Insider KB5029352 Windows 11 Insider Beta 22621.2199 and 22631.2199 - Aug. 18


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UPDATE 8/24:


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Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22621.2191 and Build 22631.2191 (KB5029352) to the Beta Channel.
  • Build 22631.2199 = New features rolling out.
  • Build 22621.2199 = New features off by default.

KB5027397 Enablement Package for Windows 11 Beta build 22621.xxx (22H2) to build 22631.xxx (23H2)


REMINDER: Insiders who were previously on Build 22624 will automatically get moved to Build 22631 via an enablement package. The enablement package artificially increments the build number for the update with new features getting rolled out and turned on to make it easier to differentiate from devices with the update with features off by default. This approach is being used for the Beta Channel only and is not indicative of any changes or plans for final feature rollouts.

Insiders who landed in the group with new features turned off by default (Build 22621.xxxx) can check for updates and choose to install the update that will have features rolling out (Build 22631.xxxx).

What’s new in Build 22631.2199

Native support for reading additional archive file formats


As announced at the Build conference back in May, this build adds native support for reading additional archive file formats using the libarchive open-source project such as:
  • .tar
  • .tar.gz
  • .tar.bz2
  • .tar.zst
  • .tar.xz
  • .tgz
  • .tbz2
  • .tzst
  • .txz
  • .rar
  • .7z
  • And more!
Please note that encrypted archives are currently not supported.

FEEDBACK: Please file feedback in Feedback Hub (Win + F) under Files, Folders, and Online Storage > File Explorer.

Changes and Improvements in Build 22631.2199

[Start menu]

  • For files that do not have rich thumbnail previews that can be provided, it will no longer show a blank preview area. This is part of the work for rich thumbnail previews (tooltips) for cloud files on Start that began rolling out with Build 22631.2129.

    Updated tooltip on the Start menu for files that do not have rich thumbnail previews that can be provided.
    Updated tooltip on the Start menu for files that do not have rich thumbnail previews that can be provided.

[Taskbar & System Tray]

  • You can now turn on never combined mode on the taskbar by right-clicking on the taskbar, choosing “Taskbar settings” and under “Taskbar behaviors” simply adjusting “Combine taskbar buttons and hide labels” to never. And we provide a separate setting for turning this on for other taskbars (multiple monitor scenarios for example).


    Updated settings for never combined mode.
    Updated settings for never combined mode.

[Narrator]

We have made the following improvements for Narrator:
  • Changed default verbosity level from 2 to 3 which will now announce “Immediate Context Name and Type”. The Control context type like “list” or “toolbar” will allow users to better understand the focused control – same default as JAWS and NVDA.
  • Narrator users are unblocked for typing Traditional Chinese characters in Windows by addition of Traditional Chinese dictionary for detailed reading.
We have made the following improvements for Narrator with Braille:
  • When navigating to any attachment in Outlook with scan mode, narrator announces the & of the attachment, the same is now reflected on braille display.
  • Navigate to different headings in Scan Mode using down arrow, or ‘Space + 4’ key in Braille device, now navigating to heading is reflected in Braille.
  • When navigating a list with items , whenever Narrator announces index with the menu item name, Braille display also reflects the same index values as “1 of 4”.

[Settings]

  • The end task feature under System > For Developers no longer requires Developer Mode to be enabled first before it can be used.

  • [ADDED] Under Settings > Personalization > Device usage, we have added “Development” to the list and toggling it on will launch Dev Home. This matches what is shown in OOBE (“out of box experience”).

Fixes in Build 22631.2199

[Taskbar & System Tray]

  • Fixed an issue causing app icons in the taskbar to not be able to move, and start overlapping once you tried to do this, in the previous flight.
  • Fixed an issue causing the safely remove hardware icon to not appear when expected in the system tray.
  • Fixed an issue where the End Task feature wasn’t working if you tried it when there were multiple windows open of that app.
  • Fixed an issue where using End Task on certain apps would cause other unrelated apps to close.

[File Explorer]

  • We’ve done some work to improve the performance of archive functionality during compression on Windows.

[Input]

  • Fixed an issue causing typing with the Japanese and Chinese IMEs to not work correctly after the latest flights for some Insiders.

