New Gaming pc stuttering


PenPusher

Member
Local time
11:28 AM
Posts
30
Location
Portsmouth, UK
OS
Windows 11 21H2
I have similar hardware to your's, but I only use 2 sticks of ram not 4, there have been some issues using all the ram slots.
Have you tried just 2 sticks?
The only problem I have is slight lag due to using a wireless bridge (900Mb/sec!!)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 21H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    My Self
    CPU
    Intel Alder lake i7 12700K
    Motherboard
    Asus z690 Gaming WiFi D4
    Memory
    32 Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 XMP
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1080 sc
    Sound Card
    Via Display port
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell S2417DG
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440 @ 165Hz G-Sync mode
    Hard Drives
    WD Black SN850 1Tb NVME, Samsung 970 Evo 500Gb NVME, Samsung 870 Qvo 1Tb SSD,
    Seagate ST2000DM001 2Gb
    PSU
    Corsair TX650v2
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass
    Cooling
    Be Quiet Shadow Rock 3
    Keyboard
    Logitech G Pro
    Mouse
    Logitech G903, Lightspeed + Powerplay Mat
    Internet Speed
    40Mb
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
    Other Info
    Logitech C930e webcam, Synology DS218 play 4Tb

Disk4mat

Member
Local time
3:28 AM
Posts
18
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Just thought I would post back with this information. My game started lagging again and I had no idea why. Someone on another forum suggested I install the DirectX package from MS and it not only fixed the problem, but I got increased FPS and the game performance is better than what I have ever seen. The package provides legacy support for older games/directx versions.

MS DirectX
The Microsoft DirectX® End-User Runtime installs a number of runtime libraries from the legacy DirectX SDK for some games that use D3DX9, D3DX10, D3DX11, XAudio 2.7, XInput 1.3, XACT, and/or Managed DirectX 1.1. Note that this package does not modify the DirectX Runtime installed on your Windows OS in any way.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8940
    CPU
    Intel I7-11700
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 gb
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 4K
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160

bobkn

Well-known member
Power User
VIP
Local time
6:28 AM
Posts
744
Location
Danbury, CT, USA
OS
Windows 11 22000.708
Just thought I would post back with this information. My game started lagging again and I had no idea why. Someone on another forum suggested I install the DirectX package from MS and it not only fixed the problem, but I got increased FPS and the game performance is better than what I have ever seen. The package provides legacy support for older games/directx versions.

MS DirectX

Thanks for the post.

I'm a little surprised. Some game installers may cause that package to be downloaded and installed automatically. It dates from June of 2010.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22000.708
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel I9-12900K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z690-A
    Memory
    64GB Kingston DDR5-5600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
    Sound Card
    none (USB to speakers), Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic XG320U
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @ 144Hz
    Hard Drives
    WB Black SN850 1TB M.2 NVME SSD
    Seagate Iron Wolf 8TB
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 1300 GT
    Case
    Corsair 5000D AIrflow
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler
    Internet Speed
    1200 Mbps
  • Operating System
    windows 11 22000.708
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus Tuf Gaming X570-Plus
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3800 (@ 3600)
    Graphics card(s)
    Zotac RTX 3080
    Sound Card
    built in Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus PA329C
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160
    Hard Drives
    Sabrent 1 TB PCI-E 4.0 X4 NVME M.2
    4 GB Seagate Ironwolf
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 850 G6
    Case
    Phanteks ENTHOO Pro M
    Cooling
    iCUE H115i RGB PRO XT Liquid CPU Cooler

Dru2

Well-known member
Power User
VIP
Local time
6:28 AM
Posts
1,854
Location
Virginia
OS
Windows 11 Pro 21H2 (22000.778)
Just thought I would post back with this information. My game started lagging again and I had no idea why. Someone on another forum suggested I install the DirectX package from MS and it not only fixed the problem, but I got increased FPS and the game performance is better than what I have ever seen. The package provides legacy support for older games/directx versions.

MS DirectX
Thanks. BTW games on Steam will automatically download DirectX Files as needed. But yes, always good to check DX files when issues arise (y)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 (22000.778)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, audiophile media center, work.
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro Dev build 22454.1000
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga X1
    CPU
    Intel i7-7600U
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16igg
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 620
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14.0 WQHD OLED Touch
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe Drive (OEM)
    PSU
    laptop
    Case
    laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop cooling
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Anywhere 2S
    Keyboard
    Laptop
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security

Disk4mat

Member
Local time
3:28 AM
Posts
18
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Thanks for the post.

I'm a little surprised. Some game installers may cause that package to be downloaded and installed automatically. It dates from June of 2010.

