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How about here on the forum?

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The forum software doesn't support the upload yet, but there is pretty much universal modern browser support, so I've been swapping out site graphics from PNGs to the much smaller webp for a while now wherever I can get away with it.
 

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... I've been swapping out site graphics from PNGs to the much smaller webp for a while now wherever I can get away with it.
I see that! (y)

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WPV (Win Photo Viewer) can't recognize the "webp" format correctly, it can't determine its colour profile. Whenever you open a "webp" image with WPV it has no assigned colour profile. Google (Picasa) is a webp's parent! Picasa knows its native image format (webp) and assigns the correct colour profile to it (usually sRGB). The image is darker because it has no colour profile assigned to it (in WPV). Save it as a JPG (in a photo editor app like th new Paint), and it would be normal in WPV.
 

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The forum software doesn't support the upload yet, but there is pretty much universal modern browser support, so I've been swapping out site graphics from PNGs to the much smaller webp for a while now wherever I can get away with it.
Every time I want to edit an image (saved from 11F) and re-upload it to the forum, I have a problem. It saves images as PNG and doesn't open in photo editors like Ps (cause its original format is webp, and PNG is just a name at the end of it!). We have to save it again as webp or jpg... and open it in Ps. Or change its extension to webp while saving from the webpage, to be recognizable in Ps.

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Every time I want to edit an image (saved from 11F) and re-upload it to the forum, I have a problem. It saves images as PNG and doesn't open in photo editors like Ps (cause its original format is webp, and PNG is just a name at the end of it!). We have to save it again as webp or jpg... and open it in Ps. Or change its extension to webp while saving from the webpage, to be recognizable in Ps.

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Same images (one saved as its original format, another one saved as webp) from 11F
That will be due to the on-the-fly webp conversion of suitable images by our CDN provider for faster page loads.
 

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Do you mean double convert?! If yes, I think it is not worth it! I have seen Mr Brink's tutorial images which have awful quality (even worse than JPG).
 

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Do you mean double convert?! If yes, I think it is not worth it! I have seen Mr Brink's tutorial images which have awful quality (even worse than JPG).
Honestly, I don't care what you think of the image quality and if you need to convert it, it's all about page load speed and if I think they look good enough for their purpose - which I do.
 

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It doesn't mean which one is better (my thought or your desire!). Just saying the quality is not good enough. It's not my business! Do what you want.
 

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MS store never fails to install bloatware, but it fails to install previously installed libraries.

Thanks Tairiku. You suggest to install all those to fix the problem ?
 

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Just change the extender from webp to jpg and all will be well :)

Are you serious ? No way i am gonna rename and damage then of thousands of images and manually change extensions many times a day.

But thanks anyway :-)
 

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Stop downloading images from Google!!! :p

I have not downloaded from google for two weeks, and the problem persists. Thankas for your suggestion, but it is false advice.
 

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You can add slide show to the context menu using the following tutorial:


and it works with webp images as well as .jpg etc.

Thanks Senico. This might work for some people. But makes browsing though a few images somewhere in thr middle of a directory eith thousands of files a task that take hours. i do not have the time, and the will power, to do that.
 

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I've been moving over to using webp from PNG files recently, I use IrfanView (with plugins) as my image viewer, and it handles everything.

Thanks Z, I might need to do that. Since Win11 is incapable to do this simple task. I wonder why they did not implement this ?!? Are there legal issues preventing Microsoft from properly supporting webp ?
 

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Simply rename the file extension from .webp to .jpg for each file. No file conversion is needed, they become regular .jpg files that can be opened with any program that supports standard .jpg files like normal.

Changing the extension will also change the file. How is that possible ?

I had expected they will become webp files with the incorrect extension.
 

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I am surprised getting so many suggestions that only work for a grandma who have two images on their computer and nebver gets anything new. Don't you guys need to use your computers effeciently ? or use computers do do actual work or make money ? :-)
 

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Change the extension to JPG, then open it with the Photos app (or Snipping Tool) and Save it as JPG again!

Have a look at this one:

Thanks AT. Seems many people want me to rename files. Probably for the rest of my life. But altough that will work perfectly I think it is kind of a crazy dum solution. I would like to simply click < and > and browse though a directory with images. First browsing through the directory to find all webp image and renaming them is not a efficient solution.

As suggested I will try infranview again. I hope the look and feel is better than 20+ years ago.
 
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Changing the extension will also change the file. How is that possible ?

I had expected they will become webp files with the incorrect extension.
It's just a simple little trick that works most of the time (for pictures anyway). It's also a fairly popular "conversion" method, as you can just batch rename multiple files at once, and, if it turns out that the pic(s) get(s) darkened as a result from this, then you can still open the webp file(s) in MS Paint and save it/them as .jpg to work around that problem. I don't download webp files that often anyway, but if you do, then I can understand that you probably need a better solution.

That said, there does exist an official (from Google) conversion tool, dwebp, that lets you convert webp picture files to the png file format, but then you'd still need to convert from png to jpg next so, not exactly a handy solution either. A better solution IMO is this:
Only one small problem, the two dll files (libwebp_x64.dll and libwebp_x86.dll) still need to be compiled for that to work, as the libwebp-1.2.4.tar.gz archive that you can download from Google only contains the source code written in C++ so, to be able to run nmake like described here, you need to have Visual Studio. Visual Studio 2022 Community Edition – Download Latest Free Version
(Nowadays VS Code also lets you use makefiles via an official plugin for it from Microsoft, but I haven't tried that myself.)

On a side note, the day before yesterday I had received four jpeg photos via email and I tried to open them with the Photo app after saving them to a new folder onto my desktop. One of these files refused to show up on the filmstrip control at the bottom. Doubleclicking on the file in File Explorer opened the file just fine, BUT... strangely, this time around, another one of the four files was missing from the filmstrip. The old Windows Photo Viewer program had no such problems, it displayed a fullscreen slideshow of all four of the files without the slightest hitch. This new Photo app is still an absolute POS. Who knows maybe one day they might finally get it right. 🥱
 
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