Since 22H2, File Explorer windows sometimes spontaneously move to the front


Hi, I'm having the same problem, has anyone found a fix yet? Would reinstalling Windows be a solution to this problem?
That's kind of an extreme step, unless it bothers you that much.
Microsoft will (hopefully) fix it eventually, probably in one of the next few upcoming builds.
 

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That's kind of an extreme step, unless it bothers you that much.
Microsoft will (hopefully) fix it eventually, probably in one of the next few upcoming builds.
Is there nothing we can do to fix it ourselves? This issue has been really annoying for me. But I'm concerned that reinstalling Windows won't fix this problem. Thanks
 

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Hi,
Never be surprised at what happens in developer or insider builds
Use the feedback hub.
I've not seen this on mainstream updates yet.
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Happened again at precisely the same time as always, 18:31.
Disabling Nvidia telemetry did nothing sadly.

Are you guys getting this issue more than once per day? Anyone else that it happens on a specific time?
 

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Happened again at precisely the same time as always, 18:31.
Disabling Nvidia telemetry did nothing sadly.

Are you guys getting this issue more than once per day? Anyone else that it happens on a specific time?
For me it happened within seconds of 11:41 am every thursday-saturday for 2-3 weeks. Yesterday it happened at 5:05 pm. But on days it happens for me it happens once per day
 

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I did a change yesterday and today I didn't get the issue at 18:31, or at all.

I noticed yesterday when monitoring TCP activity through TcpLogView that widget.exe was phoning MS a lot eventhough I have no widgets.
And widget.exe is always running in the bg eventhough Widgets is unchecked in windows settings.

So following this guide How do I prevent Widgets.exe from getting automatically started on Windows 11? I un-installed "windows web experience pack" through Powershell, see the link. This makes sure widgets.exe isn't running in the bg or sending packets through tcp.

I'm not sure this was the culprit or not, the bug might be back tomorrow who knows, but it's worth trying if you dont use widgets. And "windows web experience pack" can easily be re-installed with powershell again.
 

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I did a change yesterday and today I didn't get the issue at 18:31, or at all.

I noticed yesterday when monitoring TCP activity through TcpLogView that widget.exe was phoning MS a lot eventhough I have no widgets.
And widget.exe is always running in the bg eventhough Widgets is unchecked in windows settings.

So following this guide How do I prevent Widgets.exe from getting automatically started on Windows 11? I un-installed "windows web experience pack" through Powershell, see the link. This makes sure widgets.exe isn't running in the bg or sending packets through tcp.

I'm not sure this was the culprit or not, the bug might be back tomorrow who knows, but it's worth trying if you dont use widgets. And "windows web experience pack" can easily be re-installed with powershell again.
I always remove widget.exe when I first set up the system. File explorer sometimes comes to the fore on its head though
 

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    Huawei Matebook D15 Ryzen 5500U 8GB / 512 SSD, Windows 11 Home Single Language
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    Ryzen 5500U
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    Logitech K380, G15
    Mouse
    Logi m350, Everest SM-620, Logitech G9, Lecoo WS210
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    Chrome (Desktop), Vivaldi (Mobile)
    Antivirus
    Windows Security, (Alternative Eset)
FWIW, I've not had this experience on either of my two computers. I'm not a Windows Insider member. You can see my computer specs and how I use my computers by clicking on "My Computers" below.
 

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    11th Gen i9 -11900H
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    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
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    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
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    Microsoft Surface Pro 7
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    i5
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    8 GB
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    256GB SSD
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    900 Mbps Netgear Orbi + 2 Satellites
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    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
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    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
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I did a change yesterday and today I didn't get the issue at 18:31, or at all.

I noticed yesterday when monitoring TCP activity through TcpLogView that widget.exe was phoning MS a lot eventhough I have no widgets.
And widget.exe is always running in the bg eventhough Widgets is unchecked in windows settings.

