Looking for feedback on password managers


I have a script that starts and unlocks Keepass when I open Firefox so I never have to unlock it.
A question. Doesn't this negate the real reason for using a PW manager in the first place...security?
 

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My vault password is over 50 characters; not going to say how long for obvious reasons. I know the first x number of characters, and then 38 characters are generated by my Yubikey. :cool:
 

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A question. Doesn't this negate the real reason for using a PW manager in the first place...security?
It does knock you down a little, security-wise, but you still (hopefully) have different passwords for each site, so that would be good. It's more dangerous to have passwords auto-fill than to have your vault unlock, I would say.
 

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Oops. Sorry @TraderGary , you're now in place. @pseymour for the win. Waiting on someone else to knock me out of show.
 

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Doesn't this negate the real reason for using a PW manager in the first place...security?
I have Keepass set to lock the database within 240 seconds of user inactivity.
So it locks on it's own with four minutes of closing Firefox.
The script is only for Firefox as any other time I have to enter the master password plus the picture associated with the database to unlock it.
Keepass database is local to my PC only and is not in the cloud at all like other password managers.
All my passwords are different and are complex like this example: mcUzZ3^GO/u5=\W$Jhyw
 

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You take the prize over my 22 digit one. Do you use a passkey? I'm on the fence about it since I'm so accustomed to entering the master PW.
I can type my Master Password quickly and reliably and I too have yet to add a passkey for 1Password itself. I save all my site passkeys in 1Password.
 

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1Password is cloud-based just like LastPass.
To decrypt my cloud-based password vault requires knowing my Master Password. My Master Password is long and secure. I have no security concerns with my cloud-based 1Password vault.
 

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To decrypt my cloud-based password vault requires knowing my Master Password.
There are ways to do it without knowing the master password.
Anything that can be encrypted can be decrypted if you know how.
LastPass thought they were safe as well until multiple hacks.
That is when I decided cloud based it not a very good idea when it comes to your passwords.
 

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Not that anyone asked for it or wants to hear it, but being overly concerned by one of the major PW managers server being hacked is a non-starter IMO . Can those servers be hacked? Of course they can. Anything can be hacked. Protecting the master password with a passcode or 2fa can solve that. (For me 2fa is a pain so it's not my jam when it comes to my PW manager but I do have all critical financial sites protected with 2fa) In any shape or form, passwords are definitely safe in a password manager than on a notepad in your desk drawer, stuck to your wall with sticky notes, or stored in a word doc on your computer. (Yes they're safer in your head, but I'd like to see anyone remember over 200 individual paswords.)

There is no such thing as 100% safe computing. The only way one can be 100% safe is unplug your computer and never plug it back in. Instead, I choose to practice safe computing as best as I know how and as best as I understand it. I'm glad I am not one for paranoia or I would have been in the loony bin years ago. Chances are 99% of us have some of our info leaked to the dark web. I know I do as I was involved in a hospital breach a few years ago. Do I lose sleep over it? No I don't. I accept that computing in todays world comes with risks.
 

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Protecting the master password with a passcode or 2fa can solve that
Not really but my point was having something on a server is easier to obtain then something local on a persons PC.
2fa is not really as secure as people think.
 

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There are ways to do it without knowing the master password.
Nonsense.
Anything that can be encrypted can be decrypted if you know how.
Nonsense.
LastPass thought they were safe as well until multiple hacks.
That is when I decided cloud based it not a very good idea when it comes to your passwords.
Contrary to all the "click bait" paranoia, LastPass vaults were secure if your master password was secure.
 

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Exactly what one with limited knowledge would say.
I laugh at your ignorance.
Lowering yourself to personal attacks is not permitted on this forum.
 

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I laugh at your ignorance.
You may throw shade at me as well for saying it, but we do try be civil here. Each of us is entitled to his/her opinion. If you don't like or agree with what someone posts, either give polite rebuttals/opinions or ignore it and move on to the next post rather than be rude and insulting. You owe @TraderGary an apology.
The #1 rule of this forum is:
  1. Rudeness, insults, racial/hate slander, flaming, attacks, stalking, and trolling will not be tolerated.
 

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Each of us is entitled to his/her opinion. If you don't like or agree with what someone posts, either give polite rebuttals/opinions or ignore it and move on to the next post rather than be rude and insulting.
I quite agree, but answering "nonsense" to @KevTech when he gave his opinion was hardly a "polite rebuttal".
 

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nonsense.....was hardly a "polite rebuttal
You are correct. It could have been worded better, but I did not read that word as a direct insult to another member's intelligence, more like a disagreement in opinion that was not elaborated on. I only pointed it out because I do not want @KevTech to get banned. We all have to walk a fine line in what we say and the way we say it.
 

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