OS installed Page file on both HDD and NVMe drive

pparks1 · Dec 20, 2022

I have 32GB of memory on my work laptop, and still have some virtual memory in use.

johnlgalt · Dec 21, 2022

Dru2 said:
Was going to ask why so high till I saw you're running 128gig of RAM. Nice system BTW

Thanks! A worth upgrade from the Core i7 965 EE lol!

I'm already planning a new system for 2023. Not waiting 9-11 years for my next upgrade....

Dru2 · Dec 21, 2022

I plan on doing a new build next year. It won't be an AMD system as I only do Intel. Do only use AMD GPUs though.

pparks1 · Dec 21, 2022

Dru2 said:
I plan on doing a new build next year. It won't be an AMD system as I only do Intel. Do only use AMD GPUs though.

Any particular reason you don't do AMD systems? I've flip flopped back and forth over the years. Have you have a previous bad experience with an AMD build?

johnlgalt · Dec 21, 2022

O/T:

I'm the opposite of Dru2 lol.

I don't do Intel CPUs anymore and I haven't done an AMD GPU ever (I did have an ATI GPU, though, way before they were brought under the AMD umbrella).

The Intel thing is more of a form of protest after their repeated shenanigans with the Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities (the shenanigans being their repeated lack of response to the original researchers that discovered it, plus a lack of acknowledgement of the vulnerabilities until well after the researchers went public with the info, coupled with their stellar lack of viable solutions for original gen Core i7 platforms, but including Sandy Bridge and newer *and* older Core2 platforms.

Dru2 · Dec 21, 2022

pparks1 said:
Any particular reason you don't do AMD systems? I've flip flopped back and forth over the years. Have you have a previous bad experience with an AMD build?

I've never used AMD. I just prefer Intel. I'm also brand loyal and tend to stay with what I know. Nothing against AMD, I just prefer Intel. It's the same with GPUs, I prefer AMD over NVidia. And like AMD CPU's, I've never owned a NVidia GPU.

And my post was more about what I'm building not fandom, and thus I won't be getting into the mines better than yours debate

johnlgalt · Dec 22, 2022

Rest assures, Dru, that pparks is not one to do that. Others may, but I don't he would.

Dru2 · Dec 22, 2022

johnlgalt said:
Rest assures, Dru, that pparks is not one to do that. Others may, but I don't he would.

It wasn't about him. And I know who pparks is as we've had plenty of discussions at the Seven, Eight, and Ten forums

And yes, others may, and why quashed it.

Peace

johnlgalt · Dec 22, 2022

Fair enough. I had forgotten a lot of those discussions, now that you mention it.

Good eye on others chiming in with fanboi noise though!

pparks1 · Dec 22, 2022

Dru2 said:
I've never used AMD. I just prefer Intel. I'm also brand loyal and tend to stay with what I know. Nothing against AMD, I just prefer Intel. It's the same with GPUs, I prefer AMD over NVidia. And like AMD CPU's, I've never owned a NVidia GPU.

And my post was more about what I'm building not fandom, and thus I won't be getting into the mines better than yours debate

Yeah, I was just curious. I understand brand preferences. i have mine too.

I'm not into the mine is better than yours debate. Too many factors to consider on what is 'best". performance, budget, upgradeability, power, heat, overclockability, etc.

Although my last few systems were AMD, if I were to build again this afternoon, I'd lean towards the 13th gen Intel. I think historically I'm about 50/50 on my builds.

I haven't had a card other than Nvidia since they were ATI Radeon's. Probably close to 20 years ago now. I think my last one was an ATI Radeon 9700Pro. Reason I moved away is that driver support in Linux was pretty lousy and I used Linux enough to care. Been steadfast with EVGA ever since...but now not sure which brand I would go with since EVGA is out of the game for GPU's.

Scott · Dec 22, 2022

My first few builds were AMD/ATI. Started noticing how hot the AMD cpu's started running. Idling at 50C is unacceptable to me. Switched over to Intel/Nvidia, and right now all 6 cores are idling under 25C.

Dru2 · Dec 22, 2022

pparks1 said:
Yeah, I was just curious. I understand brand preferences. i have mine too.

I'm not into the mine is better than yours debate. Too many factors to consider on what is 'best". performance, budget, upgradeability, power, heat, overclockability, etc.

Although my last few systems were AMD, if I were to build again this afternoon, I'd lean towards the 13th gen Intel. I think historically I'm about 50/50 on my builds.