[Narrator]

  • Fixed an issue where Narrator was not reading various list items in a combo box on various web pages when navigating with up and down arrow.
  • Fixed an issue where Narrator was incorrectly announcing combo boxes as read-only even when users could actually select different values from the combo box list items.
  • Addressed the issue where Narrator was not announcing the checked and unchecked status of radio buttons but was announcing selected for every item.
  • Fixed an issue where Narrator was announcing older information while navigating in date/time picker using arrow keys.
  • Fixed an issue where Narrator was incorrectly reading contents of previous cell and the current cell when navigating in a table using right and left arrow keys.
  • Fixed an issue where Narrator is incorrectly reading older Window title even after navigating to inner control.
  • Fixed an issue where Narrator is reading entire paragraph when up arrow is invoked in online word document.
  • Fixed an issue where Narrator was incorrectly reading out last word of previous paragraph when a new paragraph started with a punctuation mark.
  • Fixed a bug where Narrator was not announcing the character being deleted when using backspace key in some text fields on the web.
  • Fixed an issue in narrator where while entering any number in CVV edit field, Narrator should only announce as “hidden”, instead of “CVV edit, hidden new line selected”.
  • Fixed an issue where Narrator is not able to detect different headings on some web pages in scan mode while using “h” key to navigate.
  • Fixed an issue where Narrator scan mode arrow navigation skipped first item in container.
  • Fixed an issue, where Narrator is skipping the first item after navigating via landmark using “d” key in scan mode.
  • Fixed an issue where Narrator focus did not move past the first check box if there was a list of check boxes when using up and down arrow key in scan mode.
  • Fixed an issue where Narrator was not activating combo box when navigating using up and down arrow and using enter/spacebar to activate it in scan mode.
  • Fixed an issue where Narrator would collapse the combo boxes in scan mode when navigating with up and down arrows.
  • Fixed an issue where navigation commands are not executed as expected in a dialog box when you enter the dialog the second time.
  • Fixed an issue where Narrator find was not working consistently on web pages when using Narrator key + Ctrl + F key combination.

[HDR Wallpaper]

  • Fixed an issue where your HDR wallpaper might appear washed out although HDR was enabled.
  • Fixed an issue where it wasn’t possible to select .JXL files for your wallpaper slideshow.

[Task Manager]

  • Updated the summary view for the Performance page (that you see when double clicking the graphs in the navigation pane) to make the window smaller.

Fixes for BOTH Build 22621.2199 & Build 22631.2199

  • New! This update adds new functionality that affects app defaults. To learn more, see A principled approach to app pinning and app defaults in Windows.
  • This update addresses an issue that causes Windows to fail. This occurs when you use BitLocker on a storage medium that has a large sector size.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects Remote Desktop sessions. Sometimes you receive a wrong error message when you try to sign in to a session.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects the search icon. When you select it, the Search app does not open. This occurs after a machine has been asleep.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects It does not correctly identify the search box on the taskbar and search highlights within the search box.
  • This update adds a new API for D3D12 Independent Devices. You can use it to create multiple D3D12 devices on the same adapter. To learn more, see D3D12 Independent Devices.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects disk partitions. The system might stop working. This occurs after you delete a disk partition and add the space from the deleted partition to an existing BitLocker partition.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects Start menu icons. They are missing after you sign in for the first time.
  • This update supports daylight saving time (DST) changes in Israel.
  • This update improves the reliability of the Search app.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects print jobs that are sent to a virtual print queue. They fail without an error.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects the search box size. Its size is reduced in tablet posture mode on Microsoft Surface Pro and Surface Book devices.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects the TAB key. Using it to browse search results requires additional actions.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects the Group Policy Service. It will not wait for 30 seconds, which is the default wait time, for the network to be available. Because of this, policies are not correctly processed.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects settings. They do not sync even if you turn on the toggle on the Windows Backup page in the Settings app.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects the Resultant Set of Policy (RSOP). The Windows LAPS “BackupDirectory” policy setting was not being reported. This occurs when the setting is set to 1, which is “Back up to AAD.”
  • This update addresses an issue that causes high CPU use. This occurs when you enable the “fBlockNonDomain policy.”
  • The update addresses an issue that affects those who use Windows Update for Business. After you are asked to change your password at sign in, the change operation fails. Then you cannot sign in. The error code is 0xc000006d.
  • This update addresses an issue that affects a WS_EX_LAYERED window. The window might render with the wrong dimensions or at the wrong position. This occurs when you scale the display screen.

Known issues

[General]

  • [NEW] After updating to this build, the “Check for updates” does not appear as expected under Settings > Windows Update. To manually check for updates, you can open Windows Terminal (or the Run dialog) and enter the USOClient StartInteractiveScan command which will perform the same function as clicking the “Check for updates” button in Windows Update. Note that running the command will not display any output. To confirm that the operation was successful, you can run the command while the Windows Update settings page is open. You should see your device checking for updates.

