Spontaneous Windows 11 crash while lying in bed listening to white noise, booted to BIOS


Restart WDV with all customized tests except:

[ ] 0x00000004 Randomized low resources simulation.
 

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Oh shoot, I just realized there were actually some other non-microsoft drivers I didn't select. Anything after M alphabetically I didn't select
 

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zbook said:
Restart WDV with all customized tests except:

[ ] 0x00000004 Randomized low resources simulation.
Click to expand...
should I still do this, making sure to include them all this time? sorry
 

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13th Gen Intel Core i7-13700k
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Yes
 

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all tests except Randomized low resources simulation, making sure to include everything. no BSOD
 

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Windows 11
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13th Gen Intel Core i7-13700k
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Z790 AORUS ELITE AX
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G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070
Restart WDV with
create custom settings
all customized tests
automatically select all drivers installed on this computer
 

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NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
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I reset the Verifier then restarted my computer, it completed the shutdown portion but right now my computer is turned on and the monitor is black when it should be rebooting. it took a bit longer to restart after doing more tests the last time, it seems like restarting the computer after doing more tests takes longer. it's taking quite a while though...
 

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Motherboard
Z790 AORUS ELITE AX
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WDV will stress the CPU.
There can be slow boots too.
 

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HP
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I guess I will just wait for it to restart then. still just looking at a black screen.

I guess I'll ask in the meantime, what are we hoping to learn from these tests? I was getting the BSODs when the Logitech drivers were being tested, and not since then. it seems like the Logitech drivers are the clear culprit right? what else are we trying to learn
 

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Windows 11
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PC/Desktop
CPU
13th Gen Intel Core i7-13700k
Motherboard
Z790 AORUS ELITE AX
Memory
G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070
it's been trying to restart for just over 15 minutes now. I'm a little concerned it's taking this long to post to BIOS. is this normal?
 

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Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
CPU
13th Gen Intel Core i7-13700k
Motherboard
Z790 AORUS ELITE AX
Memory
G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070
Logitech drivers were recurrent misbehaving after fresh installations.

The additional testing is to double / triple check.


Restart WDV with the settings in post #45 > run for 24 hours > if there are no BSOD > update Windows > post a new V2 > if there are no BSOD that will complete the troubleshooting.

Boot into safe mode with multiple power offs as needed.
 

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Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard
Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
Memory
16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
Hard Drives
Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
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Microsoft Defender
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Mobile Workstation
Right now I can't do anything, it's still trying to restart. should I leave it be or should I try turning it off and on again or something?
 

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Windows 11
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CPU
13th Gen Intel Core i7-13700k
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Z790 AORUS ELITE AX
Memory
G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070
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If option #9 does not work after multiple attempts the perform option #7
 

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Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
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16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
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NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
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Alright, a simple power off and on booted normally. Verifier successfully reset. So, assuming the Logitech drivers are the only problem (and it sure seems like they are), does that mean I simply can't use Logitech software on my system?
 

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Windows 11
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13th Gen Intel Core i7-13700k
Motherboard
Z790 AORUS ELITE AX
Memory
G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070
There were no WDV GPU BSOD.

They were all Logitech.

It's best to report to Logitech and find alternative software / drivers.
 

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Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
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Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
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Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
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16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
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Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender
Other Info
Mobile Workstation
Foogoo said:
No crash
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Clearly zbook has got this handled. I'm just wondering if you updated your BIOS before you did all this work. If so, great. The reason I'm asking is because I just discovered yesterday that I needed to re-flash my BIOS after my own little recent mishap. If you do have regular peripherals that don't require specialized drivers or software (like LOGI does) it might help to use those standard peripherals to get your system back in order. Personally, I'm weaning myself off Logitech and I'm nearly done with them. They are definitely NOT the Logitech of yesteryear. Fortunately my speakers don't need the specialized software and my web cam works fine without it. Trust me when I say that spinning "L" isn't worth the trouble.
 

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Thanks a lot for the help everyone, especially you zbook
 

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Windows 1113th Gen Intel Core i7-13700kG.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 ...NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070
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Windows 11
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CPU
13th Gen Intel Core i7-13700k
Motherboard
Z790 AORUS ELITE AX
Memory
G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070
Scannerman said:
Clearly zbook has got this handled. I'm just wondering if you updated your BIOS before you did all this work. If so, great. The reason I'm asking is because I just discovered yesterday that I needed to re-flash my BIOS after my own little recent mishap. If you do have regular peripherals that don't require specialized drivers or software (like LOGI does) it might help to use those standard peripherals to get your system back in order. Personally, I'm weaning myself off Logitech and I'm nearly done with them. They are definitely NOT the Logitech of yesteryear. Fortunately my speakers don't need the specialized software and my web cam works fine without it. Trust me when I say that spinning "L" isn't worth the trouble.
Click to expand...
I did update my BIOS firs yes. And yeah, Logitech is not the company that won my loyalty 16 years ago when I bought the keyboard I'm still using to this day. They used to make good products, but now those products rely on a company that has become rubbish and software that's rubbish as a result. Really disappointing. I'm just gonna have to use my mouse and keyboard with their basic on-board features without the drivers.
 

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Windows 1113th Gen Intel Core i7-13700kG.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 ...NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070
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Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
CPU
13th Gen Intel Core i7-13700k
Motherboard
Z790 AORUS ELITE AX
Memory
G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070
FYI, 23H2 has an issue where you can't use DDU in regular Windows mode anymore. I could with 22H2!
With 23H2, you must be in safe mode, or Windows freezes during DDU.
 

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Foogoo said:
Thanks a lot for the help everyone, especially you zbook
Click to expand...

You're welcome.


If you have a lot of free time:

a) Make free or pay backup images and save them to another drive or the cloud
b) Clean install Windows 10 or 11
c) Install Logitech software / drivers
d) Test with WDV
e) When testing has completed restore an image
 

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Windows 10Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryTyp...NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
OS
Windows 10
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
Motherboard
Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
Memory
16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
Hard Drives
Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender
Other Info
Mobile Workstation
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