New Version of ExplorerPatcher

Spartan · Feb 17, 2023

Rosmano said:
From what I understand reading this, ExplorerPatcher uses Windows own Start menu.
So Microsoft must've broken something, since it is an unsupported menu it probably won't be fixed.

I checked Start11, but their menu doesn't have Live tiles (and since they've never mentioned they'll add it I doubt they will) and StartAllBack doesn't have the Windows 10 menu. Ah well. Guess I'll have to live with the subpar Start11 menu now.

That's why I use Start11 from Stardock, it gives you the option to choose between the Windows 7, 10, or 11 Start menu

Here's mine on Windows 11:

Rosmano · Feb 17, 2023

Yes , I settled on that as well.

Rimole · Feb 17, 2023

At Redirecting the last reply (from grygorius at March 10, 2022) says: " the tall setting of this project's resulting (Win10) TaskBar (3-line Time/Calendar) ". Where can I find that "tall setting" of the Explorer Patcher, please?

Marocco2 · Feb 17, 2023

Spartan said:
That's why I use Start11 from Stardock, it gives you the option to choose between the Windows 7, 10, or 11 Start menu

Here's mine on Windows 11:

View attachment 53029

Except live tiles. Plus it's heavier than native W10 Start Menu

Edwin · Feb 17, 2023

The W11 Menu is a p•i•t•a!
Just a clean, narrow list..., is that too much to ask!?

Steerpike · Feb 17, 2023

Edwin said:
The W11 Menu is a p•i•t•a!
Just a clean, narrow list..., is that too much to ask!?

View attachment 53048

I give you: ... :)

Just kidding, really, but I'm slowly coming to terms with win11 native start. With the latest ability to group apps into a 'folder', to re-arrange app position, and to dedicate more space to apps / less to recommendations, I'm finding it 'not bad'. Also - I've slowly - ever since Win 7, which is still the 'gold standard' in terms of 'start' - been transitioning away from 'desktop' and 'start menu' shortcuts, towards a) pinning most-used apps to the taskbar, and b) using the 'search' feature to find all the other apps (that is - hit 'start', then type 'w' and WhatsApp, Word, etc will all be revealed). I wish MS wouldn't screw with this stuff, but I'm now in love with pinned apps on the taskbar, whereas I refused to even try it initially!

Edwin · Feb 17, 2023

Steerpike said:
I give you: ... :)

cbiweb · Feb 17, 2023

Sorry if this has been answered previously, but there are so many pages/posts to look through. :)

Today I finally upgraded to 22H2, and I see that the Start Menu is back to the W11 style, which I simply don't like. I also don't see a setting in Explorer Patcher to change it to the Win10 style, which I simply DO like.

Is the menu something that can no longer be tweaked with EP? I'll be a sad puppy if that's the case.

OAT · Feb 17, 2023

Explorer patcher is no longer maintained it seems -sadly-
Last update was 3 months ago.
I am afraid a sad puppy we have.

cbiweb · Feb 17, 2023

OAT said:
Explorer patcher is no longer maintained it seems -sadly-
Last update was 3 months ago.
I am afraid a sad puppy we have.

Bummer. I may need to just use the default 11 taskbar and adapt to its errant ways. Kinda knew this day would come, but it's always too soon.

Fredrik · Feb 17, 2023

OAT said:
Explorer patcher is no longer maintained it seems -sadly-
Last update was 3 months ago.
I am afraid a sad puppy we have.

As long as you can cope with the Win11 start menu, EP still works well for the taskbar (which is the most important if you ask me).
OBS I am talking about the EP preview version, 22621.819.52.2. That is the one to use.

cbiweb · Feb 17, 2023

Fredrik said:
As long as you can cope with the Win11 start menu, EP still works well for the taskbar (which is the most important if you ask me).
OBS I am talking about the EP preview version, 22621.819.52.2. That is the one to use.

I agree the taskbar is more important to me than the start menu. But I will miss the Win10 style menu. Hopefully the taskbar will continue to work for a long time to come.

EnvioX · Feb 17, 2023

i just use this software, small taskbar + old taskbar only

with this. i can run t-clock....

ty developers

Spartan · Feb 18, 2023

OAT said:
Explorer patcher is no longer maintained it seems -sadly-
Last update was 3 months ago.
I am afraid a sad puppy we have.

I knew this was coming. the project was maintained by a single person having to battle with the constant changes of Windows builds every few weeks. I stopped using it long ago after having endless Explorer.exe crashes which only occur when it's installed.

Stigg · Feb 18, 2023

Spartan said:
That's why I use Start11 from Stardock, it gives you the option to choose between the Windows 7, 10, or 11 Start menu

Here's mine on Windows 11:

View attachment 53029

You also have the option to use either the Start11 menu or the Windows 11 menu.
You can use either one.

Spartan · Feb 18, 2023

Stigg said:
You also have the option to use either the Start11 menu or the Windows 11 menu.
You can use either one.

To be honest, the most important thing for me is being able to ungroup taskbar items of open folders. I can't stand that grouped look where you have to click on file explorer then another click to select the open folder that you want but I will not touch ExplorerPatcher again as it's too buggy.

Stigg · Feb 18, 2023

Spartan said:
To be honest, the most important thing for me is being able to ungroup taskbar items of open folders. I can't stand that grouped look where you have to click on file explorer then another click to select the open folder that you want but I will not touch ExplorerPatcher again as it's too buggy.

For ExplorerPatcher fans, I personally think that StartAllBack is a better option, and more likely to be supported into the future.

Rosmano · Feb 18, 2023

Maybe, but the developer of Startallback won't make W10 Start Menu option.

EnvioX · Feb 18, 2023

Stigg said:
For ExplorerPatcher fans, I personally think that StartAllBack is a better option, and more likely to be supported into the future.

can it make t-clock visible ?
all i need only make taskbar smaller and t-clock run on taskbar

Try3 · Feb 18, 2023

OAT said:
Last update was 3 months ago.

~~So what?~~

OAT said:
Explorer patcher is no longer maintained it seems -sadly-

What makes you think that?
There's nothing on the project's GitHub page or the author's profile page to indicate that it is no longer being developed or maintained.

Valinet issued a statement about future development, that I find a bit confusing, that confirms that he won't be publishing updated EP versions on GitHub but will keep developing the tool.
Public forums closure - Discussion #1068 - valinet_ExplorerPatcher - GitHub

All the best,
Denis