Rufus: The Reliable USB Formatting Utility


Rufus is a utility that helps format and create bootable USB flash drives.

Features​

  • Format USB, flash card and virtual drives to FAT/FAT32/NTFS/UDF/exFAT/ReFS/ext2/ext3
  • Create DOS bootable USB drives, using FreeDOS or MS-DOS (Windows 8.1 or earlier)
  • Create BIOS or UEFI bootable drives, including UEFI bootable NTFS
  • Create bootable drives from bootable ISOs (Windows, Linux, etc.)
  • Create bootable drives from bootable disk images, including compressed ones
  • Create Windows 11 installation drives for PCs that don't have TPM or Secure Boot
  • Create Windows To Go drives
  • Create persistent Linux partitions
  • Create VHD/DD images of a drive
  • Compute MD5, SHA-1, SHA-256 and SHA-512 checksums of the selected image
  • Improve Windows installation experience by automatically setting up OOBE parameters (local account, privacy options, etc.)
  • Perform bad blocks checks, including detection of "fake" flash drives
  • Download official Microsoft Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10 or Windows 11 retail ISOs
  • Download UEFI Shell ISOs
  • Modern and familiar UI, with 38 languages natively supported
  • Small footprint. No installation required.
  • Portable. Secure Boot compatible.
  • 100% Free Software (GPL v3)

GitHub: GitHub - pbatard/rufus: The Reliable USB Formatting Utility

Official website: Rufus - The Official Website (Download, New Releases)

Latest stable release: Release Rufus 4.3 · pbatard/rufus

Latest Beta release: Release Rufus 4.3 BETA · pbatard/rufus

Changelog:

Rufus 4.3​

  • Add support for symbolic link preservation when NTFS is used
  • Add an exception to enforce NTFS for Linux Mint's LMDE
  • Add an expert feature to restrict a Windows installation to S Mode
  • Fix persistence support for Debian 12 in BIOS mode
  • Fix a regression that prevented the opening of .vhd images (#2309)
  • Update UEFI:NTFS to report a more explicit error on bootmgr security issues
  • Improve the search for conflicting processes, by running it in a background thread
  • Improve support for Slax Linux (#2336)

Rufus 4.3 BETA​

  • Add support for symlink preservation when NTFS is used
  • Add an exception to enforce NTFS for Linux Mint's LMDE
  • Add an expert feature to restrict a Windows installation to S Mode
  • Fix persistence support for Debian 12 in BIOS mode
  • Fix a regression that prevented the opening of .vhd images (#2309)
  • Update UEFI:NTFS to report a more explicit error on bootmgr security issues
  • Improve the search for conflicting processes, by running it in a background thread
  • Improve support for Slax Linux (#2336)
 
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OP edited with latest Stable and Beta release changelogs and links.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 Current build
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
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    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
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    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
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    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
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    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
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    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
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    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spectrum ES07DC9 4K Gaming Monitor (Glossy)
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD (USB)
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    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
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    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
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    NZXT KRAKEN Z73 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (3x 120 mm push top) + Air 3x 140mm case fans (pull front) + 1x 120 mm (push back) and 1 x 120 mm (pull bottom)
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for Business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable), Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB 5 Beta
  • Operating System
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
For me, the reason for wanting to try to get tasks done without third-party utilities is just pure curiosity. I want to know as much as I can about Windows, and part of that is just a curiosity to see if a particular task could be accomplished without other utilities. It's just that I am often surprised how much functionality is already available.

By no means would I ever suggest not using third-party utilities. I just like to point out other ways to accomplish a task when they are available.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
For me, the reason for wanting to try to get tasks done without third-party utilities is just pure curiosity. I want to know as much as I can about Windows, and part of that is just a curiosity to see if a particular task could be accomplished without other utilities. It's just that I am often surprised how much functionality is already available.

By no means would I ever suggest not using third-party utilities. I just like to point out other ways to accomplish a task when they are available.

We all have certain preferences, I am glad for the diversity. It gives me options reading other peoples preferences and I appreciate it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Full Tower
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
We all have certain preferences, I am glad for the diversity. It gives me options reading other peoples preferences and I appreciate it.
Bingo! Excellent summary. I like having choices.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Bingo! Excellent summary. I like having choices.
Choices are good . . . we used to have lots more choices than we do now.