  • We’re working on the fix for an issue causing explorer.exe to crash on the login screen when attempting to enter safe mode.

[File Explorer]

  • In some cases, the context menu background in File Explorer may appear transparent.
  • Investigating an issue where the icons on your desktop may all go blank. Right-click and refresh on the desktop will bypass the issue if it occurs.

[Narrator]

  • You may see some of the strings are NOT localized to the selected language. This will be fixed in a future flight.

Snipping Tool Update

We are beginning to roll out an update to Snipping Tool (version 11.2306.43.0 and higher) to Windows Insiders in the Beta Channel. This update introduces new buttons to edit in Paint for screenshots and edit in Clipchamp for screen recordings.

New buttons in Snipping Tool for editing screen clips in Paint and screen recordings in Clipchamp.
New buttons in Snipping Tool for editing screen clips in Paint and screen recordings in Clipchamp.

FEEDBACK: Please file feedback in Feedback Hub by clicking here.

About the Beta Channel

The Beta Channel is the place we preview experiences that are closer to what we will ship to our general customers. Because the Dev and Beta Channels represent parallel development paths from our engineers, there may be cases where features and experiences show up in the Beta Channel first. However, this does not mean every feature we try out in the Beta Channel will ship. We encourage Insiders to read this blog post that outlines the ways we’ll try things out with Insiders in both the Dev and Beta Channels.

Important Insider Links

Thanks,
Amanda & Brandon


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switching between the search box styles now crashs windows explorer on this build it may have being the past few builds had it too but i don't know about that one
It only crashes for me when switching to 'Search icon and label'. I can switch from that to any of the others, or switch between any other option without crashing explorer.


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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
It only crashes for me when switching to 'Search icon and label'. I can switch from that to any of the others, or switch between any other option without crashing explorer.


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yeah thats what i meant sorry
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    Intel 12th gen i7 12700KF 3.6Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z790-P Wifi D4 DDR4
    Memory
    Corsair Vengence LPX 32GB 3600MHz (2x 16GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus GeForce RTX 3060 Dual 12GB OC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 2016 32"K5500 5 Series Flat FHD Smart TV i plan on geting a 2nd Monitor some point in the next year or 2
    Screen Resolution
    1920:1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD only WD Black SN850X 2TB M.2 Gen 4 NVMe x1
    PSU
    Asus TUF Gaming 1000W 80+ Gold
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL ROG Black
    Cooling
    Asus ROG Strix LC II 360 ARGB
    Mouse
    Razer Death Adder V2 Pro Wireless
    Browser
    Opera GX and some times edge
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    Intel Core I7 4700HQ 2.4 ghz
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 1600MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce 750M
    Screen Resolution
    1920:1080
    Hard Drives
    V Series 480GB SATA SSD
I was actually hoping we might have received a 'fix' for the broken check for updates button, so far anyway nothing yet.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows11Pro(x64),(Version 23H2 ) (Build 22635.3350) (Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1001.0 )
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP/HP8300EliteSFF
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz
    Memory
    8.00 GB (7.88 GB usable)
  • Operating System
    Windows11Pro(x64),(Version 23H2 ) (Build 22635.3350) (Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1001.0 )
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo/T430
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.60 GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 2349KB7
    Memory
    8.00 GB (7.82 GB usable)
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel (R) HD Graphics 4000
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Hard Drives
    SSD 222.79 GB
I was actually hoping we might have received a 'fix' for the broken check for updates button, so far anyway nothing yet.
Next Beta, probably. Later this week.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Multi-boot Windows 11 & 10 - RTM, RP, Beta, Dev and Canary
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware R12
    CPU
    11th Gen i9-11900KF @ 3.50GHz, 8 cores/16 logical proc.
    Motherboard
    Alienware 07HV66 (U3E1)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 w/10GB GDDR5X mem
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" Curved C27F591
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe PM961 NVMe SSD SAMSUNG (Boot),
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001-1ER164 (SATA),
    1TB Samsung SSD 850 EVO,
    1TB Seagate ST1000DM003-1ER162,
    1TB WD Elements 10A8 USB Device,
    1TB BUFFALO HD-PNTU3 USB Device,
    1TB x4 Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device
    PSU
    850W PSU Liquid Cooled Chassis - CyberPower 1500 UPS
    Case
    Alienware Mid-Tower (Dell)
    Cooling
    Liquid Cooled - 3 fan - Top exhaust
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800 Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master Wireless
    Internet Speed
    1 Gigabit
    Browser
    FF, Chrome, Opera, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender, MBAM, SuperAntiSpyware
    Other Info
    Blueray R/W Optical,
    Canon MX410 series Printer/Fax/Scanner/Copier,
    Altec 5.1 Speakers L-R, Mid Base Boom,

    Macrium Home Premium, Revo Pro, Screenspresso Pro
Should be there for everyone. Do you know what to look for? It's not intermediately obvious.

