Realtek Audio is a mess. Why did they have to break it?


On my System Two, when I plugged a speaker into my motherboard the Realtek HD Audio Manager software "magically" installed itself. And it came with the enhancements talked about in this thread.

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That's awesome! Yes, I would love to have that on my rig! Why can't I have nice things? Is it because I went with AMD? It does seem like Intel rigs have the better sound options? Conspiracy?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 7700X
    Motherboard
    Asrock X670E PG Lightning
    Memory
    GSkill 32GB DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 3080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial NVME
    PSU
    Rosewill 1200W
    Case
    Rosewill Thor Full ATX
    Cooling
    Air - Super Large Dual Heatsink / Fan

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
If I'd buy a new computer today, I'd go with a high end Asus motherboard. They're mostly reliable, has high end components and high end audio components. All new MBs has some early adoption issues in the UEFI firmware, but usually Asus fixes the issues pretty fast. AMD or Intel does not really matter. Whichever suits my needs better at the moment.

If I needed really high end audio gear, I'd go look for some external audio cards.

Anyways, most audio effect presets are total garbage...I rarely use anything beyond high bitrate settings because I need it for audio production...
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
Hi,
Yeah installing realtek driver console from ms store, why is this a realtek issue and not ms issue being in the store it should be certified by ms right lol
I never had issue in general with realtek driver until ms overly complicated the driver process for realtek console, about the most important part of the driver and it's likely just about UI changes :eyeroll:

Either way I finally got console installed on win-10 and 11 and haven't had any issues except for having to get it from the stupid ms store to get console for the equalizer to adjust and save profiles.
Only surprise is on win-10 on my x299 rig asus realtek driver installed like it does on win-7 with the console in action center area for quick access so I didn't have to get it from the ms store :party:

Odd thing is on windows 11 best I can do is pin the console to taskbar same on my z490 rig for 11 and 10 so go figure :shush:
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I have intel nic.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro
That's awesome! Yes, I would love to have that on my rig! Why can't I have nice things? Is it because I went with AMD? It does seem like Intel rigs have the better sound options? Conspiracy?

Hi,

You have an ASRock Nahimic 3 motherboard, so, you need Realtek Audio Drivers (UAD - ASRock NH3) from your motherboard support page.

However, if you still want to use legacy/outdated HDA drivers when your motherboard is designed to use modern UAD drivers, and that you would love to have Realtek HD Audio Manager, you can try this :

Download Realtek High Definition Audio Drivers (HDA - ASUS ROG/TUF/PRIME DTS&RTK) (Flagged ASUS but work also with other manufacturers, unlike UAD drivers which are specific for each manufacturer) from the first post of this thread : [DRIVERS] Realtek Audio (Intel 6x/7x/8x/9x/1xx & AMD Legacy 6xx/7xx/8xx/9xx).

Follow scrupulously your CLEANUP process then your INSTALL process from ASUS ROG/TUF/PRIME Realtek motherboards category from the same thread.

Also for information :

HDA Drivers are for Windows 7 to Windows 10
UAD Drivers are only for Windows 10 64 bit or more recent

HDA Drivers use Win32/Legacy apps (including Realtek HD Audio Manager)
UAD Drivers use UWP apps downloaded from Microsoft Store (including Realtek Audio Control/Console)

HDA Drivers have a tray icon (possibility to disable it)
UAD Drivers don't have a tray icon (without possibility to enable it)​

Glossary :​

HDA = High Definition Audio
HDA (Realtek) = Standard (NVIDIA) = Legacy (Microsoft & Intel)

UAD = Universal Audio Driver
UAD (Realtek) = DCH (NVIDIA & Intel now) = DCHU (Microsoft) = UWD (Microsoft & Intel before)

DCH/DCHU = Declarative Componentized Hardware Support Apps Universal API compliance

UWD = Universal Windows Driver.​

As reminder, of all that I offer in my firmware/drivers threads listed in my index thread in my signature (even though they are AIMed for ASUS motherboards), only the UAD audio drivers are ASUS specific.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5 6000MHz CL30 - 32GB (2 x 16GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG Strix RTX 4080 OC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS ROG Strix XG35VQ
    Screen Resolution
    3440 x 1440 Full RGB @ 100Hz
    Hard Drives
    SSD Samsung 990 PRO 1TB
    SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus GX 850W ATX 3.0
    Case
    NZXT H5 Flow
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X53
    Keyboard
    Logitech G413
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
Hi,

You have an ASRock Nahimic 3 motherboard, so, you need Realtek Audio Drivers (UAD - ASRock NH3) from your motherboard support page.