When Windows 10 was released, I made a conscious decision to use the new Settings Menu and learn everything I could before going out there looking for a solution that I might already have in Windows.

Because I had a problem with my taskbar being hidden by something or other (can't remember what now), I needed it to be on top of my screen, but MS took that choice away from me. So, I tried Explorer Patcher and (I think) Start All Back. I also wanted QuickLaunch back! The end result was that I didn't like the way EP kept getting trashed with almost every Windows Update. There was a learning curve I didn't like either.

Yeppers, in the end, my original problem disappeared and I can now paste what I use most on my taskbar. So, in the end, it's just easier to find a way to do what I want in Windows. However, that said, if need be, I will definitely use a third party app.

So, I will accept the best solution I can find, be it built into Windows or out there in Third Party App land.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 22631.2861
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Motherboard
    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
    Memory
    16384 MBytes
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
    Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
    PSU
    HP
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    Standard
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    500 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's all Folks!
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x
    Hard Drives
    SSD (512 GB)
    HDD (1 TB)
    Seagate
    PSU
    Intel i7 10th Generation
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    HP/Intel?
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox 90.2
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Headphone/Microphone Combo
    SuperSpeed USB Type-A (4 on front)
    HP 3-in-One Card Readr
    SuperSpeed USB Type-C
    DVD Writer
Disagree. But hear me out.

If a person advocates readers only using built-in utilities, that is one thing. I agree with you wholeheartedly in your statement.

But when a person freely admits that they, themselves, have a penchant desire to avoid using 3rd party utilities, it is in no way binding on anyone else, and because of the admission of the fact that this is the way that they do it should never be taken as a mandate that everyone else should also do this.
Just because an expression is in no way binding on anyone else, doesn't necessarily also mean that it can't be part of stigmatization. By being repeatedly vocal about adhering to relentless avoidance, it also is possible to create an aura of negativity in such a particular way that it will undoubtedly increase the chance of others copying the behavior, which may cause it to spread and gain more traction especially among those specific people who live in a bubble. It also can happen subconsciously, though.
That's like saying I enjoy driving my 2007 Infiniti M35 because of its great V6. That does not equate to "I think everyone reading my post should only be driving a 2007 Infiniti M35" in any way, manner, shape, or form, and anyone who does take it that way needs to go back and read more carefully. Read the words for what they are, and less for what you think they mean.
One of the main important reasons why stigmatization often works great for those who stigmatize is exactly because, due to cognitive bias, people are naturally inclined to read words for what people think the words mean. When they read words, people are not always consciously aware that they are thinking about what the words mean. To gain such awareness, people often must think first about whether what they're thinking is about what the words mean, which is commonly thought to be "a little too much thinking". People who stigmatize don't necessarily always do it because they intend to cause some kind of harm, but they can stigmatize unkowingly by using words that may still influence others.
As for why a person would make such an admission - personal preference is a great place to start. Self-developed methods and tools is another.

One thing that comes from using built in tools is that you don't have a reliance on a tool that might not always be available to you at any given moment.
Microsoft does not in any way guarantee that the built-in tools of Windows will be available to you at any given moment. Case in point, Windows features are breaking all the time, it literally can take centuries for Microsoft to fix them, and Microsoft are deleting features at a rate that would sometimes appear like it could be multiple times faster than you can drive your car with the V6 engine.
Another is that you get to learn the inner workings of they system, making you able to troubleshoot things more easily
The use of 3rd party utilities does not really prevent me from learning the inner workings of the system. To the contrary, being able to compare 3rd party utilities with the built-in ones lets me learn additional details about the various many shortcomings that are related directly to the inner workings of the system.
, but also, if you're the type like I am, you simply enjoy learning and committing to memory how this can be done without any need to downloading anything from anywhere.
Of course. But learning this can also be done regardless of whether you use 3rd party utilities.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
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    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
Just because an expression is in no way binding on anyone else, doesn't necessarily also mean that it can't be part of stigmatization. By being repeatedly vocal about adhering to relentless avoidance, it also is possible to create an aura of negativity in such a particular way that it will undoubtedly increase the chance of others copying the behavior, which may cause it to spread and gain more traction especially among those specific people who live in a bubble. It also can happen subconsciously, though.

Neither does it mean it is guaranteed to be a part of the stigmatization. But your post implied that it is.

