Solved Re all the weeping over local user accounts...


Notice that O&O ShutUp10++ is now MUCH larger to reign things in where possible
Version 2.0.1009, File size 75MB.
Released on: 10/14/2025

It's only larger so that it has all the .NET framework that it needs with it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.8457)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Pre-built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI Pro B650-VC WiFi
    Memory
    32gb Team Group (T-Force) DDR5-6000
    Graphics Card(s)
    Zotac nVidia GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER - 12gb
    Sound Card
    Sound BlasterX G6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Koorui G2421V and ViewSonic VX2453
    Screen Resolution
    P:2560x1440 S:1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN5000 - 500gb NVME
    WD Blue SN580 - 2TB NVME
    Seagate 4TB HDD - ST4000VN008-2DR166
    Keyboard
    Mountain Everest
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    T-Mobile Home Internet
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    QNAP TS-469 Pro NAS
    TP-Link W7200 (2 unit mesh network)
    Elgato Streamdeck
@Winuser
I think many of us have fond memories of that era when the Internet was so young, new, and exciting as it evolved as a new frontier. The sounds of modems negotiating before . . . . . . CONNECTED.
14.4K, 28.8K, 56K, ADSL, CABLE, and for some fiber!
Now truly fast broadband, and decent WIFI.
:-)
I was already using 2Mb sysmetrical broadband.... ;-)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    My Self
    CPU
    Intel Alder lake i7 12700K
    Motherboard
    Asus z690 Gaming WiFi D4, Bios Ver 4505
    Memory
    32 Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 XMP2
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 3070ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming & Intel Arc
    Sound Card
    Via Display port
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell AW2723DF
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440 @ 280Hz G-Sync mode
    Hard Drives
    WD Black SN850 1Tb NVME (Boot Drive)
    WD BLACK SN850X + Heatsink 1Tb NVME
    Samsung 870 Qvo 1Tb SSD,
    Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-219L
    WD Black SN850x NVME 2Tb x3
    PSU
    Corsair RM850
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass
    Cooling
    Be Quiet Shadow Rock 3
    Keyboard
    Logitech G Pro
    Mouse
    Logitech G903, Lightspeed + Powerplay Mat
    Internet Speed
    900Mb/900Mb Fritz!Box 7590ax v2
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
    Other Info
    Logitech C930e webcam
    Synology DS218 play 2 x 4Tb Synology HAT3300-4T
I was already using 2Mb sysmetrical broadband.... ;-)
@PenPusher Yes, in the 90's I remember calling the phone company and asking if they had Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line available yet?
I was transferred through about 10 different levels of people. Ultimately, the 10th guy was amused that I knew what it was, and wanted to know how I knew about it. At the time there was a loop line length limitation from the nearest central office. I can't remember the distance, though I think initially it was something like 10,000 ft. The further away, the weaker the signal, the less speed etc. When I moved downtown, my signal was as if I lived at the phone company. Being always connected back in the 90's when many were still using dial-up definitely felt like a privilege. Those old Cisco 675 ADSL modems . . . HA! The memories . . .
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (OS Build 26200.8246)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Precision Mobile Workstation
    CPU
    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1535M v5 @ 2.90 Max Turbo 3.80
    Motherboard
    00V5FJ
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 ECC (Error-Correcting Code memory)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro M2000M 4GB GDDR5 & Intel(R) HD Graphics P530
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K UltraHD
    Screen Resolution
    4K UHD 3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB Crucial NVMe & 2TB Seagate SATA
    PSU
    Dell 180W 19.5V-9.23A
    Keyboard
    Backlit
    Mouse
    Logitech G703 & Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    WIFI: Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6E AX210NGW(Gig+) 160MHz Bands 2.4GHz(574Mbps), 5GHz 2.4Gbps, 6 GHz (160MHz) 2.4Gbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security + additional Anti Spyware, Anti Malware, etc.
    Other Info
    Thunderbolt 3
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (OS Build 26100.6725)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Precision Workstation T5610
    CPU
    Dual (X2) Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 0 @ 2.90GHz Max Turbo 3.80
    Motherboard
    0WN7Y6
    Memory
    64GB DDR3 ECC (Error-Correcting Code memory)
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB of GDDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio & NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 Acer Monitors
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2 Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM008-2UB102 (RAID)
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
I retired 15 years ago from public works. Took a 8 months break then went back as a seasonal worker.
The trick is to stay busy and keep moving. I'm surprise how much just building a PC can involve going up and down stairs, lifting, turning, reaching, etc. Many times I used to think my PC building days are about over and then something new comes up or I get a knock on the door from someone asking if I can fix something. I also do volunteer work for my community so this is enough to keep me running. :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
The trick is to stay busy and keep moving. I'm surprise how much just building a PC can involve going up and down stairs, lifting, turning, reaching, etc. Many times I used to think my PC building days are about over and then something new comes up or I get a knock on the door from someone asking if I can fix something. I also do volunteer work for my community so this is enough to keep me running. :)
I retired early. 35 years of hauling backpacks full of laptops to and from customer's homes and businesses left me in very good shape for my age. I still like to fix things, too, but my days are mostly filled by getting stoned and playing video games now. To compensate, I still lug a backpack with about 20 pounds of laptop and related gear around, including my multi-tester and laptop repair kit about 10 miles a day. Instead of staying home, I go to coffee shops, and sometimes end up making a little extra cash helping random people with their computer problems, but doing it for a living no longer appeals to me. It's somehow always your fault when a customer breaks their system...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 Pro (X-lite Micro 11 version)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell/ Precision 7680
    CPU
    i7 13850HX (20 cores, 28 threads)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD/ RTX 1000 ADA
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4K UHD Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 512GB system drive
    WD Blue 1TB game drive
    PSU
    240W AC adapter, 1800W when docked
    Internet Speed
    1 gigabit symmetrical
    Browser
    Firefox, Librewolf
    Antivirus
    None. Manully configured so nobody except me can change any critical system files. (Don't ask how, it's probably against some rule somewhere)
The trick is to stay busy and keep moving. I'm surprise how much just building a PC can involve going up and down stairs, lifting, turning, reaching, etc. Many times I used to think my PC building days are about over and then something new comes up or I get a knock on the door from someone asking if I can fix something. I also do volunteer work for my community so this is enough to keep me running. :)
You forgot one very important muscle that also gets a work out. You're keeping you mind active. :-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
    Screen Resolution
    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Webroot SecureAnywhere CE 26.1
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-A
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I'm basically semi-retired (no longer working in an office, but getting paid to take care of my partner) and I stream so my mind stays active.