Thanks. BTW games on Steam will automatically download DirectX Files as needed. But yes, always good to check DX files when issues arise (y)
Im playing Unreal Tournament 2004. In our small community we havent seen an update or patch in years :D But it goes to show there may be a solution if you look in the right place.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8940
    CPU
    Intel I7-11700
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 gb
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 4K
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160

Dru2

Well-known member
Power User
VIP
Local time
6:28 AM
Posts
1,854
Location
Virginia
OS
Windows 11 Pro 21H2 (22000.778)
Im playing Unreal Tournament 2004. In our small community we havent seen an update or patch in years :D But it goes to show there may be a solution if you look in the right place.
Yeah, I have Unreal Tournament 3 Black Edition installed under Stream, and there are no recent patches. That said, if on a new build always make sure you get the latest redistributable DX files installed.

Good luck.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 (22000.778)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, audiophile media center, work.
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro Dev build 22454.1000
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga X1
    CPU
    Intel i7-7600U
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16igg
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 620
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14.0 WQHD OLED Touch
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe Drive (OEM)
    PSU
    laptop
    Case
    laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop cooling
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Anywhere 2S
    Keyboard
    Laptop
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security

meimeiriver

Member
Local time
12:28 PM
Posts
53
OS
Windows 11
I think you are having issues with the scheduling of tasks between the performance cores and the economy cores in your CPU.It's trying to run the game on the economy cores.Intel switched to this configuration to get temperatures and power consumption down and is known to cause issues.All I can suggest is go to your motherboards website and make sure your bios and chipset drivers are up to date.

My BIOS has an option (ScrollLock) to park the E-cores, de facto disabling/re-enabling them on the fly via your keyboard.

I doubt the issue is really the E-cores, though. Those E-cores kill your performance for equally paralleled tasks, like running x265, as then all threads are pulled down to the lowest common denominator (the speed and functionality of an E-core). Games are different, though, as many threads will do many things. Also, TDP for all these cores is officially still 125W, which is ridiculously low (internally, they allow more, though, up to 250W). But the point is, even if his 12700K hits a power limit, game won't just halt (as if it's throttling badly); he would just see the cores do less turbo-boost.

But stating the obvious, is the OP sure his CPU does indeed not throttle due to overheating? Even my own i9 12900K, with the best AiO water cooling I could find, can still get into the high 80C degrees.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i9 12900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z Royal Elite 2x32GB 4266Mhz Gold
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster ZxR
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 38"
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1600
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980/860 EVO/970 Pro
    PSU
    Dark Power 12 850W
    Case
    Phanteks Evolv X
    Cooling
    MSI Meg CoreLiquid S360
    Keyboard
    Roccat Vulcan 122 AIMO

bobkn

Well-known member
Power User
VIP
Local time
6:28 AM
Posts
744
Location
Danbury, CT, USA
OS
Windows 11 22000.708
(snip)

But stating the obvious, is the OP sure his CPU does indeed not throttle due to overheating? Even my own i9 12900K, with the best AiO water cooling I could find, can still get into the high 80C degrees.

How long does it take to get to "the high 80C degrees"?

I have a 12900k, not OC'd. Using the GPU-Z stress test, I don't think I've ever seen much above 75C for the CPU. On the other hand, I doubt that I've run it at 100% for more than 15 minutes. The coolant temperature of my AIO (Corsair iCUE H115i RGB Pro XT) doesn't increase more than a few degrees over that interval.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22000.708
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel I9-12900K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z690-A
    Memory
    64GB Kingston DDR5-5600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
    Sound Card
    none (USB to speakers), Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic XG320U
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @ 144Hz
    Hard Drives
    WB Black SN850 1TB M.2 NVME SSD
    Seagate Iron Wolf 8TB
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 1300 GT
    Case
    Corsair 5000D AIrflow
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler
    Internet Speed
    1200 Mbps
  • Operating System
    windows 11 22000.708
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus Tuf Gaming X570-Plus
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3800 (@ 3600)
    Graphics card(s)
    Zotac RTX 3080
    Sound Card
    built in Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus PA329C
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160
    Hard Drives
    Sabrent 1 TB PCI-E 4.0 X4 NVME M.2
    4 GB Seagate Ironwolf
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 850 G6
    Case
    Phanteks ENTHOO Pro M
    Cooling
    iCUE H115i RGB PRO XT Liquid CPU Cooler

meimeiriver

Member
Local time
12:28 PM
Posts
53
OS
Windows 11
How long does it take to get to "the high 80C degrees"?

I have a 12900k, not OC'd. Using the GPU-Z stress test, I don't think I've ever seen much above 75C for the CPU. On the other hand, I doubt that I've run it at 100% for more than 15 minutes. The coolant temperature of my AIO (Corsair iCUE H115i RGB Pro XT) doesn't increase more than a few degrees over that interval.

