M
moob
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folder thumbnails, is not Subjective, is real.
windows 10 offers this possibility and windows 11 does not. Is real.
Solved Installing windows 10 on a win 11 pre installed laptop
- Thread starter hasebsiddiqui
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windows 10 offers this possibility and windows 11 does not. Is real.
Yes while that is you don't like that and that's the subjective bit. Others like me see that and don't care.
My Computer
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Windows 11 Home() - 25H2 -26220.8973AMD Ryzen 5 5600GG.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16Nvidia geforce gtx titan x
- OS
- Windows 11 Home() - 25H2 -26220.8973
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Banana Junior 5600-G Series
- CPU
- AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
- Motherboard
- Asus ROG Strix B550-F
- Memory
- G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
- Graphics Card(s)
- Nvidia geforce gtx titan x
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 28" ASUS VP28U 4k
- Screen Resolution
- 4K
- Hard Drives
- Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
- PSU
- EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
- Case
- Zalman i3 NEO
- Cooling
- ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
- Keyboard
- Corsair
- Mouse
- Amazon Generic with Cord
- Internet Speed
- Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
- Browser
- Firefox and Edge
- Antivirus
- MS - Defender
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- Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
M
moob
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yeahhh, but we are not comparing tastes, but operating systems.Yes while that is you don't like that and that's the subjective bit. Others like me see that and don't care.
i like mac and linux, but i prefer to use windows because of compatibility.
You're comparing what you like in one OS vs another one. Saying 11 is 'bad' or not 'good' should be based on functionality and not the interface. Things like does software work properly.. does the OS work properly.
And in every case 11 works just as well as 10 or better.
My Computer
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Windows 11 Home() - 25H2 -26220.8973AMD Ryzen 5 5600GG.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16Nvidia geforce gtx titan x
- OS
- Windows 11 Home() - 25H2 -26220.8973
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Banana Junior 5600-G Series
- CPU
- AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
- Motherboard
- Asus ROG Strix B550-F
- Memory
- G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
- Graphics Card(s)
- Nvidia geforce gtx titan x
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 28" ASUS VP28U 4k
- Screen Resolution
- 4K
- Hard Drives
- Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
- PSU
- EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
- Case
- Zalman i3 NEO
- Cooling
- ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
- Keyboard
- Corsair
- Mouse
- Amazon Generic with Cord
- Internet Speed
- Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
- Browser
- Firefox and Edge
- Antivirus
- MS - Defender
- Other Info
- Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
M
moob
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I agree, but I'm not the one who said that windows 11
is much better than windows 10.
when in reality it is not.
Ok.. but you have to admit that based on performance and functionality 11 is as good as 10.
My Computer
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Windows 11 Home() - 25H2 -26220.8973AMD Ryzen 5 5600GG.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16Nvidia geforce gtx titan x
- OS
- Windows 11 Home() - 25H2 -26220.8973
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Banana Junior 5600-G Series
- CPU
- AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
- Motherboard
- Asus ROG Strix B550-F
- Memory
- G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
- Graphics Card(s)
- Nvidia geforce gtx titan x
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 28" ASUS VP28U 4k
- Screen Resolution
- 4K
- Hard Drives
- Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
- PSU
- EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
- Case
- Zalman i3 NEO
- Cooling
- ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
- Keyboard
- Corsair
- Mouse
- Amazon Generic with Cord
- Internet Speed
- Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
- Browser
- Firefox and Edge
- Antivirus
- MS - Defender
- Other Info
- Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
M
moob
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yes, it depends on the hardware of each one.
I think in the future windows 11 may be better than windows 10, but for now it is not.
For now, it still has some limitations that windows 10, does not have.
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this conversation is on track.. 
Yes, you can install 10 on the laptop. I recommend copying %systemroot%\system32\driverstore\filerepository to external media so that you can easily resinstall all drivers via device manager after installation.
win 10 has functionality that 11 does not, such as folder thumbnails, pinning to taskbar via drop, etc. Just as 10 had functionality that 7/8.1 did not. it will always be the case with new OS. some features are deprecated and some new are added. he is correct in stating that said changes are real. whether or not people care about said changes is subjective. there; solved.
Yes, you can install 10 on the laptop. I recommend copying %systemroot%\system32\driverstore\filerepository to external media so that you can easily resinstall all drivers via device manager after installation.
win 10 has functionality that 11 does not, such as folder thumbnails, pinning to taskbar via drop, etc. Just as 10 had functionality that 7/8.1 did not. it will always be the case with new OS. some features are deprecated and some new are added. he is correct in stating that said changes are real. whether or not people care about said changes is subjective. there; solved.
My Computer
At a glance
Windows 11 Pro
- OS
- Windows 11 Pro
As already mentioned, it should be straightforward and cost free to revert to W10, and also just as easy in the future to change your mind and go to W11.
