over 200GB to around 150GB by just installing the stuff I'm currently using. It's amazing how much junk you accumulate over time, there were tons of applications that I never use now. I'll admit, I have a few bumps along the road with every clean install, but those are a lot easier to smooth out than dealing with all the extra baggage.
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two Other systems

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9278Intel Core i5 14500, 14th Generation64GB DDR4GeForce RTX 4060
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9278
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500, 14th Generation
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear & Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440 & 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD secondary backup
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168Intel Core i5 1440032GB DDR5Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD secondary backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Nimo N171 17" Laptop, (Intel i3-1215U, 16GB RAM, 2TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    Acemagic Vista Mini PC V1 (Intel N150, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    HP ENVY h8-1540t, (24GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 2TB HDD, Win11 Pro)
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