Stumped - geting Install driver to show hardware, 3 different hard drives

hsehestedt · Aug 17, 2025

Scannerman said:
There's still plenty of life left in the old gal!

When October rolls around, I feel like I should put a post in my local neighborhood app and just ask anyone with older PCs they plan to dump to donate them to me. I wonder how many machines I could get running and rescue from destruction. That would be a fun project

It would be funny if I ended up with a garage full of machines.

Scannerman · Aug 17, 2025

hsehestedt said:
When October rolls around, I feel like I should put a post in my local neighborhood app and just ask anyone with older PCs they plan to dump to donate them to me. I wonder how many machines I could get running and rescue from destruction. That would be a fun project It would be funny if I ended up with a garage full of machines.

This is entirely possible. Perhaps even probable. The missuz knows I would be buried neck deep in PCs if I pulled that stunt here so es ist verboten! It really is a shame so many people will toss a PC for some of the most minor issues when it is likely capable of still adequately performing tasks they used it for. I already have a dozen PCs like this and have donated another dozen to people after I got them up and running. Believe it or not I used to do this for fun!

Sure, I have PCs I've built with brand new components but I find ways to keep them running. More often than not the problem is something simple: a loose connection, a badly needed BIOS update, a bad drive, a clogged cooler, a burnt power switch etc.

I'm choked to see people tossing in the towel on Gen 7 intel chips never mind 12th. Gen. Admittedly, sometimes stuff does go really bad but this is so rare compared to the usual reasons people abandon their PCs.

Ztruker · Aug 17, 2025

Scannerman said:
What happened? Did you go at it with a crow bar??

Sorry, by finished, I mean installed, tested and ready to use.

I clean installed Windows 10 Pro then upgraded to Windows 11 without any problems (after making these registry changes (Shift F10 and run Bypass11.bat), of which only the CPU check was necessary I believe since it has a Intel i5 7th gen processor).

reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassTPMCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassSecureBootCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassRAMCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassStorageCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassCPUCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL

Scannerman · Aug 17, 2025

Oh, *whew* :woozy:

That's good news. I have an old HP of the same vintage that still runs surprisingly snappy. One thing I can say for Win 11 is that they sure cut out a lot of the bloat ware. This is one reason why older PCs run so well on it once the hurdles are removed.

In your description you listed a Dell Vostro 3910. I'm guessing we aren't talking about the same PC here as that one (according to your description) is clearly a 12th Gen i7 unit. Many PCs over a decade old still run fine today. My personal rule of thumb is to give the thing a couple of decades before you give it up. Even then it can be a great learning tool for children. Think of the children!

hsehestedt · Aug 17, 2025

Ztruker said:
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassTPMCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassSecureBootCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassRAMCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassStorageCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassCPUCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL

To simplify, you can omit the last two in the above list. They are fictitious entries and do absolutely nothing. You will get the same exact results without those entries.

Ztruker · Aug 19, 2025

hsehestedt said:
To simplify, you can omit the last two in the above list. They are fictitious entries and do absolutely nothing. You will get the same exact results without those entries.

Thanks, I'll try that next time and see what happens.

Ztruker · Sep 2, 2025

Scannerman said:
What happened? Did you go at it with a crow bar??

Sorry, should have replied before. I installed Windows 10 then did an upgrade install to Windows 11 and it worked.

Ztruker · Sep 2, 2025

Scannerman said:
Windows 11 Pro X64 23H2 Build 26100.3194 Computer type PC/Desktop Manufacturer/Model Dell Vostro 3910 CPU 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700, 2.1Ghz Memory 32.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM Graphics Card(s) EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays Visio 32" TV Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Hard Drives 1.0TB Model NVMe ADATA LEGEND 700 GOLD
2TB Seagate ST2000NM0011 72K SATA-6GB;
2TB Seagate ST2000DM006-2DM164 72K SATA-6GB (external) PSU ? Keyboard Dell USB (KVMS) Mouse Logitec USB (KVMS) Internet Speed 374.10MB Down, 11.75MB Up Browser Edge - eM Client Pro for E-Mail Antivirus Windows Security Other Info Purchased December 2013, many upgrades since then

That computer is not finished! There's still plenty of life left in the old gal! Why abandon her in some old recycling station when she's given you so much? She just needs a little TLC. You can always save her for a backup PC. There are ways of fixing this. Don't do it! Think of the children!