My Computers
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At a glance
W11 pro betaAthlon 3000G16Gb Crucial DDR4 2400onboard cpu- OS
- W11 pro beta
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- home built
- CPU
- Athlon 3000G
- Motherboard
- Asrock A320M-HDV r4.0
- Memory
- 16Gb Crucial DDR4 2400
- Graphics Card(s)
- onboard cpu
- Sound Card
- onboard
- Monitor(s) Displays
- LG 22EA53
- Screen Resolution
- 1920 x 1080
- Hard Drives
- WD black SN750 M2 500Gb
- PSU
- 500W Seasonic core 80+gold non modular
- Case
- Fractal Design Define R2
- Cooling
- front 2 x 120mm rear 100mm stock psu
- Internet Speed
- 135/20
- Browser
- Firefox and edge
- Antivirus
- Windows Security and free Malwarebytes
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At a glance
W11 pro 64 beta (from W10 pro system builder ...Ryzen 7 5700G4 x 8Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 DDR4onboard cpu- Operating System
- W11 pro 64 beta (from W10 pro system builder pack)
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- homebuilt
- CPU
- Ryzen 7 5700G
- Motherboard
- MSI B450 tomahawk max II
- Memory
- 4 x 8Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 DDR4
- Graphics card(s)
- onboard cpu
- Sound Card
- motherboard
- Monitor(s) Displays
- AOC 27
- Screen Resolution
- 2560 x 1440
- Hard Drives
- WD 1Tb Black M2 SN850X on Asus hyper M2 X16 max V2 card
- PSU
- Be Quiet 400 semi modular 80+gold
- Case
- Coolermaster Silencio 650
- Cooling
- 140mm front, 120 rear Akasa Vegas Chroma AM
- Internet Speed
- 135/20
- Browser
- edge/Firefox
- Antivirus
- WD plus Malwarebytes free
M
moob
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Windows 11 is so superior to windows 10, that you have to use third party applications and hacks to have the same features as windows 10 that already comes by default. 
Some of us like the new features in 11.. so that makes it superior to 10.Windows 11 is so superior to windows 10, that you have to use third party applications to have the same features as windows 10 that already comes by default.
My Computer
At a glance
Windows 11 Home() - 25H2 -26220.8973AMD Ryzen 5 5600GG.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16Nvidia geforce gtx titan x
- OS
- Windows 11 Home() - 25H2 -26220.8973
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Banana Junior 5600-G Series
- CPU
- AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
- Motherboard
- Asus ROG Strix B550-F
- Memory
- G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
- Graphics Card(s)
- Nvidia geforce gtx titan x
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 28" ASUS VP28U 4k
- Screen Resolution
- 4K
- Hard Drives
- Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
- PSU
- EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
- Case
- Zalman i3 NEO
- Cooling
- ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
- Keyboard
- Corsair
- Mouse
- Amazon Generic with Cord
- Internet Speed
- Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
- Browser
- Firefox and Edge
- Antivirus
- MS - Defender
- Other Info
- Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
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moob
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Some of us don´t like the lack of features, so that makes 10 superior to 11.
Some of use both, and don't mind too much that we have to do some things differently in each.
My Computers
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At a glance
Windows 11 HomeAMD Athlon Silver 3050U8GBRadeon Graphics- OS
- Windows 11 Home
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Acer Aspire 3 A315-23-R9VY
- CPU
- AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
- Memory
- 8GB
- Graphics Card(s)
- Radeon Graphics
- Monitor(s) Displays
- laptop screen
- Screen Resolution
- 1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
- Hard Drives
- 1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD (from April 2026: 250GB EVO 850)
- Internet Speed
- 150 Mbps
- Browser
- Edge, Firefox
- Antivirus
- Defender
- Other Info
- UPDATE - 11 April 2026: due to lid hinges starting to break up this laptop has been retired from active duty. The OS with all software and files has been migrated to my System Seven in 'Other systems' to carry on as my general purpose 'main machine'.
I've now clean installed 25H2 and used Garlin's scripts to update Secure Boot to CA 2023 and revoke the PCA 2011 certificates. It's new role is to test secure boot issues.
Info for 2021-2026:
fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2, and 25H2 on 30th September 2025 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 25H2.
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At a glance
Windows 11 ProIntel® Core™ i5-520M8GB(integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics- Operating System
- Windows 11 Pro
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Dell Latitude E4310
- CPU
- Intel® Core™ i5-520M
- Motherboard
- 0T6M8G
- Memory
- 8GB
- Graphics card(s)
- (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
- Screen Resolution
- 1366x768
- Hard Drives
- 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
- Browser
- Firefox, Edge
- Antivirus
- Defender
- Other Info
- unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.
In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.
Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package.
In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media.
Upgraded to 25H2 by Enablement Package.
Also running Insider Dev, and Canary builds and Windows 10 as native boot .vhdx.
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My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
My SYSTEM FOUR was a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e (1st gen) type 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device. This has now been sold and replaced by System Eight.
My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 1TB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.
My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.
My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine.
My SYSTEM EIGHT is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e (5th gen) type 20LN, Celeron N4120, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, a supported device for Windows 11. Currently running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Dev, Beta, and Canary builds as native boot vhdx.
