Win Update KB5033375 Windows 11 Cumulative Update Build 22621.2861 (22H2) and 22631.2861 (23H2)


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December 12, 2023 - KB5033375 (OS Builds 22621.2861 and 22631.2861)​


IMPORTANT Because of minimal operations during the Western holidays and the upcoming new year, there won’t be a non-security preview release for the month of December 2023. There will be a monthly security release for December 2023. Normal monthly servicing for both security and non-security preview releases will resume in January 2024.

11/14/23
IMPORTANT
After February 27, 2024, there will no longer be optional, non-security preview releases for Windows 11, version 22H2. Only cumulative monthly security updates will continue for the supported editions of Windows 11, version 22H2.

For information about Windows update terminology, see the article about the types of Windows updates and the monthly quality update types. For an overview of Windows 11, version 23H2, see its update history page.

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Highlights​

  • This update addresses security issues for your Windows operating system.

Improvements​

Note: To view the list of addressed issues, click or tap the OS name to expand the collapsible section.

Windows 11, version 23H2​

Important: Use EKB KB5027397 to update to Windows 11, version 23H2.

This security update includes quality improvements. Key changes include:
  • This build includes all the improvements in Windows 11, version 22H2.
  • No additional issues are documented for this release.

Windows 11, version 22H2​

This security update includes improvements that were a part of update KB5032288 (released December 4, 2023). When you install this KB:
  • This update makes miscellaneous security improvements to internal OS functionality. No additional issues were documented for this release.
If you installed earlier updates, only the new updates contained in this package will be downloaded and installed on your device.

For more information about security vulnerabilities, please refer to the Security Update Guide website and the December 2023 Security Updates.

Windows 11 servicing stack update - 22621.2567 and 22631.2567​

This update makes quality improvements to the servicing stack, which is the component that installs Windows updates. Servicing stack updates (SSU) ensure that you have a robust and reliable servicing stack so that your devices can receive and install Microsoft updates.

Known issues in this update​

Applies toSymptomWorkaround
IT adminsUsing the FixedDrivesEncryptionType or SystemDrivesEncryptionType policy settings in the BitLocker configuration service provider (CSP) node in mobile device management (MDM) apps might incorrectly show a 65000 error in the "Require Device Encryption" setting for some devices in your environment. Affected environments are those with the “Enforce drive encryption type on operating system drives” or "Enforce drive encryption on fixed drives" policies set to enabled and selecting either "full encryption" or "used space only". Microsoft Intune is affected by this issue but third-party MDMs might also pe affected.

Important This issue is a reporting issue only and does not affect drive encryption or the reporting of other issues on the device, including other BitLocker issues.
To mitigate this issue in Microsoft Intune, you can set the “Enforce drive encryption type on operating system drives” or "Enforce drive encryption on fixed drives" policies to not configured.

We are working on a resolution and will provide an update in an upcoming release.
All usersWindows devices using more than one (1) monitor might experience issues with desktop icons moving unexpectedly between monitors or other icon alignment issues when attempting to use Copilot in Windows (in preview).To prevent users from encountering this issue, Copilot in Windows (in preview) might not be available on devices that have been used or are currently being used in a multimonitor configuration.

We are working on a resolution and will provide an update in an upcoming release.
All usersThe color font format for COLRv1 does not render properly. This format enables Windows to display emoji with a 3D-like appearance.We are working on a resolution and will provide an update in an upcoming release.
All usersWhen using physical media or disc images (ISO) to install Windows 11, version 23H2 (also referred to as the Windows 11 2023 Update) on a device, Microsoft Narrator might not start.

Narrator is commonly initialized using keyboard commands, such as Ctrl + Windows key + Enter. Although Narrator is present in Windows when the installation process begins, it might open in an unresponsive state when initialized using any method.

Please note this issue does not occur when Windows 11, version 23H2 is installed using Windows Update on a device which is already running Windows 10 or Windows 11. This issue only occurs when physical media or ISOs are used for this installation and Narrator is only affected while the installation process is taking place. It should continue to work as expected once the installation is completed.
We are working on a resolution and updated media which can be used to install Windows 11, version 23H2 without this issue. We will provide an update in an upcoming release.
All usersMicrosoft has received reports of an issue in which some Wi-Fi adapters might not connect to some networks after installing this update. We have confirmed this issue was caused by this update and KB5033375. As reported, you are more likely to be affected by this issue if you are attempting to connect to an enterprise, education, or public Wi-Fi network using 802.1x authentication. This issue is not likely to occur on home networks.This issue is addressed using Known Issue Rollback (KIR). Please note that it might take up to 24 hours for the KIR to propagate automatically to consumer devices and non-managed business devices. Restarting your Windows device might help the KIR apply to your device faster.