One of the main important reasons why stigmatization often works great for those who stigmatize is exactly because, due to cognitive bias, people are naturally inclined to read words for what people think the words mean. When they read words, people are not always consciously aware that they are thinking about what the words mean. To gain such awareness, people often must think first about whether what they're thinking is about what the words mean, which is commonly thought to be "a little too much thinking". People who stigmatize don't necessarily always do it because they intend to cause some kind of harm, but they can stigmatize unkowingly by using words that may still influence others.

And one of the main reasons sites like this work is because you have a diverse set of options presented whenever someone asks for help. Not only for the OP, but for anyone reading the thread at a later date because they have the same issue, question, or request. And if a person succumbs to this because of a so-called lack of this awareness that you speak of, then that would mean that no one, ever, would be able to offer any advice or opinion - because every person's opinion on everything would then be open to being regarded as the basis of some sort of stigmatization.

So, you're basically saying that @z3r010 should shut all his forums down because a single subset of people here (everyone offering opinions for others asking for advice or support) is, in some way, causing some sort of imagined stigmatization.

It would be just as readily caused by someone coming into this thread, or any one like it, and saying

Using PowerShell scripts is a PITA, I have to open Terminal or Power shell, then find where the script is located, then run it, and make sure I have to correct parameters set and modules imported to load. Instead, I use XYZ app.

There have been more than a few posts like this about using internal / built-in / native tools when they were suggested. But these don't also cause this so-called stigmatization?

Because, if they do, you've basically given John a reason why the forums should no longer offer advice, and particularly any individual's opinionated advice, at any given time or in any given thread here.

Microsoft does not in any way guarantee that the built-in tools of Windows will be available to you at any given moment. Case in point, Windows features are breaking all the time, it literally can take centuries for Microsoft to fix them, and Microsoft are deleting features at a rate that would sometimes appear like it could be multiple times faster than you can drive your car with the V6 engine.

I never once mention any sort of guarantee of availability. I instead mention that the 3rd party tools may not be available. And Windows own tools breaking are not all of the service requests nor software advice given in this forum - or in any forum, really. So, I have no idea where you're trying to take this. But this wonderful quotation does go right back to your point of

people are not always consciously aware that they are thinking about what the words mean.
You're obviously over thinking what I've written there.

The use of 3rd party utilities does not really prevent me from learning the inner workings of the system. To the contrary, being able to compare 3rd party utilities with the built-in ones lets me learn additional details about the various many shortcomings that are related directly to the inner workings of the system.

How do you compare the two if you don't use the native tools? How do you use the native tools if you don't learn how to use them?

You're taking this entirely too far, dude. Sorry, but I call total BS on your idea of stigmatization. Anyone reading these posts in this and all the similar threads like this is allowed to make their own choice. The only stigma here is that some people don't like to hear alternatives that don't fit their perception of what they want to use.

The real stigmatization is your own reaction to their advice. And I'm not bothering with the rest of this because, frankly, you're over blowing the idea from nothing into something - or, rather, making a mountain out of a molehill.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 Current build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spectrum ES07DC9 4K Gaming Monitor (Glossy)
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD (USB)
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    NZXT KRAKEN Z73 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (3x 120 mm push top) + Air 3x 140mm case fans (pull front) + 1x 120 mm (push back) and 1 x 120 mm (pull bottom)
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for Business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable), Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB 5 Beta
  • Operating System
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
Interesting discussion. I would say that you could be stigmatizing the use of Windows built-in tools as being bad. That ship can sail in both directions :-)

Yes, I'm joking, but you get my point, I hope.

Also, saying that Microsoft stuff breaks - have you never seen third-party tools break as well? Also, I hope that you realize that many third-party tools rely upon these functions in Windows. Often times those tools simply serve as front ends for underlying functionality within Windows.

The point is simply that there is often more than one way to do something. For those of us that like to learn new things about Windows, learning how to do things natively opens doors to new possibilities.

As an example, this has allowed me to write a programs to automate many tasks. All these capabilities are possible for me only because I know the secret sauce that makes all these tasks possible.

Never do I bash other tools that accomplish these same tasks. In fact, I acknowledge that I keep these tools in my own essential tools kit.

It comes down to this: When using tools like Rufus, have you never wondered how they accomplish what they are doing? I have. I like to figure out what they are doing behind the curtain. One of the great things about a tool like Rufus is that you can look at the source code to see how it works. You can learn a lot from that.

