Solved Restoring the Windows GUI boot menu again if legacy text one appears. (fixed)


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Hi folks
After creating a winpe.vhdx and a windows 22 server vhdx I lost the blue boot windows GUI and just got the old legacy black text one.

The easiest way to fix this is via (as admin) bcdedit.

Simply run bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard where {default} is the system you want as default (or in whatever id it is -- you can see that by just running bcdedit without any parameters - just lists them all if you have serveral systems.

Of course if you already have the newer blue boot menu and don't like it you can revert by typing

bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy - but not sure why you'd want to do that -- people's choice I suppose.

Cheers
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jimbo45 said:
Hi folks
After creating a winpe.vhdx and a windows 22 server vhdx I lost the blue boot windows GUI and just got the old legacy black text one.

The easiest way to fix this is via (as admin) bcdedit.

Simply run bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard where {default} is the system you want as default (or in whatever id it is -- you can see that by just running bcdedit without any parameters - just lists them all if you have serveral systems.

Of course if you already have the newer blue boot menu and don't like it you can revert by typing

bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy - but not sure why you'd want to do that -- people's choice I suppose.

Cheers
jimbo
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I recommend you use Code tags when suggesting such commands (</> icon in menu)

Code: 
bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard

Code: 
bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy
Main reason some prefer the legacy menu is it can be quite a bit faster.
 

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I use the legacy boot menu since my BIOS enter screen is mostly black, except for the ROG logo and it blends in nicely. It is also a little faster, but not by much.

If I need to get to the recovery menu I just need to press F8 at the boot menu.
 

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Good info. I will give legacy option a try. Thanks! :-)
-Gamma
 

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GammaP said:
Good info. I will give legacy option a try. Thanks! :-)
-Gamma
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It is much easier to select option using graphical interface - it is too easy to select wrong option on legacy bios, particularly for people with reduce dexterity or "fat fingers". Also can take several clicks.

Also, some bioses have a bug where legacy bios only shows in low resolution if secure boot is enabled.
 

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Hi folks

especially if you have a load of different OS'es -- the description which you can set (also doable with legacy boot) is much clearer IMO with white / blue GUI tham with black / grey text in the legacy menu.

I don't think boot time length makes any even noticeable difference on decent (and even quite old) equipment either. Also you can get longer descriptions visible on the screen.

But it's people's choice and at least both menu types are still available.
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(And yes I still use Win 10 from time to time).

cheers
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jimbo45 said:
Hi folks

especially if you have a load of different OS'es -- the description which you can set (also doable with legacy boot) is much clearer IMO with white / blue GUI tham with black / grey text in the legacy menu.

I don't think boot time length makes any even noticeable difference on decent (and even quite old) equipment either. Also you can get longer descriptions visible on the screen.

But it's people's choice and at least both menu types are still available.
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(And yes I still use Win 10 from time to time).

cheers
jimbo
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Wow! You are a VHD rider. That's me too! :-)
-Gamma
 

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jimbo45 said:
Simply run bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard where {default} is the system you want as default (or in whatever id it is -- you can see that by just running bcdedit without any parameters - just lists them all if you have serveral systems.
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As detailed in this thread, the above command may be remotely relevant to the task stated, but in many scenarios will not produce desired change from Legacy to Modern Boot Menu on a multiboot system with Windows 11 as primary OS. It remains a mystery, how to accomplish that on a multiboot system with several partitions per drive upon OS upgrade or reinstall. Most likely, certain Bootloader parameters set by bcdedit can switch the menu.

I wonder if someone researched the issue deep enough, and whether there is some Tutorial written to do that?
 

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I find that EasyBCD 2.4 works the best for me.
 

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I tried EasyBCD 2.4 to revert to Modern Boot Menu or rebuild boot records, but no change in appearance. Adding new OS installs to Boot Menu in EasyBCD resulted in switch to Legacy Boot Menu no matter what options or BCDEdit commands & parameters I tried. The only reliable way I found to switch from Legacy to Modern Boot Menu on a Multiboot system with several disks & partitions and Windows 11 Boot Manager as primary:

1. Launch Windows version, which Boot Manager you want to use as primary, observe Legacy Boot Menu at boot
2. Reboot to Windows Recovery - Advanced Options - Command Prompt, or launch & reboot from Windows Install Disk choosing its Repair Windows - Command Prompt option
3. Run Diskpart - List Volume to get a feel of accessible partitions and their drive letters, then Exit
4. Run bootrec /RebuildBcd to erase existing boot records and auto add available Windows installations to a new boot menu
5. Run BCDEdit to see updated BCD OS records, or BCDEdit /v /enum all to see all boot records, including hidden in Menu
6. Reboot, make sure your motherboard BIOS or UEFI settings are configured to start from the same drive as before, if several are connected.
 