The support in Fie Explorer is that you can now explore other archive types in the same way you've always been able to explore .zip files, as if it were a folder. You can also right-click on almost any archive type and get the 'Extract all' option. The support is only for opening other types of archives, zip is still the only type you can create using File Explorer.

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Ok I saw screenshots of the additional zip formats included on the right click menu, guess those must be fake?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel i9 14900KF
    Motherboard
    Asus z790 ProArt Creator WiFi
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI 4090 Suprim X
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 x Asus 24". 1 x Asus 32"
    Hard Drives
    Multiple
    PSU
    Corsair 1200HX
    Case
    Corsair 7000D RGB
    Cooling
    Corsair H150I Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB MK.2
    Mouse
    Corsair M55 RGB Pro
Ok I saw screenshots of the additional zip formats included on the right click menu, guess those must be fake?
The release notes in post #1 only says there's support for opening other archive formats:
"this build adds native support for reading additional archive file formats".

Where were these screenshots? WinRar or 7-Zip can be added to the right click context menu if you have installed either of them, but that's not native support, it's 3rd party support.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
The release notes in post #1 only says there's support for opening other archive formats:
"this build adds native support for reading additional archive file formats".

Where were these screenshots? WinRar or 7-Zip can be added to the right click context menu if you have installed either of them, but that's not native support, it's 3rd party support.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel i9 14900KF
    Motherboard
    Asus z790 ProArt Creator WiFi
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI 4090 Suprim X
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 x Asus 24". 1 x Asus 32"
    Hard Drives
    Multiple
    PSU
    Corsair 1200HX
    Case
    Corsair 7000D RGB
    Cooling
    Corsair H150I Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB MK.2
    Mouse
    Corsair M55 RGB Pro
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Try this. Once you've extracted and saved the file, run it as admin and choose which insider channel you want to join... then restart your PC. Let me know if it works for you.
No thank you, they fixed the insider servers on Aug 21, 2023. 😉
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Yoga 920
    CPU
    Intel I7-8550U
    Motherboard
    n/a
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics UHD 620
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (SST)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Touch screen
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
I've been using Chrome, Edge (both the original and chromium), Brave, and Firefox. None of those required needing to unblock the file.
MS had so many bugs on this, files would just hang or could not be unzipped if not unblocked, unless they were downloaded with MS Edge.
That was not that long ago, for sure not 5 years. I can probably still find the FBH reports about all the problems trying to open blocked files.
Maybe they finally fixed the bugs. I'll check them out on future downloads. 😎

Here are some more info about the Mark of the Web.
You can find plenty of information on how it works by searching for Mark of the Web (MOTW).


Also, how to display the ADS (Alternate Data Streams) of an NTFS file and how to use notepad to see the Zone.Identifier:$DATA and the SmartScreen:$DATA information.

Command dir /r will show the ADS information for the file downloaded, see sample below:
1692941768465.png
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Yoga 920
    CPU
    Intel I7-8550U
    Motherboard
    n/a
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics UHD 620
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (SST)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Touch screen
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
About the unblock, I see that in all the tutorials but I never unblock anything and that's speaking for the last 5+ years or ever since I used Windows in the late 1980s on both old and new machines and they all can be used without issues.
Here is another sample of an ISO file just downloaded from MS insider site using Chrome:

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1692948016226.png

1692948196910.png

1692948543066.png
c:\Temp>notepad Windows11_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_en-us_23526.iso:Zone.Identifier:$DATA
1692948660325.png

Trying mounting with file explorer it hangs for a few seconds and then pops out the message below:
1692948888821.png

If I uncheck "Always ask before opening this file" showing above, then the file gets unblocked by file explorer, and the ADS gets removed from the NTFS file.
After that it opens without checking and without delay. 😉🤷‍♂️

1692949305095.png

When unblocked the ADS with the Zone.Identifier gets removed from the NTFS file. 😎😉
1692949568471.png

