Solved Restoring the Windows GUI boot menu again if legacy text one appears. (fixed)


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Hi folks
After creating a winpe.vhdx and a windows 22 server vhdx I lost the blue boot windows GUI and just got the old legacy black text one.

The easiest way to fix this is via (as admin) bcdedit.

Simply run bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard where {default} is the system you want as default (or in whatever id it is -- you can see that by just running bcdedit without any parameters - just lists them all if you have serveral systems.

Of course if you already have the newer blue boot menu and don't like it you can revert by typing

bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy - but not sure why you'd want to do that -- people's choice I suppose.

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jimbo45 said:
Hi folks
After creating a winpe.vhdx and a windows 22 server vhdx I lost the blue boot windows GUI and just got the old legacy black text one.

The easiest way to fix this is via (as admin) bcdedit.

Simply run bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard where {default} is the system you want as default (or in whatever id it is -- you can see that by just running bcdedit without any parameters - just lists them all if you have serveral systems.

Of course if you already have the newer blue boot menu and don't like it you can revert by typing

bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy - but not sure why you'd want to do that -- people's choice I suppose.

Cheers
jimbo
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I recommend you use Code tags when suggesting such commands (</> icon in menu)

Code: 
bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard

Code: 
bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy
Main reason some prefer the legacy menu is it can be quite a bit faster.
 

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I use the legacy boot menu since my BIOS enter screen is mostly black, except for the ROG logo and it blends in nicely. It is also a little faster, but not by much.

If I need to get to the recovery menu I just need to press F8 at the boot menu.
 

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Good info. I will give legacy option a try. Thanks! :-)
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GammaP said:
Good info. I will give legacy option a try. Thanks! :-)
-Gamma
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It is much easier to select option using graphical interface - it is too easy to select wrong option on legacy bios, particularly for people with reduce dexterity or "fat fingers". Also can take several clicks.

Also, some bioses have a bug where legacy bios only shows in low resolution if secure boot is enabled.
 

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Hi folks

especially if you have a load of different OS'es -- the description which you can set (also doable with legacy boot) is much clearer IMO with white / blue GUI tham with black / grey text in the legacy menu.

I don't think boot time length makes any even noticeable difference on decent (and even quite old) equipment either. Also you can get longer descriptions visible on the screen.

But it's people's choice and at least both menu types are still available.
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(And yes I still use Win 10 from time to time).

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jimbo45 said:
Hi folks

especially if you have a load of different OS'es -- the description which you can set (also doable with legacy boot) is much clearer IMO with white / blue GUI tham with black / grey text in the legacy menu.

I don't think boot time length makes any even noticeable difference on decent (and even quite old) equipment either. Also you can get longer descriptions visible on the screen.

But it's people's choice and at least both menu types are still available.
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(And yes I still use Win 10 from time to time).

cheers
jimbo
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Wow! You are a VHD rider. That's me too! :-)
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jimbo45 said:
Simply run bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard where {default} is the system you want as default (or in whatever id it is -- you can see that by just running bcdedit without any parameters - just lists them all if you have serveral systems.
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As detailed in this thread, the above command may be remotely relevant to the task stated, but in many scenarios will not produce desired change from Legacy to Modern Boot Menu on a multiboot system with Windows 11 as primary OS. It remains a mystery, how to accomplish that on a multiboot system with several partitions per drive upon OS upgrade or reinstall. Most likely, certain Bootloader parameters set by bcdedit can switch the menu.

I wonder if someone researched the issue deep enough, and whether there is some Tutorial written to do that?
 

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I find that EasyBCD 2.4 works the best for me.
 

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I tried EasyBCD 2.4 to revert to Modern Boot Menu or rebuild boot records, but no change in appearance. Adding new OS installs to Boot Menu in EasyBCD resulted in switch to Legacy Boot Menu no matter what options or BCDEdit commands & parameters I tried. The only reliable way I found to switch from Legacy to Modern Boot Menu on a Multiboot system with several disks & partitions and Windows 11 Boot Manager as primary:

1. Launch Windows version, which Boot Manager you want to use as primary, observe Legacy Boot Menu at boot
2. Reboot to Windows Recovery - Advanced Options - Command Prompt, or launch & reboot from Windows Install Disk choosing its Repair Windows - Command Prompt option
3. Run Diskpart - List Volume to get a feel of accessible partitions and their drive letters, then Exit
4. Run bootrec /RebuildBcd to erase existing boot records and auto add available Windows installations to a new boot menu
5. Run BCDEdit to see updated BCD OS records, or BCDEdit /v /enum all to see all boot records, including hidden in Menu
6. Reboot, make sure your motherboard BIOS or UEFI settings are configured to start from the same drive as before, if several are connected.
 
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zamar21 said:
I tried EasyBCD 2.4 to revert to Modern Boot Menu or rebuild boot records, but no change. Adding new OS installs to Boot Menu in EasyBCD resulted in switch to Legacy Boot Menu no matter what options or BCDEdit commands & parameters I tried. The only reliable way I found to switch from Legacy to Modern Boot Menu on a Multiboot system with several disks & partitions and Windows 11 Boot Manager as primary:

1. Reboot to Windows Recovery - Advanced Options - Command Prompt, or launch Windows Install Disk choosing Repair Windows - Command Prompt
2. Run Diskpart - List Volume to get a feel of accessible partitions and their drive letters
3. Run bootrec /RebuildBcd to erase existing records and auto add available Windows installations to boot menu
4. Run BCDEdit to see updated BCD store, or BCDEdit /v /enum all to see all records, including hidden
5. Reboot, make sure your motherboard BIOS or UEFI settings are configured to start from the same drive as before, if several are connected.
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When you made the changes did you save them and wait until EasyBCD said the changes were saved? I've never had a problem using EasyBCD to make any needed changes to my boot menu.
 