The body however, well...... :P
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.8457)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Pre-built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI Pro B650-VC WiFi
    Memory
    32gb Team Group (T-Force) DDR5-6000
    Graphics Card(s)
    Zotac nVidia GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER - 12gb
    Sound Card
    Sound BlasterX G6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Koorui G2421V and ViewSonic VX2453
    Screen Resolution
    P:2560x1440 S:1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN5000 - 500gb NVME
    WD Blue SN580 - 2TB NVME
    Seagate 4TB HDD - ST4000VN008-2DR166
    Keyboard
    Mountain Everest
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    T-Mobile Home Internet
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    QNAP TS-469 Pro NAS
    TP-Link W7200 (2 unit mesh network)
    Elgato Streamdeck
The body however, well...... :P
Winter time is my downfall. I'm an outside type of person but the older I get the more the cold temps makes my body hurt.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
    Screen Resolution
    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Webroot SecureAnywhere CE 26.1
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-A
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
When somebody says he/she doesn't want to log in with a Microsoft account, I always wait for a logical reason. I've been logging into Windows on all my computers with a Microsoft account for years and have never experienced even a hint of a problem because of it.
The reason doesn't make any difference. :eek1: The only thing that matters is that it should be my choice whether to use a Microsoft account or a local one.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.6901)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS TUF Gaming A15 (2022)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800H with Radeon 680M GPU (486MB RAM)
    Memory
    Crucial DDR5-4800 (2400MHz) 32GB (2 x 16GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 3060 Laptop (6GB RAM)
    Sound Card
    n/a
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6-inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 300Hz
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung 990 Evo Plus (2TB M.2 NVME SSD)
    PSU
    n/a
    Mouse
    Wireless Mouse M510
    Internet Speed
    2100Mbps/300Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (26200.8246)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming WiFi II
    Memory
    G.SKILL Flare X 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-RTX3060TI-08G-V2-GAMING (RTX 3060-Ti, 8GB RAM)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung G50D IPS 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1440p/180Hz
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 990 EVO Plus (2TB] M.2 NVME SSD
    SAMSUNG 990 EVO Plus (4TB) M.2 NVME SSD
    PSU
    Corsair RM750x (750 watts)
    Case
    Cooler Master MasterCase 5
    Cooling
    Scythe Mugen 6
    Keyboard
    Logitech K520 (MK540 keyboard/mouse combo)
    Mouse
    Logitech M310 (MK540 keyboard/mouse combo)
    Internet Speed
    2100 Mbps down / 300 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge, Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes (Premium)
    Other Info
    ASUS Blu-ray Burner BW-16D1HT (SATA) || Western Digital Easystore 20TB USB 3.0 external hard drive used with Acronis True Image 2025 backup software || HP OfficeJet Pro 6975 Printer/Scanner
The reason doesn't make any difference. :eek1: The only thing that matters is that it should be my choice whether to use a Microsoft account or a local one.
@MisterEd I agree with you 100%. No one owes anyone a reason why they choose to not want to have to setup and provide a Microsoft account for their own PC. No one owes anyone a reason whether they're enlightened enough to comprehend your logic or not. (y) ;-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (OS Build 26200.8246)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Precision Mobile Workstation
    CPU
    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1535M v5 @ 2.90 Max Turbo 3.80
    Motherboard
    00V5FJ
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 ECC (Error-Correcting Code memory)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro M2000M 4GB GDDR5 & Intel(R) HD Graphics P530
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K UltraHD
    Screen Resolution
    4K UHD 3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB Crucial NVMe & 2TB Seagate SATA
    PSU
    Dell 180W 19.5V-9.23A
    Keyboard
    Backlit
    Mouse
    Logitech G703 & Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    WIFI: Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6E AX210NGW(Gig+) 160MHz Bands 2.4GHz(574Mbps), 5GHz 2.4Gbps, 6 GHz (160MHz) 2.4Gbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security + additional Anti Spyware, Anti Malware, etc.
    Other Info
    Thunderbolt 3
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (OS Build 26100.6725)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Precision Workstation T5610
    CPU
    Dual (X2) Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 0 @ 2.90GHz Max Turbo 3.80
    Motherboard
    0WN7Y6
    Memory
    64GB DDR3 ECC (Error-Correcting Code memory)
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB of GDDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio & NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 Acer Monitors
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2 Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM008-2UB102 (RAID)
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
I could provide dozens of reasons why a local account could be a wiser choice for most users but every one of them can be disputed. For that matter, there is nothing that can't be disputed. Even facts can be disputed. I'm quite sure more regular followers of this forum are well acquainted with my redundant claim that user preference prevails.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.

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