Recovery key now required after each boot.... lot of typing....


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I restored my C: drive using an Acronis backup, which apparently went well.
But now every time I boot the other internal drive requires me to enter the recovery key. Both are encrypted with BitLocker.
I have the key and can unlock the drive. But next boot - type in all over again.

This is Windows Home, and there is no BitLocker app in settings.
Typing the looong key in each time gets tiring.

How do I fix??

thx,

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I don't know if this applies to Windows 11 Home edition as well, you'll simply have to try it to see if this is an option...

On the screen where you unlock the drive, you should have an open to automatically unlock the drive on this machine as in this screenshot:

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Note: This is only an option if the OS drive is BitLocker encrypted, which you indicated the C: drive is. I'm still not sure how this is the case since you are running the Home edition, however. Out of curiosity, how is it that your C: drive is BitLocker encrypted on Windows 11 Home?
 

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Well it says "Device encryption", and if i try to open it I'm asked for a Recovery Key.
I found the recovery key on microsoft.com, described as a "BitLocker Recovery Key."

This came with the product - maybe it's not actually Bitlocker. There is no Bitlocker app included in the control panel.

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Ah, yes. I can see where the confusion comes from. "Device encryption" is similar to BitLocker, but it is not the same thing.

See this for more information:


I have to admit that I have not used Device Encryption. I always run the Pro edition so I run BitLocker. If no one responds with an authoritative answer, I'll stand-up a Windows Home VM in the morning and do a little testing.
 

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I restored my C: drive using an Acronis backup, which apparently went well.
But now every time I boot the other internal drive requires me to enter the recovery key. Both are encrypted with BitLocker.
I have the key and can unlock the drive. But next boot - type in all over again.

This is Windows Home, and there is no BitLocker app in settings.
Typing the looong key in each time gets tiring.

How do I fix??

thx,

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It looks like an Acronis bug to me that made 'Device Encryption' sort of behave like 'BitLocker' but not entirely.

IMHO, to avoid entering the recovery key after every boot, you could try to:

> get help from Acronis, or

> do another restore of your C: drive in a different (perhaps manual) way so that you have W11 Home with the default 'Device Encryption' behavior, or

> turn OFF 'Device Encryption' which will leave you with W11 Home without the default 'Device Encryption' behavior, or

> upgrade to W11 Pro so that you can enable 'BitLocker' and auto-unlock your other internal drive, or

> do what @hsehestedt will come up with.

Edit: @hsehestedt is listed last but definitely not least
 

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Have you simply tried turning off device encryption and reenabling it. The "bitlocker" passwords are hekd in the tpm, and I suspect the TPM has got confused. Turning it off and on again should solve the issue I think.
 

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A little bit of bad news, I'm afraid. After some research it turns out that in order to be able to use Device Encryption (not to be confused with BitLocker), one of the system requirements is that a PC must support Modern Standby. Not one of my systems supports modern standby. As a result, I have no way to do any testing of this either on a physical machine or in a VM.

I've also done a git of web searching and have not come up with any answers.

There are a few things that I did learn from my research: Device Encryption is a bit different than BitLocker in that you have no choice what drives to encrypt. Once enabled, it encrypts all drives.

So, @Haydon is absolutely right - it is entirely possible that this is a quirk of the restore with Acronis restore. In this case, it might very well be worth the time to turn off Device Encryption, then turn it back on again as @cereberus suggested.

Please do report back on your results as this sounds like a good learning opportunity for us :-)
 

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Another thing worth trying out, since the issue affects only the second internal drive but not C: is to update the driver, reseat connectors, etc.

If the issue can be isolated to something local (something happened with the second internal drive that triggered 'Device Encryption') then turning 'Device Encryption' OFF and ON should be safe (y)

But if the issue cannot be isolated to something local, then it may not be safe to turn 'Device Encryption' back ON (n)

However, the previous paragraph is written (and colored) by someone/me who loves encryption but at the same time is also very afraid that encryption can misbehave and lock you out or even worse, misbehave like ransomware :eek1:

If the issue cannot be localized to the second internal drive (or to something else local) then my personal preference would be to rebuild the machine (y)
 

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Well it says "Device encryption", and if i try to open it I'm asked for a Recovery Key.
I found the recovery key on microsoft.com, described as a "BitLocker Recovery Key."

This came with the product - maybe it's not actually Bitlocker. There is no Bitlocker app included in the control panel.

.

A little bit of bad news, I'm afraid. After some research it turns out that in order to be able to use Device Encryption (not to be confused with BitLocker), one of the system requirements is that a PC must support Modern Standby. Not one of my systems supports modern standby. As a result, I have no way to do any testing of this either on a physical machine or in a VM.

I've also done a git of web searching and have not come up with any answers.

There are a few things that I did learn from my research: Device Encryption is a bit different than BitLocker in that you have no choice what drives to encrypt. Once enabled, it encrypts all drives.