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Winuser said:
When you made the changes did you save them and wait
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I took part in the debate with the dev, when EasyBCD update to V2.4 was developed years ago, and familiar with the issue. I suspect that inherited OS globalsettings and certain hidden bootloadersettings affect the outcome. EasyBCD 2.4 is somewhat obsolete to cover all grounds. If it fails for some to switch from Legacy to Modern Boot Menu, run bootrec from Windows Recovery or Install Disk. There might be alternative ways to achieve that with BCDEdit requiring in-depth knowledge of various boot affecting factors. Bootmenupolicy alone doesn't cut it.
 

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I took part in the debate with the dev, when EasyBCD update to V2.4 was developed years ago, and familiar with the issue. I suspect that inherited OS globalsettings and certain hidden bootloadersettings affect the outcome. EasyBCD 2.4 is somewhat obsolete to cover all grounds. If it fails for some to switch from Legacy to Modern Boot Menu, run bootrec from Windows Recovery or Install Disk. There might be alternative ways to achieve that with BCDEdit requiring in-depth knowledge of various boot affecting factors. Bootmenupolicy alone doesn't cut it.
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I don't know what changes you have made that would make EasyBCD not work. I've been using EayBCD for years on just about every computer I have owned and it has always worked for me. I'm at that point in my life that I'm going to do things the easy way whenever possible. I no longer want to learn or remember things such as command lines.
 

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The bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard command should work but you have to run it as Admin on both/all partitions.
 

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I have run bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard command for both {default} and {current} on both my W10 and W11 systems.
The bcdedit display shows "bootmenupolicy Standard" for both entries, yet I still get the legacy menu.
EasyBCD 2.4 does not appear to have the facility to display or amend bootmenupolicy.
 

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zamar21 said:
I tried EasyBCD 2.4 to revert to Modern Boot Menu or rebuild boot records, but no change in appearance. Adding new OS installs to Boot Menu in EasyBCD resulted in switch to Legacy Boot Menu no matter what options or BCDEdit commands & parameters I tried. The only reliable way I found to switch from Legacy to Modern Boot Menu on a Multiboot system with several disks & partitions and Windows 11 Boot Manager as primary:
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I've never had trouble using EasyBCD. Did you save the changes before exiting EasyBCD? When you click on save, it may take a few seconds before the settings are save.
 

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Winuser said:
I've never had trouble using EasyBCD. Did you save the changes before exiting EasyBCD? When you click on save, it may take a few seconds before the settings are save.
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Yes, I am aware of the need to wait for the save to complete.
My point is that I can find no facility within EasyBCD for handling how the boot menu is displayed.
Any time I have used it the display reverts to legacy.
 

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Hairy Scot said:
Yes, I am aware of the need to wait for the save to complete.
My point is that I can find no facility within EasyBCD for handling how the boot menu is displayed.
Any time I have used it the display reverts to legacy.
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Clicking on Use Metro bootloader then on Save Settings has always worked for me.
 

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    Webroot SecureAnywhere CE 26.1

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    Windows 11 Canary ChannelIntel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-A
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
The legacy display persists no matter what BCDEDIT or EasyBCD shows.
Why is it that bootmenupolicy shows only on Boot Loader entries and not on the Boot Manager entry?
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro X64 Version 25H2 (OS Build 262...AMD RyzenRAM 31.0GB512MB ATI AMD Radeon 860M Graphics (ASUStek C...
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro X64 Version 25H2 (OS Build 26200.80
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS PN54
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen
    Motherboard
    A. ELM_PN54 (FP8DDR5)
    Memory
    RAM 31.0GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    512MB ATI AMD Radeon 860M Graphics (ASUStek Computer Inc)
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    DELL U2718Q (3840x2160@60Hz) DELL U2913WM (2560x1080@60Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160@60Hz / 2560x1080@60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1863GB Crucial CT2000T500SSD8 SSD
    931GB Crucial CT1000E100SSD8 SSD
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
The only thing I didn't like about the graphical (blue) boot menu is that if you select anything other than the default OS,
the computer has to reboot. I got tired of the reboot and switched to the legacy menu which doesn't do that.
 

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System One System Two Other systems

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8655Intel® Core™ i7-14700KG.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR5ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super 12GB
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8655
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-14700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF Z690-PLUS WIFI BIOS 4505 11/29/25
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super 12GB
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming 27" 2K HDR Gaming
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 1TB NVMe (Win 11 25H2)
    SK hynix P41 500GB NVMe 25H2 DEV/Games
    SK hynix P41 2TB NVMe (x3)
    Crucial P3 Plus 4TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x Shift
    Case
    Antec Dark Phantom DP502 FLUX
    Cooling
    Corsair Nautilus 360 RS AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 320
    Mouse
    Razer Basilisk V3
    Internet Speed
    750Mbs
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Winows Security
    Other Info
    MR 8.1 Home

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8655Intel Core i7-11700F64 GB DDR4MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12GB
    Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8655
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-11700F
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming Z590 Plus WiFi (BIOS 2803)
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12GB
    Sound Card
    SoundBlaster Audigy Fx V2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung F27T350
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB
    Samsung 870 EVO 500GB SSD
    PSU
    Corsair HX750
    Case
    Cougar MX330-G Window
    Cooling
    Thermalright Frozen Edge 240 Black AIO
    Internet Speed
    350Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
  • System Three
    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8655
    ASUS PRIME Z370-P II BIOS 3004 7/12/21
    Intel Core i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz
    32GB DDR4 RAM (4x8)
    iGPU Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Mid-Tower Desktop
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