Agree, see my previous post. Was able to upgrade from Windows 10 Pro to Windows 11 Pro, bypassing the drive problem.

I just started working on another, it's a Dell Optiplex 3050 that came without a hard drive so I put a 250GB PNY SSD in it and now have the same problem,

Install driver to show hardware

when I try to do a clean install. I'll try the Win 10 upgrade to Win 11 again, see if it works. Currently having problems upgrading from 10 to 11. I'll try creating a USB Win 11 drive with Rufus and see how that works.

Thanks

Scannerman · Sep 2, 2025

Ztruker said:
Agree, see my previous post. Was able to upgrade from Windows 10 Pro to Windows 11 Pro, bypassing the drive problem.

I just started working on another, it's a Dell Optiplex 3050 that came without a hard drive so I put a 250GB PNY SSD in it and now have the same problem,

Install driver to show hardware
when I try to do a clean install. I'll try the Win 10 upgrade to Win 11 again, see if it works. Currently having problems upgrading from 10 to 11. I'll try creating a USB Win 11 drive with Rufus and see how that works.

Thanks

Sometimes this happens if you had RAID previously installed on your unit or, if your BIOS is configured for RAID. Should this be the case the system is asking for the RAID driver. Other times it could be looking for a non-existent CD/DVD ROM driver. This video might provide some help in that regard.

Ztruker · Sep 3, 2025

I used Rufus to create a flash drive, booted it and was able to do a clean install, no drive problems.

Just tried to use Rufus to create another flash drive and now I get this:

Any idea why?

Ztruker · Sep 3, 2025

Okay, I used an iso I already downloaded and the problem went away so it's another Rufus ISO download problem with Microsoft.

hsehestedt · Sep 3, 2025

Ztruker said:
Okay, I used an iso I already downloaded and the problem went away so it's another Rufus ISO download problem with Microsoft.

This is precisely the sort of thing that makes me always want to know how to perform operations like this using just the native Microsoft tools. Please don't misunderstand, I have absolutely nothing against Rufus. In fact, I think that it is an excellent tool making this task so easy. I'm just saying that it never hurts to know about alternative solutions just in case one doesn't work for some odd reason.

I keep notes for myself on a lot of tasks - like installing Windows with a local account and no MS account and bypassing Win 11 specific requirements. I think my list is up to something like 7 ways to do this that all still work with the latest versions of 11.

Ztruker · Sep 3, 2025

hsehestedt said:
This is precisely the sort of thing that makes me always want to know how to perform operations like this using just the native Microsoft tools. Please don't misunderstand, I have absolutely nothing against Rufus. In fact, I think that it is an excellent tool making this task so easy. I'm just saying that it never hurts to know about alternative solutions just in case one doesn't work for some odd reason.

I keep notes for myself on a lot of tasks - like installing Windows with a local account and no MS account and bypassing Win 11 specific requirements. I think my list is up to something like 7 ways to do this that all still work with the latest versions of 11.

In this case, I could not do a clean install using a USB flash drive built by Microsoft's Media Creation Tool, it got the drive error that started this topic. I then used Rufus to create the USB flash drive and had no problem doing a clean install. It also automatically setup a local account and bypassed the Microsoft checks for non-supported hardware. It's definitely a tool worth using for Windows 11 at this time.

Scannerman · Sep 3, 2025

hsehestedt said:
This is precisely the sort of thing that makes me always want to know how to perform operations like this using just the native Microsoft tools. Please don't misunderstand, I have absolutely nothing against Rufus. In fact, I think that it is an excellent tool making this task so easy. I'm just saying that it never hurts to know about alternative solutions just in case one doesn't work for some odd reason.

I keep notes for myself on a lot of tasks - like installing Windows with a local account and no MS account and bypassing Win 11 specific requirements. I think my list is up to something like 7 ways to do this that all still work with the latest versions of 11.

I know MS did provide a page on their own web site providing instructions on how to install Windows 11 on a "non-compatible" system. Of course it included their own caveat and warning but that is how I managed to get it to run on my X99 build. I'll not forget this as that is when my TBMT flew out the Windows forever.

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