However, if you still want to use legacy/outdated HDA drivers when your motherboard is designed to use modern UAD drivers, and that you would love to have Realtek HD Audio Manager, you can try this :

Download Realtek High Definition Audio Drivers (HDA - ASUS ROG/TUF/PRIME DTS&RTK) (Flagged ASUS but work also with other manufacturers, unlike UAD drivers which are specific for each manufacturer) from the first post of this thread : [DRIVERS] Realtek Audio (Intel 6x/7x/8x/9x/1xx & AMD Legacy 6xx/7xx/8xx/9xx).

Follow scrupulously your CLEANUP process then your INSTALL process from ASUS ROG/TUF/PRIME Realtek motherboards category from the same thread.

Also for information :


As reminder, of all that I offer in my firmware/drivers threads listed in my index thread in my signature (even though they are AIMed for ASUS motherboards), only the UAD audio drivers are ASUS specific.
Can 't thank you enough for posting these details.

I have as ASRock mobo that hasn't had audio driver updates since Sept of 2021. I went to your thread here and tried the install on my own, but I guessed the wrong driver version -- which of course, did not work.

When I did it this time, using the version you mentioned here, it worked GREAT!

Again, many thanks for this work on your part.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Ryzen 5600X
    Motherboard
    ASRock Steel Legend
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GT 710
    Sound Card
    None
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23",24", 19" - flat panels
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    None - only M.2 SATA and NVMe drives
    PSU
    750W
    Case
    Antec
    Cooling
    stock Wraith cooler
    Keyboard
    Corsair gaming
    Mouse
    Logitech M720
    Internet Speed
    1Gb
Remember when we had Audio Enhancements that worked? Why do Realtek's Audio drivers suck so much now?

Also, does anyone actually using Nahimic or some of these other "premium" trash audio companion apps?

When is Realtek / Microsoft going to acknowledge this issue? I'm so pissed that I have a new computer with worse audio than my last one:


Windows 11 / 10 have a sound driver problem.
Yes, its been killing me since I use surround sound, and acoustic audio cancelation, so I can play a game in surround sound and stream it, and use the mobo mic jack to filter out PC audio and background noise, ever since the Microsoft imposed draconian walled garden "universal drivers" landed I have not found one motherboard to work right with this setup that works fine on my 1150/1151/am3 motherboards. And of course no 200$ sound card supports it either...

Anyone with a patron that makes custom drivers? I'm to the point I'll toss 200$ at the problem...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win10
I got tired of Realtek as well. On my desktop I use Mokichu's on this forum...they work well for Asus. On my Dell XPS 9510, and several previous laptops I got tires of all the extra services for the audio enhancements (Waves Maxxaudio for Dell). It was a PIA but I was able to get rid of everything, and added the registry entry to have Windows Update stop looking for drivers (or else it adds it all back at some point). Now I just download the latest Realtek UAD drivers from Microsoft Catalog. They work well and there is no difference in sound quality (for me anyway) to when Waves was active.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z-270A
    Memory
    32GB 2666Mhz (Kingston Hyper X Fury)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvidia 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    N/A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C27F390
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Evo 512GB
UAD Drivers are only for Windows 10 64 bit or more recent

many UAD drivers work with at least Windows 10 x64 build 15063 (v1703 or Creators Update) and all Windows 11 releases

version 6.0.9524.1 & newer UAD driver versions require minimum Windows 10 x64 build 16299 (v1709 or Fall Creators update)
the INF files for 6.0.9524.1 have a section that changed from [AzaliaManufacturerID.NTamd64.10.0...15063] to [AzaliaManufacturerID.NTamd64.10.0...16299]