For enterprise-managed devices that have installed an affected update and encountered this issue, it can be addressed by installing and configuring a special Group Policy. The special Group Policy can be found in Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > <Group Policy name listed below>
For information on deploying and configuring these special Group Policy, please see How to use Group Policy to deploy a Known Issue Rollback.

Group Policy downloads with Group Policy name:
Important You will need to install and configure the Group Policy for your version of Windows to resolve this issue. You will also need to restart your device(s) to apply the group policy setting.

How to get this update​

Before installing this update

Microsoft combines the latest servicing stack update (SSU) for your operating system with the latest cumulative update (LCU). For general information about SSUs, see Servicing stack updates and Servicing Stack Updates (SSU): Frequently Asked Questions.

Install this update

Release ChannelAvailableNext Step
Windows Update and Microsoft UpdateYesNone. This update will be downloaded and installed automatically from Windows Update.
Windows Update for BusinessYesNone. This update will be downloaded and installed automatically from Windows Update in accordance with configured policies.
Microsoft Update CatalogYesTo get the standalone package for this update, go to the Microsoft Update Catalog website.
Windows Server Update Services (WSUS)YesThis update will automatically sync with WSUS if you configure Products and Classifications as follows:
Product: Windows 11
Classification: Security Updates

If you want to remove the LCU

To remove the LCU after installing the combined SSU and LCU package, use the DISM/Remove-Package command line option with the LCU package name as the argument. You can find the package name by using this command: DISM /online /get-packages.

Running Windows Update Standalone Installer (wusa.exe) with the /uninstall switch on the combined package will not work because the combined package contains the SSU. You cannot remove the SSU from the system after installation.

File information

For a list of the files that are provided in this update, download the file information for cumulative update 5033375.

For a list of the files that are provided in the servicing stack update, download the file information for the SSU - versions 22621.2567 and 22631.2567.


 Source:



Check Windows Updates


Direct download links for KB5033375 MSU file from Microsoft Update Catalog:

Download KB5033375 MSU for Windows 11 v23H2 64-bit (x64) - 622.5 MB

Download KB5033375 MSU for Windows 11 v23H2 ARM64 - 744.8 MB


ISO from Microsoft MCT:



UUP Dump:

64-bit ISO download:

ARM64 ISO download:

 
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This update automatically installed on a a Win11 Pro desktop -- and like with my other desktop, broke it. Search button no longer works, nor does settings;

I am using the MCT to download an ISO of this latest build to see if a Repair-Install will work; otherwise, it's back to the previous build;

UPDATE: The repair-install worked but the situation now is WORSE!! I get no taskbar at all. I die the Explorer restart stuff from the tutorial here, but that changed nothing.

Looks like I will have to do an image restore from build 2715 and fine out how to prevent Windows Updates after that.
 
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    Ryzen 5600X
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    ASRock Steel Legend
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    16GB
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    EVGA GT 710
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    None
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    23",24", 19" - flat panels
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    1920x1200
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    None - only M.2 SATA and NVMe drives
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    750W
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    Antec
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    stock Wraith cooler
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    Corsair gaming
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    Logitech M720
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    1Gb
Here is a weird one, not just specific to this build, same problem with any build with latest updates.
MS updated the MTP USB Device drivers and now, when I connect my Canon camera to the USB for uploading the pictures, it doesn't work correctly anymore. 😵‍💫🤬
I have to use a workaround to bypass the bug. 😵‍💫🤬🤐
Anybody else with a similar issue?
See details on the link below.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Yoga 920
    CPU
    Intel I7-8550U
    Motherboard
    n/a
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics UHD 620
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (SST)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Touch screen
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
Here I don't have problems with my two camera's:
- One very old Fujifilm Finepix F700
- And a more modern Sony Cybershot DSC-HX90

Both are functioning correctly if connected via USB.
Camera's are visible in File Explorer as USB-drive or recognized as camera (depends on the settings in the camera).
I can download pictures from both camera's, tried the direct way in File Explorer (where you have to choose the right subfolder) or in Faststone Image Viewer (where you can download pictures directly).