I haven't had a card other than Nvidia since they were ATI Radeon's. Probably close to 20 years ago now. I think my last one was an ATI Radeon 9700Pro. Reason I moved away is that driver support in Linux was pretty lousy and I used Linux enough to care. Been steadfast with EVGA ever since...but now not sure which brand I would go with since EVGA is out of the game for GPU's.

I was a 3dfx user, but once NVidia bought them out, I moved to ATI (now AMD), and simply never looked back. Also, as a photographer, I'm rather use to the colors AMD produces, so I'd rather stay there.

And for the record, I'm not saying AMD's colors are better or NVidia's is worse. If anyone's ever shot film, they'd know Kodak tended to produce warmer colors (reds, yellows) where Fuji, tended to produce cooler colors (blues, greens) so it depended on what you wanted as to which film you might use. I favor warmer colors. Anyway, there was a big discussion on this some years back, where some felt NVidia tended to produce cooler colors, but I've no idea where I saw that info now. I just know for me it's about consistency, and I know what AMD does being I've been with them from the beginning. That's why AMD GPUs.

As for Intel, when I first got into computers (1998) AMD was also competing with Intel back then, but most everyone I knew was using Intel, even the person who built my first PC for me advised Intel, so I went with them and never looked back.

Consistency and comfort are why I buy what I buy. I've been with these brands since getting into computers. Same goes for Western Digital (HDD). I'm also loyal to Samsung (SSD), Corsair (RAM), and Epson (printers). My last 5 motherboards (over a 13-year span) have been Gigabyte. That's me.

pparks1 · Dec 22, 2022

Dru2 said:
Consistency and comfort are why I buy what I buy. I've been with these brands since getting into computers. Same goes for Western Digital (HDD). I'm also loyal to Samsung (SSD), Corsair (RAM), and Epson (printers). My last 5 motherboards (over a 13-year span) have been Gigabyte. That's me.

Yep, mobos for me are always Asus or Gigabyte. GPU's always EVGA. Power Supplies always Seasonic or Corsair. Memory is always G.Skill. SSD's usually WD, Samsung, with an occasional sandisk in there for testing/cheaper purposes but compatible with WD utility. Cases always coolermaster, Antec or Fractal.

pparks1 · Dec 22, 2022

Dru2 said:
It wasn't about him. And I know who pparks is as we've had plenty of discussions at the Seven, Eight, and Ten forums

I didn't remember your name from the past, I assume you must have had a different forum name in the past.

Dru2 · Dec 22, 2022

pparks1 said:
I didn't remember your name from the past, I assume you must have had a different forum name in the past.

I pretty much thought most here knew I used to be sygnus21.

pparks1 · Dec 22, 2022

Dru2 said:
I pretty much thought most here knew I used to be sygnus21.

Ah okay, I don't usually get too personal on the forums, so I didn't catch that change. Glad to see you are still around.

Consider me informed now.

Dru2 · Dec 22, 2022

pparks1 said:
Glad to see you are still around.

pparks1 said:
Consider me informed now.

Is that in a good or bad way

johnlgalt · Dec 23, 2022

I can relate to brand loyalty as well.

The current rig is my first AMD CPU-based build, and again, due to me not being happy with Intel's shenanigans. My move to NVidia (have having used the old ATI AGP card, and Diamond before that, was simply because of stability in Linux as well, it just worked better (not by much in old days - but it did work lol).

All my video cards since my 8800GTS from 2008 have been from eVGA (except for a GTX 250 from PNY that I got for free). I'm gonna miss that for sure, though I should not need a new card for a while, the current one should hold me over for a couple of years at least.

Also, I did not realize you were sygnus21 either - but I'm like pparks - I don't get too in depth with people on forums, mostly.

Mobos I've not had a lot of experience with, but my last 2 were eVGA, and before that I had a variety - Tyan, MSI, and ... some other brand, don't remember (not counting, of course, OEM mobos). When I was still using mechanical drives, I originally started with Conner, but when WD bought them up and I had entirely too many failures on both WDs and Hitachi, I started sticking to Seagate. Since SSDs, though, I've jumped around quite a bit - I've had Intel, SanDisk, Corsair, and more recently, Sabrent and Samsung.

I could go through the entire component list, but it'd be both long and boring. lol. Suffice it to say we all have our own little loyalties, and I choose mine based mostly upon my own experiences with any given company.

ThrashZone · Dec 23, 2022

Hi,
I still limit page file to 5gbs.

johnlgalt · Dec 26, 2022

Interesting. I've not tried limiting it in a very long time, even though I have the RAM to limit it. I just let the system handle it and it doesn't complain. If it were using anything stupidly high like 100 GB I might change my mind though.

And knowing Microsoft, I would not be surprised if an update one day does exactly that.....