Solved Installing windows 10 on a win 11 pre installed laptop


moob said:
folder thumbnails, is not Subjective, is real.

windows 10 offers this possibility and windows 11 does not. Is real.
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Yes while that is you don't like that and that's the subjective bit. Others like me see that and don't care. 🤷‍♂️
 

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    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3566
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    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
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BunnyJ said:
Yes while that is you don't like that and that's the subjective bit. Others like me see that and don't care. 🤷‍♂️
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yeahhh, but we are not comparing tastes, but operating systems.

i like mac and linux, but i prefer to use windows because of compatibility.
 

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moob said:
yeahhh, but we are not comparing tastes, but operating systems
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You're comparing what you like in one OS vs another one. Saying 11 is 'bad' or not 'good' should be based on functionality and not the interface. Things like does software work properly.. does the OS work properly.
And in every case 11 works just as well as 10 or better.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3566
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
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    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
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    1080p
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    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
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    Zalman i3 NEO
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    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
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BunnyJ said:
You're comparing what you like in one OS vs another one. Saying 11 is 'bad' or not 'good' should be based on functionality and not the interface. Things like does software work properly.. does the OS work properly.
And in every case 11 works just as well as 10 or better.
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I agree, but I'm not the one who said that windows 11
is much better than windows 10.

when in reality it is not.
 

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moob said:
I agree, but I'm not the one who said that windows 11
is much better than windows 10.
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Ok.. but you have to admit that based on performance and functionality 11 is as good as 10.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3566
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
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    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
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    1080p
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    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
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    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
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    Zalman i3 NEO
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    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
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    Corsair
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BunnyJ said:
Ok.. but you have to admit that based on performance and functionality 11 is as good as 10.
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yes, it depends on the hardware of each one.

I think in the future windows 11 may be better than windows 10, but for now it is not.

For now, it still has some limitations that windows 10, does not have.
 

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this conversation is on track.. :rolleyes:

Yes, you can install 10 on the laptop. I recommend copying %systemroot%\system32\driverstore\filerepository to external media so that you can easily resinstall all drivers via device manager after installation.

win 10 has functionality that 11 does not, such as folder thumbnails, pinning to taskbar via drop, etc. Just as 10 had functionality that 7/8.1 did not. it will always be the case with new OS. some features are deprecated and some new are added. he is correct in stating that said changes are real. whether or not people care about said changes is subjective. there; solved.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
As already mentioned, it should be straightforward and cost free to revert to W10, and also just as easy in the future to change your mind and go to W11.
 

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  • OS
    W11 pro beta
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    home built
    CPU
    Athlon 3000G
    Motherboard
    Asrock A320M-HDV r4.0
    Memory
    16Gb Crucial DDR4 2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    onboard cpu
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560-1440
    Hard Drives
    WD black SN750 M2 500Gb
    PSU
    500W Seasonic core 80+gold non modular
    Case
    Fractal Design Define R2
    Cooling
    front 2 x 120mm rear 100mm stock psu
    Internet Speed
    135/20
    Browser
    Firefox and edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security and free Malwarebytes
  • Operating System
    W11 pro 64 beta (from W10 pro system builder pack)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI B450 tomahawk max II
    Memory
    4 x 8Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    onboard cpu
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    motherboard
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    LG 21.5" IPS
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    1920 x 1080
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    WD 1Tb Black M2 SN850X on Asus hyper M2 X16 max V2 card
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    140mm front, 120 rear Akasa Vegas Chroma AM
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    Browser
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Windows 11 is so superior to windows 10, that you have to use third party applications and hacks to have the same features as windows 10 that already comes by default. :win:o_O
 

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moob said:
Windows 11 is so superior to windows 10, that you have to use third party applications to have the same features as windows 10 that already comes by default. :win:o_O
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Some of us like the new features in 11.. so that makes it superior to 10.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3566
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
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    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
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    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
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    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
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Some of use both, and don't mind too much that we have to do some things differently in each. :wink:
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
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    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
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    1366x768
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    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
NavyLCDR said:
Yes. Windows 11 product keys and digital licenses will activate Windows 10 as well. Both Windows 10 and 11 use the exact same product keys and digital licenses.
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Has anybody tested this e.g. on a pc without an embedded key and no previous W10/11 installation?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
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    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
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    Stella Artois
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    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
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    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
I prefer Windows 11 over 10 and haven't found anything I did in 10 that I can't do in 11.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Book 2
    CPU
    Intel Quad-Core i7-8650U, 4.2GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060, 6GB
    Sound Card
    Dolby Atmos support for headphones
    Screen Resolution
    15-inch display, 3240 x 2160, 260 PPI.
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD 512
cereberus said:
Has anybody tested this e.g. on a pc without an embedded key and no previous W10/11 installation?
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It's impossible to test.

1. There are no product keys, yet, that any product key checking software will identify as being a Windows 11 Product key.
2. Legitimately activated Windows 11 means there is a digital license. On any Windows 11 with a digital license you can change the product key to the same generic product keys for Windows 10 and it remains activated. Re-install the same edition of Windows 10 with the same generic product key and it will activate from the same digital license.

Microsoft has already stated that Windows 10 & 11 digital licenses are interchangeable.
 
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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
NavyLCDR said:
It's impossible to test.

1. There are no product keys, yet, that any product key checking software will identify as being a Windows 11 Product key.
2. Legitimately activated Windows 11 means there is a digital license. On any Windows 11 with a digital license you can change the product key to the same generic product keys for Windows 10 and it remains activated. Re-install the same edition of Windows 10 with the same generic product key and it will activate from the same digital license.

Microsoft has already stated that Windows 10 & 11 digital licenses are interchangeable.
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Win 11 is a morphed Win 10X... I don't see Win 11 keys ever. Digital licences will be the way forward.
 

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  • OS
    Windows

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3566
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
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    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
cereberus said:
Has anybody tested this e.g. on a pc without an embedded key and no previous W10/11 installation?
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After posting here and waiting for the answer I also directly asked from Microsoft support. They confirmed that I can install windows 10 using the same license and can easily upgrade back to win 11 in the future whenever I want.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Think Pad E15gen3
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700U
    Memory
    16gb
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