I have updated recently to: 23H2 22631.2861
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Kingston NV2 - 500 GB
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
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    Cooler Master Hyper H412R
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    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
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    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 115.7.0 ESR
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
Here I don't have problems with my two camera's:
- One very old Fujifilm Finepix F700
- And a more modern Sony Cybershot DSC-HX90

Both are functioning correctly if connected via USB.
Camera's are visible in File Explorer as USB-drive or recognized as camera (depends on the settings in the camera).
I can download pictures from both camera's, tried the direct way in File Explorer (where you have to choose the right subfolder) or in Faststone Image Viewer (where you can download pictures directly).

I have updated recently to: 23H2 22631.2861
I guess they supply the correct drivers for your cameras.
I'll be curious to hear from other users with Canon cameras. 😎
It looks like Canon support is completely useless, they drop support for their product as quick as they can.
I think they just lost another customer, no more Canon products of any type for me. 😝🤬🤬
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Yoga 920
    CPU
    Intel I7-8550U
    Motherboard
    n/a
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics UHD 620
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (SST)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Touch screen
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
I guess they supply the correct drivers for your cameras.
No. I have no special drivers loaded in my system.
All is done by the built-in USB-driver of Windows 11!

Long ago in Window 2000 it was neccessary to install the Fuji USB-driver, but I never install it on a new system anymore.
I bought the Fuji camera in 2004, but it's still functioning 100% and my wife is very content with it!
The driver that may have come with the Sony camera I don't install at all, don't even know if there was one with the camera.
Only on my (Android) tablet I have an app to wireless transfer files from the camera to the tablet.

What program do you use to transfer files from the camera to your system?
Just File Explorer or something special?
What do you see in File Explorer when you attach the USB cable to the camera?
Maybe there is some setting of your camera that causes the problem.
If I set the settings in the camera(s) wrong, I don't get a connection...

What model do you have?
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Kingston NV2 - 500 GB
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper H412R
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 115.7.0 ESR
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
No. I have no special drivers loaded in my system.
All is done by the built-in USB-driver of Windows 11!

Long ago in Window 2000 it was neccessary to install the Fuji USB-driver, but I never install it on a new system anymore.
I bought the Fuji camera in 2004, but it's still functioning 100% and my wife is very content with it!
The driver that may have come with the Sony camera I don't install at all, don't even know if there was one with the camera.
Only on my (Android) tablet I have an app to wireless transfer files from the camera to the tablet.

What program do you use to transfer files from the camera to your system?
Just File Explorer or something special?
What do you see in File Explorer when you attach the USB cable to the camera?
Maybe there is some setting of your camera that causes the problem.
If I set the settings in the camera(s) wrong, I don't get a connection...

What model do you have?
There is no settings and no programs, I just use file explorer to copy the files from the Camera.
The driver is provided by Microsoft windows as most of the other USB MTP devices. It was working fine till they changed the stupid driver from 10.1.22621.1 to 10.1.22621.2506 and higher a few weeks ago.
It should just show up as a removable device to access the files with explorer.
Now I have to jump through the hoops to get it to work. I found a workaround, but it is ridiculous.
It still works fine with Windows 11 Build 22621.1702. The bug was introduced later and fails the same way with all the recent builds including any insider build. For a detailed description take a look at this link below. I find many hits on the web for problems with Canon cameras, but not this specific one. Canon drops support to their devices as soon as they can, no difference with this one, they suck. 🤬🤬.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Yoga 920
    CPU
    Intel I7-8550U
    Motherboard
    n/a
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics UHD 620
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (SST)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Touch screen
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
There is no settings and no programs, I just use file explorer to copy the files from the Camera.
The driver is provided by Microsoft windows as most of the other USB MTP devices. It was working fine till they changed the stupid driver from 10.1.22621.1 to 10.1.22621.2506 and higher a few weeks ago.
It should just show up as a removable device to access the files with explorer.
Now I have to jump through the hoops to get it to work. I found a workaround, but it is ridiculous.
It still works fine with Windows 11 Build 22621.1702. The bug was introduced later and fails the same way with all the recent builds including any insider build. For a detailed description take a look at this link below. I find many hits on the web for problems with Canon cameras, but not this specific one. Canon drops support to their devices as soon as they can, no difference with this one, they suck. 🤬🤬.