Look, I get it. Most people could care less about how stuff works in the background. Windows is a simply a tool to be used to run your programs and get real work done. They would rather run a simple utility, and get the task done. In fact, a lot of the time, I fall into that category. But often I'll make a note to myself to figure out other ways to perform that same task at a later date.

I just like to share alternative ways to accomplish a task for those that might have an interest in such things. In fact, you may note that many tutorials on this site do the same thing - they often show two or three or even more ways to accomplish a task.
 

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Neither does it mean it is guaranteed to be a part of the stigmatization. But your post implied that it is.
Absolutely not. It only adds the impression that it is. "The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."
And one of the main reasons sites like this work is because you have a diverse set of options presented whenever someone asks for help. Not only for the OP, but for anyone reading the thread at a later date because they have the same issue, question, or request. And if a person succumbs to this because of a so-called lack of this awareness that you speak of, then that would mean that no one, ever, would be able to offer any advice or opinion - because every person's opinion on everything would then be open to being regarded as the basis of some sort of stigmatization.
Aside from just jokes, you don't see me post anything that could even remotely suggest that I believe using the built-in tools is almost always a poor choice. Either you have very poor reading comprehension skills or else you are trying to stigmatize me by claiming that you see me post it anyway. The reality is that anyone who has been reading my posts already knows that I am not against using the built-in tools, as I use them for a lot of things.
So, you're basically saying that @z3r010 should shut all his forums down because a single subset of people here (everyone offering opinions for others asking for advice or support) is, in some way, causing some sort of imagined stigmatization.
In your own imagination, yes, that could certainly be it.
It would be just as readily caused by someone coming into this thread, or any one like it, and saying
Nah. As you already know, you don't necessarily have to open Windows Terminal for that, but especially on slower machines it can take a short moment before PowerShell starts and runs the command or script so, there can be a noticeable delay that easily contributes to why using PowerShell isn't always the best answer, even though it very often can be. Where feasible, I tend to often avoid this delay by using other built-in tools such as, e.g., the command prompt or a batchfile, Windows Scripting Host, and the C# compiler (csc.exe) that is part of the .NET Framework. The latter is installed on Windows 11 already by default.
There have been more than a few posts like this about using internal / built-in / native tools when they were suggested. But these don't also cause this so-called stigmatization?
Of course not. There is a big difference between using the built-in tools and being vocal about refusing to use 3rd party tools for anything besides small exceptions.
Because, if they do, you've basically given John a reason why the forums should no longer offer advice, and particularly any individual's opinionated advice, at any given time or in any given thread here.
See above. Also, I like turtles.
I never once mention any sort of guarantee of availability. I instead mention that the 3rd party tools may not be available. And Windows own tools breaking are not all of the service requests nor software advice given in this forum - or in any forum, really. So, I have no idea where you're trying to take this. But this wonderful quotation does go right back to your point of
Similarly, the built-in tools may not be available. So, it is a strawman argument, as this obviously cuts both ways and therefore doesn't add any logical reason why anyone would want to, with only very few exceptions, avoid 3rd party tools.
You're obviously over thinking what I've written there.
Not really. The part you quoted was just to clarify my response. It's human psychology 101. Nothing more, nothing less.
How do you compare the two if you don't use the native tools? How do you use the native tools if you don't learn how to use them?
See above. Using 3rd party tools does not in any way prevent me from using the native tools, and, I never claimed that I don't use the native tools. I do use the native tools, and use them for a lot of things actually. Sometimes they eliminate the need for a 3rd party tool. Sometimes they do not. There can be pros and cons. To be able to learn what are the pros and cons, I use both 3rd party tools and native tools. Or at the very minimum I investigate them both. My only real preference is knowing the important facts (if they affect my workflow and/or could potentially affect other people's workflow) before I pick my choice, and I also like to share this knowledge. (Even, if I'm not going to make many friends by sharing it, as people can still always choose to make friends on asocial media if that's their thing.)
You're taking this entirely too far, dude. Sorry, but I call total BS on your idea of stigmatization. Anyone reading these posts in this and all the similar threads like this is allowed to make their own choice. The only stigma here is that some people don't like to hear alternatives that don't fit their perception of what they want to use.
It isn't my idea of stigmatization. Stigmatization is the action of describing or regarding someone or something as worthy of disgrace or great disapproval so, do you mean to tell me that being vocal about relentlessly avoiding 3rd party tools is not adding the clear impression of great disapproval? lol...
The real stigmatization is your own reaction to their advice. And I'm not bothering with the rest of this because, frankly, you're over blowing the idea from nothing into something - or, rather, making a mountain out of a molehill.
So, here's my little piece of advice. Look up the definition of stigmatization, and, when you do, be sure to read the definition for what the definition truly is. Have a nice day!
 