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zamar21 said:
I tried EasyBCD 2.4 to revert to Modern Boot Menu or rebuild boot records, but no change. Adding new OS installs to Boot Menu in EasyBCD resulted in switch to Legacy Boot Menu no matter what options or BCDEdit commands & parameters I tried. The only reliable way I found to switch from Legacy to Modern Boot Menu on a Multiboot system with several disks & partitions and Windows 11 Boot Manager as primary:

1. Reboot to Windows Recovery - Advanced Options - Command Prompt, or launch Windows Install Disk choosing Repair Windows - Command Prompt
2. Run Diskpart - List Volume to get a feel of accessible partitions and their drive letters
3. Run bootrec /RebuildBcd to erase existing records and auto add available Windows installations to boot menu
4. Run BCDEdit to see updated BCD store, or BCDEdit /v /enum all to see all records, including hidden
5. Reboot, make sure your motherboard BIOS or UEFI settings are configured to start from the same drive as before, if several are connected.
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When you made the changes did you save them and wait until EasyBCD said the changes were saved? I've never had a problem using EasyBCD to make any needed changes to my boot menu.
 

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Winuser said:
When you made the changes did you save them and wait
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I took part in the debate with the dev, when EasyBCD update to V2.4 was developed years ago, and familiar with the issue. I suspect that inherited OS globalsettings and certain hidden bootloadersettings affect the outcome. EasyBCD 2.4 is somewhat obsolete to cover all grounds. If it fails for some to switch from Legacy to Modern Boot Menu, run bootrec from Windows Recovery or Install Disk. There might be alternative ways to achieve that with BCDEdit requiring in-depth knowledge of various boot affecting factors. Bootmenupolicy alone doesn't cut it.
 

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zamar21 said:
I took part in the debate with the dev, when EasyBCD update to V2.4 was developed years ago, and familiar with the issue. I suspect that inherited OS globalsettings and certain hidden bootloadersettings affect the outcome. EasyBCD 2.4 is somewhat obsolete to cover all grounds. If it fails for some to switch from Legacy to Modern Boot Menu, run bootrec from Windows Recovery or Install Disk. There might be alternative ways to achieve that with BCDEdit requiring in-depth knowledge of various boot affecting factors. Bootmenupolicy alone doesn't cut it.
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I don't know what changes you have made that would make EasyBCD not work. I've been using EayBCD for years on just about every computer I have owned and it has always worked for me. I'm at that point in my life that I'm going to do things the easy way whenever possible. I no longer want to learn or remember things such as command lines.
 

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The bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard command should work but you have to run it as Admin on both/all partitions.
 

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I have run bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard command for both {default} and {current} on both my W10 and W11 systems.
The bcdedit display shows "bootmenupolicy Standard" for both entries, yet I still get the legacy menu.
EasyBCD 2.4 does not appear to have the facility to display or amend bootmenupolicy.
 

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zamar21 said:
I tried EasyBCD 2.4 to revert to Modern Boot Menu or rebuild boot records, but no change in appearance. Adding new OS installs to Boot Menu in EasyBCD resulted in switch to Legacy Boot Menu no matter what options or BCDEdit commands & parameters I tried. The only reliable way I found to switch from Legacy to Modern Boot Menu on a Multiboot system with several disks & partitions and Windows 11 Boot Manager as primary:
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I've never had trouble using EasyBCD. Did you save the changes before exiting EasyBCD? When you click on save, it may take a few seconds before the settings are save.
 

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Winuser said:
I've never had trouble using EasyBCD. Did you save the changes before exiting EasyBCD? When you click on save, it may take a few seconds before the settings are save.
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Yes, I am aware of the need to wait for the save to complete.
My point is that I can find no facility within EasyBCD for handling how the boot menu is displayed.
Any time I have used it the display reverts to legacy.
 

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Hairy Scot said:
Yes, I am aware of the need to wait for the save to complete.
My point is that I can find no facility within EasyBCD for handling how the boot menu is displayed.
Any time I have used it the display reverts to legacy.
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Clicking on Use Metro bootloader then on Save Settings has always worked for me.
 

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The legacy display persists no matter what BCDEDIT or EasyBCD shows.
Why is it that bootmenupolicy shows only on Boot Loader entries and not on the Boot Manager entry?
 

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    ST6000DM003-2CY186
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    Seagate Expansion SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
The only thing I didn't like about the graphical (blue) boot menu is that if you select anything other than the default OS,
the computer has to reboot. I got tired of the reboot and switched to the legacy menu which doesn't do that.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 24H2 26100.4652
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-14700F
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF Z690-PLUS WIFI BIOS v4101
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12GB OC
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming 27" 2K HDR Gaming
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 1TB NVMe (Win 11 24H2)
    SK hynix P41 500GB NVMe (24H2 VHDX)
    SK hynix P41 2TB NVMe (x3)
    Crucial P3 Plus 4TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x Shift
    Case
    Antec Dark Phantom DP502 FLUX
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black + 7 Phantek T-30's
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 320
    Mouse
    Razer Basilisk V3
    Internet Speed
    350Mbs
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Winows Security
    Other Info
    ASUS BW-16D1HT OD

    Windows 11 25H2 26200.5670 (VHDX)
    On System One (Dual Boot)
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 24H2 26100.4484
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-11700F
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming Z590 Plus WiFi
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    SoundBlaster Audigy Fx V2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung F27T350
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB
    Samsung 870 EVO 500GB SSD
    PSU
    Corsair HX750
    Case
    Cougar MX330-G Window
    Cooling
    Hyper 212 EVO
    Internet Speed
    350Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
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