What happens if you plug the camera in before booting Windows?
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5900X 12-core
    Motherboard
    X570 Aorus Xtreme
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Platinum RGB 3600MHz CL16
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    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
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    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
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    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Asus ROG Strix 1000W
    Case
    Corsair D750 Airflow
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Asus ROG Flare
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Here is a weird one, not just specific to this build, same problem with any build with latest updates.
MS updated the MTP USB Device drivers and now, when I connect my Canon camera to the USB for uploading the pictures, it doesn't work correctly anymore. 😵‍💫🤬
I have to use a workaround to bypass the bug. 😵‍💫🤬🤐
Anybody else with a similar issue?
See details on the link below.




Just block driver updates included in Windows Updates...

 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
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    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
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    300/300
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    Firefox (latest)
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    Bitdefender Internet Security
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    Onboard
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Just block driver updates included in Windows Updates...

That would not work, the MTP driver is built in windows system.
Same bug on all insider builds too.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Yoga 920
    CPU
    Intel I7-8550U
    Motherboard
    n/a
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics UHD 620
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (SST)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Touch screen
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
That would not work, the MTP driver is built in windows system.
Same bug on all insider builds too.



I have a Canon EOS Rebel T41.... it works.
It shows up in File Explorer, no problem. Pictures are there.

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Shows in Device Manager too...

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
I have a Canon EOS Rebel T41.... it works.
It shows up in File Explorer, no problem. Pictures are there.
Well, not this camera anymore 🤬 It works fine only with older Version of windows 11, not after they updated the MTP USB Device drivers.
Canon PowerShot A1200.

See this for details:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Yoga 920
    CPU
    Intel I7-8550U
    Motherboard
    n/a
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics UHD 620
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (SST)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Touch screen
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
Well, not this camera anymore 🤬 It works fine only with older Version of windows 11, not after they updated the MTP USB Device drivers.
Canon PowerShot A1200.

See this for details:


When I unhook the camera I don't see any MTP driver...


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I see this for driver version...

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I don't know if it matters, but I've totally removed WMP.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
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When I unhook the camera I don't see any MTP driver...


View attachment 81556


I see this for driver version...


I don't know if it matters, but I've totally removed WMP.
You show the correct driver for the camera.
How did you remove WMP? What is it used for? Windows media Player? How can that make a difference? 🤷‍♂️

B.T.W.
It still shows the camera driver when I disconnect if I show hidden devices. The problem comes back when I reconnect the camera and it shows MTP USB Device instead of the Camera driver. 😂
 

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You show the correct driver for the camera.
How did you remove WMP? What is it used for? Windows media Player? How can that make a difference? 🤷‍♂️


I removed WMP long ago, (nothing to do with camera). I just mentioned it, in case it was important.


MTP is part of the "Windows Media" framework and thus closely related to Windows Media Player. Versions of the Microsoft Windows operating system from Windows XP SP2 support MTP. Windows XP requires Windows Media Player 10 or higher;[3] later Windows versions have built-in support. Microsoft has made an MTP Porting Kit available for older versions of Windows, back to Windows 98.



Also... in case it matters... this is my camera...

Image1.png


Note: My $330 Samsung Galaxy A54 5G, takes much better pictures.
Canon = 12 MP
Samsung = 50 MP
Either that or I'm not operating the T4i properly. :-)
 
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The problem comes back when I reconnect the camera and it shows MTP USB Device instead of the Camera driver.



According to that MS link you posted... it only shows the MTP thing in Device Manager when the camera isn't connected.

In my Device Manager it never shows the MTP thing. It shows the camera or nothing.

With Show Hidden Devices check marked, I see this. And none of this stuff is connected at the moment...
Ah... those were all Ghost Devices. When I ran Device Cleanup Tool, they all went away.

Image1.png




Run Device Cleanup.exe in the x64 folder, as Admin, to clean the ghost devices from your Device Manager.
Select All and then... Remove Selected.
This scans 100% clean, locally and at Virustotal...

Any time you connect anything to your computer, and then disconnect it, it leaves a ghost entry in Device Manager. This tool removes all the ghost entries.

Ghost Devices don't cause any problems... but for the OCD types, this tool is a godsend. :cool:

 

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How did you remove WMP? What is it used for? Windows media Player? How can that make a difference?


