PC Building NOW is Unaffordable.


most people I know build gaming computers, a few thousand at least if you start from scratch it's more. add the software (games/simulators) and we get over $5K and are still not getting the best. Just good enough to play.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win11i9-1390064 GBNvidia RTX 5070 TI OC
OS
Win11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Asus Home built
CPU
i9-13900
Motherboard
ASUS Strix Z790-H
Memory
64 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia RTX 5070 TI OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Sony 55"
Hard Drives
SSD
PSU
850 watt EVGA
Case
Cooler Master Haf 932
Cooling
CoolerMaster
Keyboard
RedDragon
Mouse
CoolerMaster
Internet Speed
300/300
Antivirus
Defender
Other Info
VR, Virtual Reality
Thankfully, I upgraded my main PC with a new CPU, motherboard and RAM not long before this catastrophe hit. Removed parts got handed down in turn to 3 other desktops (2 Insider). Here's hoping I'm fixed for the duration.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 ProIntel Core Ultra 265KTeamGroup T-Force Vulcan DDR5 6400MHz 32GBMSI GeForce RTX 3050
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Self Build
CPU
Intel Core Ultra 265K
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z890 AOROS Elite
Memory
TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan DDR5 6400MHz 32GB
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GeForce RTX 3050
Sound Card
GPU NVIDIA High Definition Audio via HDMI to Denon AVR-S670BT Receiver
Monitor(s) Displays
LG 32UN650 32" 4k
Screen Resolution
3840x2160 @ 60Hz (175% scaling)
Hard Drives
Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 1TB x2
PSU
Corsair RM850x
Case
be quiet! Pure Base 600
Cooling
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120SE & be quiet! Silent Wings Pro x3 case fans
Keyboard
Arteck Backlit USB Wired
Mouse
Logitech M510
Internet Speed
500Mb down/12Mb up
Browser
Firefox & Edge
Antivirus
Windows Defender & Free MBAM
Other Info
Main PC
I paid $259/ea for my Samsung SSD 990 EVO Plus 4TB drives that I have in external enclosures for my air-gap backup, they only went up to A$575, I expected them to be more.
One reason for it not going up as much is that it doesn't have a DRAM cache. That helps keep the production costs down.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProIntel Core i5-8279u32GB DDR4 2666MhzIntel Iris Plus 655
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.
  • At a glance

    Windows 10 ProRyzen 9 5900x64GB DDR4-3600EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.
First couple of minutes on Links with Friends. Companies are folding on product lines because RAM costs too much to continue.

 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
OS
WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
If you check motherboard bundles at the usual retailers they now only include mobo + cpu. No ram.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win7,Win11i7-97002x16gb 3600mhz
    OS
    Win7,Win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-9700
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x16gb 3600mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • At a glance

    win7,win11i5-84002x8gb 3200
    Operating System
    win7,win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
when ordering from China its best to do your home work.

example.
i was refurbishing my old second-hand Dell 13" laptop and it required a new battery
the manufacturer of Dell batteries is written on the old battery.

i found the web address of that manufacturer/supplier and ordered a battery for the Dell laptop direct from them
Dell wanted over £100 for a replacement battery, from the manufacturer/supplier in China that makes Dell's batteries £45
which included postage and packaging.

the only difference was no Dell logo on the battery. they battery is still working just fine.
with RAM and Drives i would look at the manufacturers/suppliers of the components within that system and then order direct
if the components are good enough for the main players to put into their systems then you improve your chances of buying reliable replacement components at a better price/cost. its just a matter of are you willing to do the foot work or not.

the main players have deserted the home computer upgrade market totally and it looks like China will be stepping into the worldwide gap the main players have vacated and doesn't look like the main players are coming back any time soon.

just my thoughts
best of luck Steve ..
There is someone that fixes old Dell laptops on YouTube. He says he has the largest supply of genuine Dell parts maybe in the world. You still have to depend upon Dell for newer laptops still in warranty. After the warranties end Dell generally sells the parts. He usually buys these pallets of parts directly from Dell.