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Also, saying that Microsoft stuff breaks - have you never seen third-party tools break as well? Also, I hope that you realize that many third-party tools rely upon these functions in Windows. Often times those tools simply serve as front ends for underlying functionality within Windows.
Microsoft stuff does break. Thankfully, it does. (I'd have to find myself a new job if it didn't.)
 

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Can we get back to Rusus now?
 

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Absolutely not. It only adds the impression that it is. "The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

Aside from this, I don't see a whole lot of logical reasons why anyone would want to try to avoid, almost altogether, 3rd party utilities. It really does add the impression of trying to overly stigmatize the bulk of 3rd party utilities.

So, it adds the impression, which we're to ignore, but which you are pointing out nonetheless, even though we're to ignore it.

Disagree. And I'm done with this. You're arguing in circles for whatever reason, and I agree with Wynona - this is about Rufus, nothing more.
 

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So, it adds the impression, which we're to ignore, but which you are pointing out nonetheless, even though we're to ignore it.
Whether you're to ignore it is entirely up to you to decide.
Disagree. And I'm done with this. You're arguing in circles for whatever reason, and I agree with Wynona - this is about Rufus, nothing more.
Let me set this straight. It was about Rufus until someone deemed it necessary to add an impression to it.
 

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No, it was about Rufus until you decided to not ignore said impression.
 

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Speaking for myself, I'm at that stage in my life that I'll take the easiest way to get something done when possible.
Sounds like you have a plan there! :D Here I ran into a snag with the hardware limitation and DUAL BIOS board still seeing UEFI but not higher then the TPM 1.2 level being an "INCOMPATIBLE WITH HARDWARE" issue trying to make up a bootable flash drive for 11. The flash drive was bootable easily enough but it was Rufus that stalled to see the Windows installer fire up!
Besides seeing if a TPM module installed on the present board will work another option being considered is from neosmart however for their create bootable cd/flash drive app. The free version won't proceed but let you see how it works.
 

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Rufus 4.3 has been released:
  • Add support for Rock Ridge symbolic links preservation when NTFS is used
  • Add an exception to enforce NTFS for Linux Mint's LMDE
  • Add an expert feature to restrict a Windows installation to S Mode
  • Fix persistence support for Debian 12 when booted in BIOS mode
  • Fix a regression that prevented the opening of .vhd images
  • Update UEFI:NTFS to report a more explicit error on bootmgr security issues
  • Improve the search for conflicting processes by running it in a background thread
  • Improve support for Slax Linux
 

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OP updated with links and changelog.
 

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    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for Business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable), Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB 5 Beta
  • Operating System
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
Rufus 4.4 has now been released:
  • Add workaround for distros that use broken symbolic links as their UEFI bootloaders (such as Mint 21.3)
  • Add support for GRUB 2.12
  • Fix a crash when saving .ffu images
  • Fix UEFI:NTFS partition not being added, in MBR mode, for some Linux ISOs
  • Prevent Microsoft Dev Drives from being listed
  • Improve support for SDXC card readers
  • Improve Large FAT32 formatting by aligning start of data regions to 1 MB (courtesy of Fred)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    Screen Resolution
    4k
The point is simply that there is often more than one way to do something. For those of us that like to learn new things about Windows, learning how to do things natively opens doors to new possibilities.

As an example, this has allowed me to write a programs to automate many tasks. All these capabilities are possible for me only because I know the secret sauce that makes all these tasks possible.
Totally agree - I have a number of batch files that use native command rather than dism.

One in particular creates a custom install.wim of one pc, injects drivers into install.wim (and irst drivers) into boot.wim, and create an iso, and a custom usb installation drive.

If I did not have this batch file, I would rely on several 3rd party tools e.g. Macrium Reflect, Minitool Partition Wizard and Rufus. Each of these has a place in a users app portfolio, but gluing them together with your secret sauce is nigh on impossible.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0

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