I believe I used Method #2, and then manually searched for remnants...



I don't "know" if this has anything to do with the MTP fiasco. Like I mentioned above, I removed WMP long ago, just because it calls home too much. :-)



I use Foobar2000. It doesn't call home at all. I don't think it even has a phone. :D

Foobar2000.png
 

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According to that MS link you posted... it only shows the MTP thing in Device Manager when the camera isn't connected.

In my Device Manager it never shows the MTP thing. It shows the camera or nothing.

With Show Hidden Devices check marked, I see this. And none of this stuff is connected at the moment...
Ah... those were all Ghost Devices. When I ran Device Cleanup Tool, they all went away.

View attachment 81566




Run Device Cleanup.exe in the x64 folder, as Admin, to clean the ghost devices from your Device Manager.
Select All and then... Remove Selected.
This scans 100% clean, locally and at Virustotal...

Any time you connect anything to your computer, and then disconnect it, it leaves a ghost entry in Device Manager. This tool removes all the ghost entries.

Ghost Devices don't cause any problems... but for the OCD types, this tool is a godsend. :cool:

No, you are missing the point. The problem is that it shows MTP USB Device even when the camera is connected, at that point it does not work.
In some machines it switches to the proper Camera driver after a long delay, on other machines it never switches until I click on "Scan for hardware changes" then the proper driver for the camera shows up and the camera is finally accessible. 😂😂🤬

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After "Scan for hardware changes" the driver switches to the correct one:
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I understand.
MY comp "never" shows MTP USB Device. It doesn't matter if the camera is connected or not.

I don't "know" anything about this stuff. You had asked if anyone had a Canon camera, and were things still working. So I checked... because I had a Canon camera. :-)



The "only" change I've noticed is that the Canon EOS Utility doesn't seem to work like it used to.
I have/had it set to download pics from the camera to a folder on my storage drive.

Now I can select all the pics, and tell it to download, and it makes a progress bar.
But the pics aren't going to my storage drive anymore. They don't seem to go... anywhere.

But... like the phone, I can grab the Canon pics from File Explorer.

I've been auto-saving my Camera pics to these folders for ten years. Now that doesn't work anymore.
The utility started saving everything to the 2017_06_25 folder, even though the dialog window claims it's saving them to a folder with the current date.

Now.... it don't even do that, even while it "says" it IS saving the pics to a folder on my storage drive.

Image1.png




Canon tech support = 800-652-2666
 
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I believe I used Method #2, and then manually searched for remnants...



I don't "know" if this has anything to do with the MTP fiasco. Like I mentioned above, I removed WMP long ago, just because it calls home too much. :-)



I use Foobar2000. It doesn't call home at all. I don't think it even has a phone. :D

View attachment 81573
I once remember seeing a documentary about a bunch of Hare Krishna (or similar) monks and disciples being interviewed by BBC Scotland TV who had all settled on a remote Scottish Island.

Whilst they were explaining they had settled there to escape modern life and technology so they could focus on communing with nature, suddenly the mobile phone of the lead monk rang. The camera crew fell about laughing and the looks on their faces was priceless.

The embarrased monk leader huffed and puffed trying to make out the phone was for emergencies, but by then all credibility was gone.

One thing did impress me though - the fact that you could get a mobile signal on this remote island LOL.
 

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I understand.
MY comp "never" shows MTP USB Device. It doesn't matter if the camera is connected or not.

I don't "know" anything about this stuff. You had asked if anyone had a Canon camera, and were things still working. So I checked... because I had a Canon camera. :-)



The "only" change I've noticed is that the Canon EOS Utility doesn't seem to work like it used to.
I have/had it set to download pics from the camera to a folder on my storage drive.

Now I can select all the pics, and tell it to download, and it makes a progress bar.
But the pics aren't going to my storage drive anymore. They don't seem to go... anywhere.

But... like the phone, I can grab the Canon pics from File Explorer.

I've been auto-saving my Camera pics to these folders for ten years. Now that doesn't work anymore.
When searching for my camera problem, I hit several posts about EOS camera problems caused by the MTP drivers.
My case is different, it just does not switch to the correct camera driver when the camera is connected, it shows the MTP driver instead.
The camera cannot be accessed till it loads the correct driver. 🤷‍♂️ Worked fine before they updated these drivers.

B.T.W. the WMP doesn't make any difference.
 

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