So following this guide How do I prevent Widgets.exe from getting automatically started on Windows 11? I un-installed "windows web experience pack" through Powershell, see the link. This makes sure widgets.exe isn't running in the bg or sending packets through tcp.

I'm not sure this was the culprit or not, the bug might be back tomorrow who knows, but it's worth trying if you dont use widgets. And "windows web experience pack" can easily be re-installed with powershell again.

It ain't widgets. I did the "winget uninstall" on them a long time ago, long before 22H2 introduced this new problem.
 

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It's like it would come when it can annoys you the most.
each time i am working on a project in vs code it would jump up to mess with every thought i had.
 

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    AMD Ryzen 5 5600x 6-core
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    Asus B550M-A (wi-fi)
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    Gigabyte 2x8GB DDR4 1333.3
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER
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    Integrated
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    SAMSUNG C24F390
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    SATA SSD
    PSU
    530W
    Cooling
    Cooler master
    Browser
    FireFox
    Antivirus
    ESET
:wink: My solution :

Run PowerShell as Administrator and type:

Powershell:
winget uninstall "windows web experience pack"

Restart PC and the problem is over :thumbsup:
 

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Did that resolve the issue for you? I posted this as a possible solution in this thread.

I and at least one other poster who had done this for other reasons long before the Explorer problem began have stated it doesn't help.
 

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:wink: My solution :

Run PowerShell as Administrator and type:

Powershell:
winget uninstall "windows web experience pack"

Restart PC and the problem is over :thumbsup:
Does not work, sorry.
Problem persists. But thanks for the tip.
 

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    Windows 11 RP
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkCentre M75Q-1
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 3400GE @3.30 GHz (4.0 GHz Turbo)
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 3151
    Memory
    20 GB DDR4 2666 (1x16GB + 1x4GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon Vega 11
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC 2369
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 512 GB NVME + SPCC 240GB SATA SSD
    PSU
    External 65W
    Case
    Mini (1L)
I've also been having the same problem since 22H2, but I've also narrowed my cause down to when the computer group policy refreshes, even if nothing has changed (this defaults to every 90 minutes with up to 30 minute random offset either side of that).

It's event ID 1500 in the event log (system log specifically) so perhaps others could check to see if they're finding this too? (if you're not connected to a domain you're not going to have any policy refreshes).
 

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    Custom Build
    CPU
    i7-12700K
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Z690 Edge WiFi
    Memory
    64GB (2x32GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance RGB RS
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    GTX 970
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    Realtek (Onboard)
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    Samsung SM2443BW, 2 x Samsung B1940
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    1920x1200, 2 x 1280x1024
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    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB, Samsung 980 1TB
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    Corsair RM1000x
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    Thermaltake View 71 ARGB
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    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE LCD
    Keyboard
    Corsair K55 RGB Pro XT
    Mouse
    Corsair Nightsword RGB
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbit
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    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Symantec
I've also been having the same problem since 22H2, but I've also narrowed my cause down to when the computer group policy refreshes, even if nothing has changed (this defaults to every 90 minutes with up to 30 minute random offset either side of that).

It's event ID 1500 in the event log (system log specifically) so perhaps others could check to see if they're finding this too? (if you're not connected to a domain you're not going to have any policy refreshes).

I'm not connected to a domain, so this isn't a necessary factor.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
None of you having this problem has indicated what version of 11 you are running. (My guess would be one of the insider builds.) For me, the release version has never had this problem. Search your feedback hub to see if others on insider have reported the same problem and if MS has responded.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
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    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
None of you having this problem has indicated what version of 11 you are running. (My guess would be one of the insider builds.) For me, the release version has never had this problem. Search your feedback hub to see if others on insider have reported the same problem and if MS has responded.

I'm running the release version. If I was running an Insider version, I would have said so.

ETA: Actually, in my OP, I did specify my OS: Windows 11 22H2 (OS Build 22621.819)
 
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