Probably the black background is due to selection of DARK mode in Settings Personalization etc. See mine.
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nope. it's still black on my friend's asus board regardless of DARK mode windows settings - changing them in personalization (light or dark) makes no difference

plus, you're using realtek audio console (a separate uwp app from ms store), BobD.
my friend's Asus board is using Realtek HD Audio Manager, (the old realtek audio manager app NOT from MS store)
 
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  • OS
    windows 10 ltsc
As illustrated in my video, the Nahinic enhancements sound so bad, it makes games unplayable.
I have two MSI notebooks . One from 2017 (GT73vr Titan) and this one (GE76 Raider).
Both have Nahimic installed and I really like this app. I also have klipsch promedia 2.1
connected to both and the sound , whether music or games is just perfect. Many options
to adjust plus the EQ is also available. The one thing I would advise against is that, when
connecting 7.1 headphones, you have to turn off surround Sound in Nahimic otherwise
they will clash and produce horrible sound as the headphones have their own app.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    windows 11 22631.3296
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI Raider GE76
    CPU
    Core i9 12th gen 12900HK 2.9 MHz
    Motherboard
    MSI
    Memory
    32 Gigs DDR5-4800
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia RTX 3070 Ti / 8 Gigs DDR6
    Sound Card
    DYNAUDIO - Klipsch 2.1 THX - Sound Effects by Nahimic 3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" 1920 x 1080 360 Hz 3 ms, IPS / Connected to MSI 32 inch curved @ 165 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 / Both
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB (OS) - Solidigm P41 2TB (Storage)
    PSU
    280 watts
    Case
    MSI GE series
    Cooling
    internal
    Keyboard
    Steelseries
    Mouse
    G903 Lightspeed
    Internet Speed
    1000 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox / Opera GX- Do not like Edge
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes'
    Other Info
    just ask.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 22H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI GT73 7RE VR Titan
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 7820HK 2.9 Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI
    Memory
    16 Gigs DDR4 2400 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    nVidia 1070 8GB RAM
    Sound Card
    DYNAUDIO / Nahimic 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    IPS / 120HZ
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080P
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVME EVO 970 1TB / Samsung SSD (SATA) 1TB
    PSU
    240 watts
    Case
    MSI
    Cooling
    Internal
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 Lightspeed
    Keyboard
    Steelseries
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s
    Browser
    Firefox / Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes'
    Other Info
    none.
Hi,

You have an ASRock Nahimic 3 motherboard, so, you need Realtek Audio Drivers (UAD - ASRock NH3) from your motherboard support page.

However, if you still want to use legacy/outdated HDA drivers when your motherboard is designed to use modern UAD drivers, and that you would love to have Realtek HD Audio Manager, you can try this :

Download Realtek High Definition Audio Drivers (HDA - ASUS ROG/TUF/PRIME DTS&RTK) (Flagged ASUS but work also with other manufacturers, unlike UAD drivers which are specific for each manufacturer) from the first post of this thread : [DRIVERS] Realtek Audio (Intel 6x/7x/8x/9x/1xx & AMD Legacy 6xx/7xx/8xx/9xx).

Follow scrupulously your CLEANUP process then your INSTALL process from ASUS ROG/TUF/PRIME Realtek motherboards category from the same thread.

Also for information :


As reminder, of all that I offer in my firmware/drivers threads listed in my index thread in my signature (even though they are AIMed for ASUS motherboards), only the UAD audio drivers are ASUS specific.

Thanks, this works. Is there a way to Disable Front Panel Jack Detection? It looks like there isn't... everything is perfect now with these drivers except that I can't have my rear speakers and headphones output the same audio signal simultaneously at the same time (which is what disable front panel audio detection was for in the past). Windows 10 Version 2004 (19041.508) and Previous - How to Disable Front Panel Jack Detection - Realtek Audio

EDIT: Would still like to disable front panel jack detection, but actually, these drivers make PUBG sound worse, so they're not perfect. I don't know why as older drivers like this worked fine on older equipment.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 7700X
    Motherboard
    Asrock X670E PG Lightning
    Memory
    GSkill 32GB DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 3080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial NVME
    PSU
    Rosewill 1200W
    Case
    Rosewill Thor Full ATX
    Cooling
    Air - Super Large Dual Heatsink / Fan

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