You can always buy a Dell-compatible part online and take your chances. You have no way of knowing how well it will work or last. However, if you want a genuine OEM Dell part such as a battery you can buy it from him. He goes by Parts-People.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.6901)AMD Ryzen 7 6800H with Radeon 680M GPU (486MB...Crucial DDR5-4800 (2400MHz) 32GB (2 x 16GB)NVIDIA RTX 3060 Laptop (6GB RAM)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.6901)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS TUF Gaming A15 (2022)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800H with Radeon 680M GPU (486MB RAM)
    Memory
    Crucial DDR5-4800 (2400MHz) 32GB (2 x 16GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 3060 Laptop (6GB RAM)
    Sound Card
    n/a
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6-inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 300Hz
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung 990 Evo Plus (2TB M.2 NVME SSD)
    PSU
    n/a
    Mouse
    Wireless Mouse M510
    Internet Speed
    2100Mbps/300Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.8246)AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3DG.SKILL Flare X 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4ASUS ROG-STRIX-RTX3060TI-08G-V2-GAMING (RTX 3...
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.8246)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming WiFi II
    Memory
    G.SKILL Flare X 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-RTX3060TI-08G-V2-GAMING (RTX 3060-Ti, 8GB RAM)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung G50D IPS 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1440p/180Hz
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 990 EVO Plus (2TB] M.2 NVME SSD
    SAMSUNG 990 EVO Plus (4TB) M.2 NVME SSD
    PSU
    Corsair RM750x (750 watts)
    Case
    Cooler Master MasterCase 5
    Cooling
    Scythe Mugen 6
    Keyboard
    Logitech K520 (MK540 keyboard/mouse combo)
    Mouse
    Logitech M310 (MK540 keyboard/mouse combo)
    Internet Speed
    2100 Mbps down / 300 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge, Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes (Premium)
    Other Info
    ASUS Blu-ray Burner BW-16D1HT (SATA) || Western Digital Easystore 20TB USB 3.0 external hard drive used with Acronis True Image 2025 backup software || HP OfficeJet Pro 6975 Printer/Scanner
To show how bad it is I sometimes watch a YouTube channel where someone used to buy old laptops and sell them. He might buy a pallet of old laptops that used to be used by a company that bought new ones to replace them. The laptops used to come with a drive and RAM. Now the ones he gets have all of that removed beforehand.

Before this year he would upgrade the drives and RAM if needed and install a new copy of Windows. He could do that and still sell them for a profit. Now if he did that he would have to sell them at a loss.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.6901)AMD Ryzen 7 6800H with Radeon 680M GPU (486MB...Crucial DDR5-4800 (2400MHz) 32GB (2 x 16GB)NVIDIA RTX 3060 Laptop (6GB RAM)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.6901)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS TUF Gaming A15 (2022)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800H with Radeon 680M GPU (486MB RAM)
    Memory
    Crucial DDR5-4800 (2400MHz) 32GB (2 x 16GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 3060 Laptop (6GB RAM)
    Sound Card
    n/a
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6-inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 300Hz
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung 990 Evo Plus (2TB M.2 NVME SSD)
    PSU
    n/a
    Mouse
    Wireless Mouse M510
    Internet Speed
    2100Mbps/300Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.8246)AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3DG.SKILL Flare X 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4ASUS ROG-STRIX-RTX3060TI-08G-V2-GAMING (RTX 3...
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.8246)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming WiFi II
    Memory
    G.SKILL Flare X 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-RTX3060TI-08G-V2-GAMING (RTX 3060-Ti, 8GB RAM)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung G50D IPS 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1440p/180Hz
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 990 EVO Plus (2TB] M.2 NVME SSD
    SAMSUNG 990 EVO Plus (4TB) M.2 NVME SSD
    PSU
    Corsair RM750x (750 watts)
    Case
    Cooler Master MasterCase 5
    Cooling
    Scythe Mugen 6
    Keyboard
    Logitech K520 (MK540 keyboard/mouse combo)
    Mouse
    Logitech M310 (MK540 keyboard/mouse combo)
    Internet Speed
    2100 Mbps down / 300 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge, Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes (Premium)
    Other Info
    ASUS Blu-ray Burner BW-16D1HT (SATA) || Western Digital Easystore 20TB USB 3.0 external hard drive used with Acronis True Image 2025 backup software || HP OfficeJet Pro 6975 Printer/Scanner
But back then computer parts were so expensive that a person could only afford to build one.

I miss the days when a person could afford to build more than computer.

Today I have 3 desktop and 3 laptop computers. The newest is 4 years old. I hope these computers will get me by until I can afford to get a new one.
I put together my main and standby machine last year with all new parts except for a couple of SATA SSD drives that I salvaged from the ten year old machines. The prices were quite reasonable for all the new hardware. I even replaced the main display with an LG 45" wide curved monitor for $520, even those went up in price significantly. Now the parts I used are from 2x to 4x the price I paid for them just last spring not much more than a year ago!
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9278Intel Core i5 14500, 14th Generation64GB DDR4GeForce RTX 4060
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9278
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500, 14th Generation
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear & Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440 & 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168Intel Core i5 1440032GB DDR5Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Nimo N171 17" Laptop, (Intel i3-1215U, 16GB RAM, 2TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    Acemagic Vista Mini PC V1 (Intel N150, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    HP ENVY h8-1540t, (24GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 2TB HDD, Win11 Pro)
I did the math on my PC. I spent about $2500 CAD a few years ago, now it is worth about $5200 CAD at current RAM prices.

That does not include the 5070 Ti that I was going to buy but now can't afford. In that case the cost is over $7000 CAD.

Yikes!
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 11 Pro 25H2Intel i7 13700KF32 GB Team Group DDR5 - 6000 CL 30ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
OS
Win 11 Pro 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Self build
CPU
Intel i7 13700KF
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z790 UD AC
Memory
32 GB Team Group DDR5 - 6000 CL 30
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
Sound Card
On board Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
ACER 34 inch
Screen Resolution
Not 4K like I thought. 35" wide though.
Hard Drives
1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
PSU
EVGA 1000Q
Case
Rosewill something or other
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
Keyboard
Logitech G815
Mouse
Logitech G502 Hero
Internet Speed
700 up, 600 down
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
MalwareBytes

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