Solved Removing an USB3 SSD from Safely Hardware Removal


hsehestedt said:
I still have never received a response to my query. I wanted to know what the end goal is. Is there some reason that the mere existence of this icon disturbs you? Just because it exists does not mean you need to use it. I simply ensure that it is only in the overflow area, so it doesn't even show up on my taskbar.
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I only want the external SSD NOT showing up in the Safely Hardware Removal , must be possible ...........
Besides , cant remove it anyway , " in use ".................
Still searching for the solution !
 

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I don't know whether this will help, but have a look at it. A couple of years ago I had an internal SSD that Windows kept offering to disconnect safely. I got out of the problem with this:

I added a new Multi String Value called TreatAsInternalPort to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\storahci\Parameters\Device with the values:

0
1
2
4
5
(note the newlines)

(Use your own disk numbers from Disk Management. At this time, I had 6 numbered disks in Disk Management, and number 3 was assigned to an optical drive, so I left its number out of the multi-string list.)
 

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Will try , btw this external SSD is placed in USBSTOR , in SCSI also..................
Will report tomorrow ( or my wife is getting angry , tooo long upstairs behind PC...........) ;-)
 
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hsehestedt said:
I still have never received a response to my query. I wanted to know what the end goal is.
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Even Microsoft says that there is no need to safely remove. I would say nearly every post, advice and web articles I have read say the same thing with very few, mentioning it being needed.
So my thoughts are, if you never need to use Safely Remove, why, oh why, does it even matter?
I want to remove it because I never need to see and don’t need to know it is there, it is a tad odd. But people want what people want.
 

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hsehestedt said:
I still have never received a response to my query. I wanted to know what the end goal is. Is there some reason that the mere existence of this icon disturbs you? Just because it exists does not mean you need to use it. I simply ensure that it is only in the overflow area, so it doesn't even show up on my taskbar.
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Because he got "device busy" when he tried to safely remove it I expect. Very annoying behavior.
 

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antspants said:
Even Microsoft says that there is no need to safely remove. I would say nearly every post, advice and web articles I have read say the same thing with very few, mentioning it being needed.
So my thoughts are, if you never need to use Safely Remove, why, oh why, does it even matter?
I want to remove it because I never need to see and don’t need to know it is there, it is a tad odd. But people want what people want.
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Supporting reference? I find it hard to believe Microsoft said that. The odds are unlikely but not near zero.
 

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antspants said:
Hi 🙏


www.theverge.com

Microsoft confirms you really, really don’t need to ‘safely remove’ USB flash drives anymore

You probably haven’t needed to do so for a while
www.theverge.com www.theverge.com


learn.microsoft.com

Windows default media removal policy

Manage default media removal policy in Windows.
learn.microsoft.com

View attachment 99263
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For the first article you referenced, this is not a flash drive we are discussing here this is a SCSI SSD disk drive. This is why it is showing up in Safely remove as I stated. That article does not apply here.

As I already mentioned, and directly stated in the second reference you supplied, which does apply to a SCSI disk drive:

"Better performance: This policy manages storage operations in a manner that improves system performance. When this policy is in effect, Windows can cache write operations to the external device. However, you must use the Safely Remove Hardware process to remove the external drive. The Safely Remove Hardware process protects the integrity of data on the device by making sure that all cached operations finish."

And you can select quick removal which should give you the same behavior as a flash drive as I also stated.
 

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PerpetualCycle said:
And you can select quick removal which should give you the same behavior as a flash drive as I also stated.
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My point is, that if you don’t really need to use it, then you never have to look at safely remove, therefore it’s all pointless worrying about it “in My Opinion” It isn’t a competition.

PerpetualCycle said:
As I already mentioned, and directly stated in the second reference you supplied, which does apply to a SCSI disk drive:
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Cross posting is just a endorsement of another members suggestion, also in my opinion.
 

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antspants said:
My point is, that if you don’t really need to use it, then you never have to look at safely remove, therefore it’s all pointless worrying about it “in My Opinion” It isn’t a competition.



Cross posting is just a endorsement of another members suggestion, also in my opinion.
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I wasn't competing just stating FACT. It is not good practice or good advice,. You can silently loose data though the odds are not high. I don't mean to be argumentative and I know you are a smart guy, you might want to do a little more research.

I don't care how many people have an opinions, just fact, as they are stated in your own reference that I quoted.
 

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PerpetualCycle said:
For the first article you referenced, this is not a flash drive we are discussing here this is a SCSI SSD disk drive. This is why it is showing up in Safely remove as I stated. That article does not apply here.
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This is 100% applicable to ANY USB connected flash drive, HDD, or SSD, so long as the write-caching is disabled.