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Has anybody tested this e.g. on a pc without an embedded key and no previous W10/11 installation?
My Computer
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Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ16 GB solderedIntegrated Intel Iris XE
- OS
- Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- ASUS Zenbook 14
- CPU
- I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
- Motherboard
- Yep, Laptop has one.
- Memory
- 16 GB soldered
- Graphics Card(s)
- Integrated Intel Iris XE
- Sound Card
- Realtek built in
- Monitor(s) Displays
- laptop OLED screen
- Screen Resolution
- 2880x1800 touchscreen
- Hard Drives
- 1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
- PSU
- Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
- Case
- Yep, got one
- Cooling
- Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
- Keyboard
- Built in UK keybd
- Mouse
- Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
- Internet Speed
- 900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
- Browser
- Edge
- Antivirus
- Defender
- Other Info
- TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)
Macrium Reflect Home V8
Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
orlbuckeye
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I prefer Windows 11 over 10 and haven't found anything I did in 10 that I can't do in 11.
My Computers
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At a glance
Windows 10Intel Quad-Core i7-8650U, 4.2GHz16GBNvidia GeForce GTX 1060, 6GB- OS
- Windows 10
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Microsoft Surface Book 2
- CPU
- Intel Quad-Core i7-8650U, 4.2GHz
- Memory
- 16GB
- Graphics Card(s)
- Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060, 6GB
- Sound Card
- Dolby Atmos support for headphones
- Screen Resolution
- 15-inch display, 3240 x 2160, 260 PPI.
- Hard Drives
- 512GB SSD 512
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At a glance
Windows 10 Proi9-9900 Turbo Boost to 5ghz64 gbNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650- Operating System
- Windows 10 Pro
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- HP ENVY All-in-One 32
- CPU
- i9-9900 Turbo Boost to 5ghz
- Motherboard
- HP 86C7 0001
- Memory
- 64 gb
- Graphics card(s)
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
- Sound Card
- Realtek(R) Audio
- Monitor(s) Displays
- HP ALL-in-One
- Screen Resolution
- 4K UHD (3840 x 2160)
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- Windows 11
It's impossible to test.
1. There are no product keys, yet, that any product key checking software will identify as being a Windows 11 Product key.
2. Legitimately activated Windows 11 means there is a digital license. On any Windows 11 with a digital license you can change the product key to the same generic product keys for Windows 10 and it remains activated. Re-install the same edition of Windows 10 with the same generic product key and it will activate from the same digital license.
Microsoft has already stated that Windows 10 & 11 digital licenses are interchangeable.
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My Computers
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At a glance
Windows 11AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT32GBEVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti- OS
- Windows 11
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Homebuilt
- CPU
- AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
- Motherboard
- ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
- Memory
- 32GB
- Graphics Card(s)
- EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
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At a glance
Windows 11 EducationIntel i7-8550U32GBNvidia Geforce MX150- Operating System
- Windows 11 Education
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Dell Inspiron 7773
- CPU
- Intel i7-8550U
- Memory
- 32GB
- Graphics card(s)
- Nvidia Geforce MX150
- Sound Card
- Realtek
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 17"
- Screen Resolution
- 1920 x 1080
- Hard Drives
- Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
- Internet Speed
- Fast!
- Local time
- 10:11 AM
- Posts
- 518
- OS
- Windows
Win 11 is a morphed Win 10X... I don't see Win 11 keys ever. Digital licences will be the way forward.
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Windows
- OS
- Windows
M
moob
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you searched little...
Folder thumbnails, pinning to taskbar via drop, etc...
here is a list of what you don't have in windows 11, but it does exist in windows 10.
List of features removed in Windows 11 - Wikipedia
That he can do.. he can still do the things he wants to do with 11 that he did with 10.
My Computer
At a glance
Windows 11 Home() - 25H2 -26220.8973AMD Ryzen 5 5600GG.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16Nvidia geforce gtx titan x
- OS
- Windows 11 Home() - 25H2 -26220.8973
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Banana Junior 5600-G Series
- CPU
- AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
- Motherboard
- Asus ROG Strix B550-F
- Memory
- G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
- Graphics Card(s)
- Nvidia geforce gtx titan x
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 28" ASUS VP28U 4k
- Screen Resolution
- 4K
- Hard Drives
- Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
- PSU
- EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
- Case
- Zalman i3 NEO
- Cooling
- ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
- Keyboard
- Corsair
- Mouse
- Amazon Generic with Cord
- Internet Speed
- Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
- Browser
- Firefox and Edge
- Antivirus
- MS - Defender
- Other Info
- Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
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- Windows 11
After posting here and waiting for the answer I also directly asked from Microsoft support. They confirmed that I can install windows 10 using the same license and can easily upgrade back to win 11 in the future whenever I want.
My Computer
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Windows 11Ryzen 7 5700U16gb
- OS
- Windows 11
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Lenovo Think Pad E15gen3
- CPU
- Ryzen 7 5700U
- Memory
- 16gb
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