Microsoft says thank you Windows Insiders to help shape Windows 11

flashh4 · Oct 6, 2021

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dskiller · Oct 10, 2021

I think Microsoft head is full of air. They didn't listen to insider at all. If they did they wouldn't have released. 149 build as it had issue that's was reported to Microsoft that's been there sense windows 11 went beta. The amd issue has been there sense July. All the bugs have been there sense July. They didn't do shat for insider... They tell people way to fix windows 10 Taskbar problem is by uninstall certain update. But that update doesn't even exist for some people.

TigerTom · Oct 10, 2021

Brink said:
that brings you closer to what you love, empowering productivity and inspiring creativity

wait...they surely can't mean W11?? Or is the inspiring creativity referring to all the taskbar registry tweaks we are dealing with?

larc919 · Oct 10, 2021

They are blowing smoke! Windows Insiders seem to have had little or no real input into 11. We certainly didn't before it was released to us as a full-blown build that was essentially already in the beta stage instead of development. Maybe Microsoft has listened to us a bit regarding 11's bugs, but I don't think they have for much else. With some relatively minor corrections, the official release is pretty much the same as what we Insiders first got.

PerpetualCycle · Oct 10, 2021

Umm, the only thing they seemed to have listened to is their telemetry (and even that apparently selectively).

We are all just batteries.

Badger · Oct 10, 2021

geneo said:
Umm, the only thing they seemed to have listened to is their telemetry (and even that apparently selectively).

We are all just batteries.

Hey geneo, "You've got to pick up every stitch" is from an old Donovan tune. :) Been meaning to comment to you on that line. Guess I aged myself with that comment. lol

PerpetualCycle · Oct 10, 2021

Badger said:
Hey geneo, "You've got to pick up every stitch" is from an old Donovan tune. :) Been meaning to comment to you on that line. Guess I aged myself with that comment. lol

Indeed that is what I picked it up from "Season of the Witch". How does this age us. He's an old man now :scream:

ThrashZone · Oct 10, 2021

Hi,
The way 11 looks and operates I'd say ms not only didn't listen ms just slapped insiders down big time lol :lmao:

Badger · Oct 10, 2021

geneo said:
Indeed that is what I picked it up from "Season of the Witch". How does this age us. He's an old man now

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So am I. :)

Badger · Oct 10, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
The way 11 looks and operates I'd say ms not only didn't listen ms just slapped insiders down big time lol

I don't know about that since I'm really liking Windows 11! I definitely like it better then Windows 10. :)

cereberus · Oct 11, 2021

MS are like the people my dear old Gran used to say "There are none so blind as those who refuse to see".

BunnyJ · Oct 11, 2021

Let's face facts.. 11 is not geared toward everyday users and it's aimed at businesses who drove the buss on this version. For my use it's just fine since I don't modify or tweak the UI a single bit., just as in a business environment. But others will find it annoying. As time passes third party apps will come along to make it customizable.

ThrashZone · Oct 11, 2021

Badger said:
I don't know about that since I'm really liking Windows 11! I definitely like it better then Windows 10. :)

Hi,
Out of the box 10 needs fewer alteration so 11 this is 4 steps backwards

Explorer menus are one step back when ribbon is better icons are a sad joke insiders suggested this nonsense
Start menu is another almost 2 steps back which insiders suggested this nonsense
Context menus well they speak for themselves Show More again which insiders suggested this nonsense

Anyone not minding these silly changes only use browsers on 11 probably edge lol or desktop apps for all youtube/ twitter/ facebook/ instafame/.. which you could do all this on a cell phone sure don't needs 11 for this 10 did it too lol

Badger · Oct 11, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Out of the box 10 needs fewer alteration so 11 this is 4 steps backwards

Explorer menus are one step back when ribbon is better icons are a sad joke insiders suggested this nonsense
Start menu is another almost 2 steps back which insiders suggested this nonsense
Context menus well they speak for themselves Show More again which insiders suggested this nonsense

Anyone not minding these silly changes only use browsers on 11 probably edge lol or desktop apps for all youtube/ twitter/ facebook/ instafame/.. which you could do all this on a cell phone sure don't needs 11 for this 10 did it too lol

Tough crowd! Solution is easy, just stay with 10.

ThrashZone · Oct 11, 2021

Badger said:
Tough crowd! Solution is easy, just stay with 10.

Hi,
I don't use 10 that much except for oc benchmarks

The way I've installed 11 doubt it will last long anyway
No uefi/ gpt/ secure boot/ tpm breaking bad :lmao:

alkaufmann · Oct 11, 2021

It was fun, but at the end they told those with unsupported hardware to bugger off.

TraderGary · Oct 11, 2021

It was good to have fully supported hardware.

PerpetualCycle · Oct 11, 2021

BunnyJ said:
Let's face facts.. 11 is not geared toward everyday users and it's aimed at businesses who drove the buss on this version. For my use it's just fine since I don't modify or tweak the UI a single bit., just as in a business environment. But others will find it annoying. As time passes third party apps will come along to make it customizable.

Business user's have the same interest in having an efficient UI (in terms of using the Ui to get work done) as home users. Windows aa is less efficient to use than 10. So I don't completely buy into this argument. The UI is more like you would expect from a phone than a business workstation or laptop. Maybe it will evolve into something better , but I have my doubts.

Superfly · Oct 11, 2021

geneo said:
Business user's have the same interest in having an efficient UI (in terms of using the Ui to get work done) as home users. Windows aa is less efficient to use than 10. So I don't completely buy into this argument. The UI is more like you would expect from a phone than a business workstation or laptop. Maybe it will evolve into something better , but I have my doubts.

I agree... Windows 2000 was a proper business workstation (as far as I can remember)

Windows 11 is Win10X for Desktops. But I like it nevertheless.

BunnyJ · Oct 11, 2021

geneo said:
Business user's have the same interest in having an efficient UI (in terms of using the Ui to get work done) as home users. Windows aa is less efficient to use than 10. So I don't completely buy into this argument. The UI is more like you would expect from a phone than a business workstation or laptop. Maybe it will evolve into something better , but I have my doubts.

Businesses don't want their employees customizing the UI. They want a standard interface that will make it easy to maintain.