Simply try it - go to the options for that drive and make sure caching is disabled and you will see the screen noted by antspants even on a HDD or SSD.
 

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hsehestedt said:
This is 100% applicable to ANY USB connected flash drive, HDD, or SSD, so long as the write-caching is disabled.

Simply try it - go to the options for that drive and make sure caching is disabled and you will see the screen noted by antspants even on your drive.
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No it is not. You are wrong. UASP drives are different. They behave just like a regular disk drive, not a USB flash drive, when ejected.

Can't any of you bother reading up on this? Geez.
 

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    Runs hot. LOL. SP: P116/E93/M93
    Phangkey Amaterasu V2 Desk Mat
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple 13" Macbook Pro 2020 (m1)
    CPU
    Apple M1
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1600
    Browser
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PerpetualCycle said:
Because he got "device busy" when he tried to safely remove it I expect. Very annoying behavior.
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Let me try to explain ( again) ; this external SSD ( USB3 ) has a write-cache enabled , I booted with it also.
I have no intension to remove it.
Its always showing in " Safely Hard drive Removal " , its NOT POSSIBLE to remove it this way , coz its always "in use" !
Then WHY should it be visible in the " Safely Hard drive Removal " anyway ........???

Hope you understand me better ......... :wink:
 

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    Asus
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    i7
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    z97k
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    32GB
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    nVidia
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"
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\storahci\Parameters\Device with the values:

0
1
2
4
5
(note the newlines)

(Use your own disk numbers from Disk Management. At this time, I had 6 numbered disks in Disk Management, and number 3 was assigned to an optical drive, so I left its number out of the multi-string list.)


This SSD has number 7 , it should be treated as an internal SSD !
Made REG_MULTI_SZ , called ; TreatAsInternalPort ...........WHICH number(s) shoud I give it now...??Device.png
 

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  • OS
    Windows11 Pro
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    Asus
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    i7
    Motherboard
    z97k
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    3
    Cooling
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" And you can select quick removal which should give you the same behavior as a flash drive as I also stated. "................indeed its always present 😖 !
But never possible to remove it , only by reboot and remove the cable ....................!!!
Thats why I dont want to see it in " Safe Remove " !!
 

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  • OS
    Windows11 Pro
    Computer type
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    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    z97k
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    3
    Cooling
    air
To be honest, I haven't even looked at that applet in years! 🤷‍♂️

7074.jpg
 

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    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
I know you can hide the entire Eject Media applet, other than that, I wouldn't have a clue how to remove individual entries.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
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    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Edwin said:
I know you can hide the entire Eject Media applet, other than that, I wouldn't have a clue how to remove individual entries.
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Yes , will hide it , untill a better solution appears .
Dont want to remove this external ( USB3) SSD , cant remove it either , so WHY (??) always visible in the Eject Media applet.............??
 

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  • OS
    Windows11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    z97k
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    3
    Cooling
    air

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3775
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
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    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
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    Defender+MWB Premium
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    Dell Optiplex 9020
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    i7-4770
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    stock Dell
    Memory
    24 gb
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    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
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    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
pietcorus2 said:
WHICH number(s) shoud I give it now...??
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I'd try
0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
and don't use any of those that refers to a CD/DVD.

Remember to make an image of your C: drive (at least) before you do this registry hacking.
 

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  • OS
    11 Pro 24H2 26100.2454
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    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
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    i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz
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    Lenovo 3132
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    32GBDDR4 @ 2666MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
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    Realtek HD Audio
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    LG E2442
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    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB NVMe SSD, 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    250GB NVMe SSD (OS and programs), 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    500GB NVMe SSD (Data)
    Case
    Lenovo SFF
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    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
    Mouse
    LogiTech M510 wireless
    Internet Speed
    Fast (for fixed wireless!)
    Browser
    Chrome, sometimes Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium & Defender (working together beautifully!)
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    11 Pro 24H2 26100.2454
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    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
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    i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz
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    Lenovo 3132
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    32GB DDR4 @ 2600MHz
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    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
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    Realtek High Definition Audio onboard
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    LG FULL HD (1920x1080@59Hz)
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    1920 x 1080
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    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS NVMe; 1 x Samsung 980 NVMe SSD
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    Lenovo Think Centre SFF
    Mouse
    LogiTech M510 wireless
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    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
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    Chrome
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    Malwarebytes Premium and MS Defender, beautiful together
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