Looks like they are now managing the ADS correctly. For a long time before they fixed the bug, file explorer was just hanging forever when trying to mount the unblocked ISO. 🤐🤷‍♂️
As a result of those problems, I got in the habit of unblocking the files before I even try opening. 😂😂🤐
If I download the same file with MS Edge, there is no problem mounting it because MS edge adds 1692950226701.png
that triggers the unblock the first time the file is mounted with File Explorer.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Yoga 920
    CPU
    Intel I7-8550U
    Motherboard
    n/a
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics UHD 620
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (SST)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Touch screen
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
Yes, I have seen the Always ask before opening this type of file regularly, just never had to manually unblock any file by properties on it first. I've never had issues mounting either but have only mounted everything since Windows 11, the first or second build while Windows 11 was not yet released to the public.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Case
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Cooling
    Stock
    Keyboard
    Stock
    Mouse
    SwitftPoint ProPoint
    Internet Speed
    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender that came with Windows
Yes, I have seen the Always ask before opening this type of file regularly, just never had to manually unblock any file by properties on it first. I've never had issues mounting either but have only mounted everything since Windows 11, the first or second build while Windows 11 was not yet released to the public.
It is quite a different behavior when you download the same file with MS Edge.

Anyway, they had plenty of bugs on this in Windows 10 and also in Windows 11 before they got it to work.



I still prefer to unblock the file before I try opening it, it is quicker.
Depending on where the file is downloaded from you still need to know if you can trust it or not or you may open a can of worms. 😎😂🤐
MS Edge is supposed to know which sites can be trusted and which ones are dangerous and behave accordingly.

Here is the same file downloaded with MS Edge. You can see that in this case it has the SmartScreen:$DATA that contains the Word Anaheim.
In this case it means that the file can be trusted and it will mount without delay and it will be unblocked automatically on first open.
notepad Windows11_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_en-us_23526.iso:SmartScreen:$DATA
1692952064081.png

1692951923981.png

The Zone.Identifier is also present as it was on the previous download with Chrome.
notepad Windows11_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_en-us_23526.iso:Zone.Identifier:$DATA
1692952353557.png
 
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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Yoga 920
    CPU
    Intel I7-8550U
    Motherboard
    n/a
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics UHD 620
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (SST)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Touch screen
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
Good points, usually the things I download are things I use regularly so the link is from the author of the program and you are probably right about MS Edge as 99% of the time, I download with Chrome and very rarely with MS Edge and even with MS Edge, it's only like once in a blue moon. LOL.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Case
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Cooling
    Stock
    Keyboard
    Stock
    Mouse
    SwitftPoint ProPoint
    Internet Speed
    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender that came with Windows
hello, I have a problem after installing windows 11 with a newer update, the edge browser starts automatically and white icons on the desktop appear from time to time why is this happening?
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-9700F, 4500 MHz
    Motherboard
    ASRock B365M-HDV
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce GTX 1070 (8 GB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC887 @ Intel Kaby Point PCH - High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32 cale
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 1050
    Hard Drives
    Dysk nr 1 - Patriot Burst (B5950791083400100449) [894 GB] D: E:
    Dysk nr 2 - SAMSUNG MZVLB256HBHQ-000L2 (0025_3889_91CB_C6D1.) [238 GB] C: F: G:
    Keyboard
    roccat
hello, I have a problem after installing windows 11 with a newer update, the edge browser starts automatically and white icons on the desktop appear from time to time why is this happening?
Which update?
The white icons on the desktop is a reported problem, but no fix yet.

Current Beta Build is 22631.2262.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Yoga 920
    CPU
    Intel I7-8550U
    Motherboard
    n/a
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics UHD 620
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (SST)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Touch screen
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
Hello,
As far as the chromium edge browser is concerned at least for me it continues to become more bloated with needless items. It's not currently set as my default browser on any of my computers. One of the main issues that I have with edge that I don't have with any other windows web browser is on this particular site: MSNBC Live: Stream the latest TV shows where the only way that I'm able to get the 'live' stream to play properly is to utilize a user agent extension so as to 'fool' that page into thinking that I'm using a different browse which I think is rather ubsurd especially when edge is considered to be a modern web browser.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows11Pro(x64),(Version 23H2 ) (Build 22635.3350) (Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1001.0 )
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP/HP8300EliteSFF
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz
    Memory
    8.00 GB (7.88 GB usable)
  • Operating System
    Windows11Pro(x64),(Version 23H2 ) (Build 22635.3350) (Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1001.0 )
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo/T430
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.60 GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 2349KB7
    Memory
    8.00 GB (7.82 GB usable)
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel (R) HD Graphics 4000
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Hard Drives
    SSD 222.79 GB
Hopefully the desktop icons turning white after I save or download files gets, eventually, fixed.
I have to refresh for them to return to normal (be visible).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro (Beta Build 22635.3566)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware

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