So, @Haydon is absolutely right - it is entirely possible that this is a quirk of the restore with Acronis restore. In this case, it might very well be worth the time to turn off Device Encryption, then turn it back on again as @cereberus suggested.

Please do report back on your results as this sounds like a good learning opportunity for us :-)
Well, I have just been testing it and found a couple of things.

1) Device encryption can be used in Pro, so I tried it (not full bitlocker itself), and it bitlocked all partitions with a drive letter on OS drive.

2) It did not bitlock my second drive. I assume that is because I have Pro. All web pages I have read say ALL drives (not hidden) are bitlocked in Home.

I can separately bitlock second drive with normal bitlocker but that is using normal bitlocker.

3) When it comes to recovery keys, a lot of web pages are contradictory for Device Encryption. Some say not needed as you have aT PM, some say it is backed up to Onedrive, and some sayit is backed up to an MS account. The first two are wrong proving my point most "technical journalists" are just wannabes and just copy other posts and never actual fricking test things!

What is true is that a recovery key for each drive partition is stored on MS account. I double checked by deleting all past recovery keys (none of my drives are bitlocked) and two recovery keys were added to my MS Account (I have a C and D drive on Drive 0)

Like you I cannot test Home short of wiping my Pro installation (ok all image backed but do not really want to go there)

What I do not know is how OP gets out of the tangle they are in.

As I suggested earlier maybe turning Device Encryption off and back on will work. However, I have a feeling it will ignore second drive.

If that does not work, I would temporarily install Pro (no need to activate) in a native booting vhdx file, then use recovery key to access second drive, and then use Pro bitlocker app to turn off bitlocker on that drive. I am fairly confident this will work.

Of course, OP should backup all data on second drive first before trying any of the above!

It might just be easier to backup the data and format second drive anyway?
 

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It sounds to me that the method used to clone the drive did not update the hard drive serial number to the TPM so it knows to release the decryption key, which is why you have to re-enter the recovery key every time.


Decrypting and then, encrypting the drive afterward fixes the temporary glitch. Normally, running the
Code:
manage-bde –protectors –disable C:
and
Code:
manage-bde –protectors –enable C
: commands in admin-privileged Command Prompt would resolve the issue.
 

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It sounds to me that the method used to clone the drive did not update the hard drive serial number to the TPM so it knows to release the decryption key, which is why you have to re-enter the recovery key every time.


Pretty sure those commands are not available in Home.
 

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it's 50-50. Device Encryption is a pared down version of bitlocker with some of the same core functions. but you can always just go to settings to do it
 

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Well, for the moment I'm disabling Device Encryption. The 2nd drive (10Tb)is partitioned into 3 logical drives. The first 2 decrypted fine, third one (largest) still going.
My guess is that Drive Encryption is a minimalist version of BitLocker, with all user controls eliminated. I can see where this might be a problem unless everything works perfectly. Windows Settings, if asked about BitLocker tries to sell me an upgrade to Windows Pro for $100. Since BitLocker is the only likely improvement I would use, I'm trying to decide if its worth the $$$.
 

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Since BitLocker is the only likely improvement I would use, I'm trying to decide if its worth the $$$.
My personal opinion? Yes, it's worth it!

Another one of my personal opinions? Rebuild your machine first, then load all the goodies you want. Encryption especially is too dangerous if some issues are lurking under the hood.

And even then, always have at least 1 disconnected backup at all times (so you need at least 2 backup media) (y)(y)
 

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My guess is that Drive Encryption is a minimalist version of BitLocker, with all user controls eliminated.
Well, basically the answer is yes. You have limited flexibility - encrypt all drives, decrypt all drives. So I bit the bullet and clean installed Windows 11 Home and I have now tested that.

Bizarrely, after a clean install of Home, the C drive was automatically encrypted, but the others were not. I had to turn off device encryption and then turn it on again to re-encrypt C and encrypt D and E.

bitlock1.png

I am guessing a bit here, but I do not see why it would following would not work, given after installment only one partition (C drive) was encrypted.

Due to cutdown interface, there is no option to encrypt a single drive:
So, if you added a new drive/partition and wanted to encrypt it, I think you need to decrypt all drives, then encrypt all drives.


Similarly in reverse if you wanted to decrypt a single drive already encrypted (not C drive):
You would have to unencrypt all drives, remove drive you want to remain unencrypted, encrypt the other drives, then add new drive.
Of course the above would be a PITA, especially on a laptop, but I believe it is doable to a limited extent - you could not do it for the D drive in above - it would have to be all partitions on a drive or not.

Regarding upgrading to Pro just for full Bitlocker, personally I really do not think you get enough benefit. Full bitlocker is more flexible of course with passwords etc.

There are more compelling reasons to move to Pro e.g. Hyper-V, RDP Server, Gpedit, better control over updates etc.

However, only you can judge based on your needs.
 
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