My i9 12900K isn't OC-ed either; but I did remove all powerlimits, and maxed out all assorted types of turbo boost durations. As a result, all P-Cores only (best for x265), I can run a sustained 4.9 Ghz clock speed across all cores, 100% load, 24/7. At that point, one or two cores may occassionally hit like 86C.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i9 12900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z Royal Elite 2x32GB 4266Mhz Gold
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster ZxR
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 38"
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1600
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980/860 EVO/970 Pro
    PSU
    Dark Power 12 850W
    Case
    Phanteks Evolv X
    Cooling
    MSI Meg CoreLiquid S360
    Keyboard
    Roccat Vulcan 122 AIMO

FastraX

New member
Thread Starter
Local time
11:28 AM
Posts
20
OS
windows 11
Just thought I would post back with this information. My game started lagging again and I had no idea why. Someone on another forum suggested I install the DirectX package from MS and it not only fixed the problem, but I got increased FPS and the game performance is better than what I have ever seen. The package provides legacy support for older games/directx versions.

MS DirectX
Can you confirm this is still the case and the game is no longer stuttering? I would like to possibly try this.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11

FastraX

New member
Thread Starter
Local time
11:28 AM
Posts
20
OS
windows 11
My BIOS has an option (ScrollLock) to park the E-cores, de facto disabling/re-enabling them on the fly via your keyboard.

I doubt the issue is really the E-cores, though. Those E-cores kill your performance for equally paralleled tasks, like running x265, as then all threads are pulled down to the lowest common denominator (the speed and functionality of an E-core). Games are different, though, as many threads will do many things. Also, TDP for all these cores is officially still 125W, which is ridiculously low (internally, they allow more, though, up to 250W). But the point is, even if his 12700K hits a power limit, game won't just halt (as if it's throttling badly); he would just see the cores do less turbo-boost.

But stating the obvious, is the OP sure his CPU does indeed not throttle due to overheating? Even my own i9 12900K, with the best AiO water cooling I could find, can still get into the high 80C degrees.
CPU does not overheat mate it can have this issue right off the bat, from cold start. Every raid is different. Some smooth some bad :/
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11

clam1952

Well-known member
Power User
VIP
Local time
11:28 AM
Posts
449
Location
Crewe, Cheshire, UK
OS
Windows 11 22H2 OS Build 22621.160

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 OS Build 22621.160
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME B350-PLUS
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @3000Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS - GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC
    Sound Card
    On Board Realtec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer KA241
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    240GB PNY CS900 SSD - OS
    2 x 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD
    1 x 500GB Crucial MX300 SSD
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001-1ER164
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM008-2FR102
    4TB Seagate ST4000DM000-1F2168
    PSU
    750 Watt Corsair TX750 Plus
    Case
    Cooler Master 690 III
    Cooling
    Akasa AK98 5 Case Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270 - wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech - M185 wireless
    Internet Speed
    BT Fibre 75 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Use hardware KVM to switch monitors on three PCs and software (input director) to use mouse and keyboard on all 4 PCs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2 build 22161.105
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 3881 - modified with SFX PSU fitted internally
    CPU
    Intel i5 - 10400
    Motherboard
    Dell 032w55 version A00
    Memory
    16GB of HyperX Fury @ 2133 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 6GB GTX 1060.
    Sound Card
    Builtin
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER KA241
    Screen Resolution
    1920x 1080 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    256GB SK hynix NVMe
    1TB Western Digital WD10EZEX-75WN4A1
    PSU
    Modular 450 Watt Corsair SF450 Platinum ( Mod to replace the Dell 265 Watt PSU)
    Case
    Inspiron Small Desktop
    Cooling
    Dell stock cooler
    Mouse
    Dell
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    BT Fibre 75 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Use hardware KVM to switch monitors on three PCs and software (input director) to use mouse and keyboard on all 4 PCs.

Disk4mat

Member
Local time
3:28 AM
Posts
18
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Can you confirm this is still the case and the game is no longer stuttering? I would like to possibly try this.
Still working. Definitely fixed the client side lag.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8940
    CPU
    Intel I7-11700
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 gb
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 4K
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160

FastraX

New member
Thread Starter
Local time
11:28 AM
Posts
20
OS
windows 11
issue is now fixed with the latest update one of the specific patch notes were "Visualisation accuracy of the position of other players" seems to be 100% fixed now i can play with uncapped FPS. where as previous to this "patch" i had to cap fps to 70 for it to be "playabale" still wasnt perfect though.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
Top Bottom