System Restore


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When is the last time you used System Restore?
I'm starting to think that it might be deprecated in the near future.

SystemPropertiesProtection.exe, which is the executable for System Protection is located in %WinDir%\System32.
SystemPropertiesProtection.exe is also located in %WinDir%\SysWOW64, but it doesn't open System Protection. It opens System Properties.

Most of the executables located in both %WinDir%\System32 and %WinDir%\SysWOW64 open to the same thing. But not SystemPropertiesProtection.exe.

Regardless of the 32-bit / 64-bit discrepancies, I think Microsoft is planning to abandon System Restore in the near future. Let's face it. It's never been the most reliable utility. As we now know, Microsoft is heading down the system image route with Point-In-Time Restore (PITR). I wouldn't even be surprised to see Microsoft acquire a fully featured image application in the future.

Thoughts? :unsure:
 
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Never once used it, not on any version of Windows.
 

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antspants said:
Never once used it, not on any version of Windows.
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Really? 😮😲

I've used it over the years. But not for a long time. I had some success with it, but also had some failures.
 

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I have used it, one thing I have found it doesn't work well with 3rd Party Security Software.
 

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    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
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I stopped using SR a while ago on all PCs and rely on Reflect for backups
 

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Microsoft Digital Media Pro
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80 Mb / s
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Chrome
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Defender, Malwarebytes Free & AdwCleaner
I've always used 3rd party backup software. Never used System Restore.

Backup Software.webp
 

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Stigg said:
When is the last time you used System Restore?
I'm starting to think that it might be deprecated in the near future.

SystemPropertiesProtection.exe, which is the executable for System Protection is located in %WinDir%\System32.
SystemPropertiesProtection.exe is also located in %WinDir%\SysWOW64, but it doesn't open System Protection. It opens System Properties.

Most of the executables located in both %WinDir%\System32 and %WinDir%\SysWOW64 open to the same thing. But not SystemPropertiesProtection.exe.

Regardless of the 32-bit / 64-bit discrepancies, I think Microsoft is planning to abandon System Restore in the near future. Let's face it. It's never been the most reliable utility. As we now know, Microsoft is heading down the system image route with Point-In-Time Restore (PITR). I wouldn't even be surprised to see Microsoft acquire a fully featured image application in the future.

Thoughts? :unsure:
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Your argument is tenuous at best as PITR or conventional restore points both need VSS. PITRs are only temporary (72 hour shelf life). I cannot say tif PITR software is independent of Restore Points or does it use much of the existing Restore Point infrastucture (my guess).

As for deprecation - Windows 11 does have full fledged image capability albeit allegedy deprecated. They deprecated it years ago but it is still there albeit MS recommend to use 3rd party tools. Actually quite a few deprecated features are still there after years of deprecation.

To some extent the meaning of deprecation has softened to mean "features will not be developed further but COULD (rather than WILL) be removed at some point in the future".

Herein lies a suble point totally lost on the boringly zealous anti-telemetry brigade i.e. MS often uses telemetry to assess if a feature is TRULY no longer used to decide to remove it (unless it is removed for different reasons e.g. security).

So maybe it will get deprecated (indeed MS wanted to remove it at outset of Windows 10 but soon realised this was not a good idea).

So I believe it will be years before it is ever removed although I accept it could get deprecated at some point in the future but unlikely for Windows 11.

If it did get deprecated, I am pretty sure that the only change we would see is that restore points would be turned off by default.
 

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Yep, Laptop has one.
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16 GB soldered
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Dell
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Memory
16 GB
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Intel(R) HD Graphics 520/Nvidia GeForce 930M
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Generic Pnp Monitor
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Too many laptops with different system specifications.
I have it activated in case of emergency. Have never used it yet. I also have powershell scripts for file backup to another drive.

There is also a backup and restore ("Windows 7") - but that is not what you meant? :) That one i recently activated as well.
Screenshot 2026-01-07 102635.webp
 

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Windows 11
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Asus
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Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 32GB
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MSI GeForce RTX 5070 12G VENTUS 2X OC
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Samsung LS32AG504
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Kingston Fury Renegade M.2 2TB SSD
PSU
Corsair RM850X 2021 / 850W / 80+ Gold
Browser
Chrome
Antivirus
Defender
I used it with Windows XP back in the day (more than 20 years ago), but only because I didn’t know how to back up my system at the time with third party applications. It was never reliable, it would use disk space in a significant way (more of a problem then with smaller capacity hard disks), and malware infections would often stick to system restore recovering points.

Nowadays with modern imaging programs it is really unnecessary, and it would make images bigger if left on for a long time. After any major upgrade of Windows I usually check if it is still off, as sometimes Windows reactivates it automatically with the upgrade.

Another reason for stopping using it was also the existence of virtual programs like ShadowUser and Shadow Defender (both abandoned software) which would instantly recover the system with a simple reboot. Again, imaging programs have become so fast nowadays that they can easily replace those applications. I still would love to have Shadow Defender on Windows 11, but that’s another topic.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 PRO 25H2
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9520
    CPU
    i7 12700H 4.7 GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell 0YD3W1
    Memory
    16 GB, DDR5, 4800
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeFORCE RTX 3050 Ti 4 GB GDDR6 45W - INTEL IRIS Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek and NVIDIA WDM
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
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    Hard Drives
    1 TB M.2 PCle NVMe SSD
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    Dell
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    Standard case
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    Laptop cooling pad
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    Standard
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    LOGITECH G304
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    Browser
    CHROME
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    MICROSOFT DEFENDER
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    Imaging program: Macrium Reflect X Home , and Hasleo Backup Suite
    Google Chrome
    Browser content filter: uBlock Origin and SpywareBlaster
    Heavy programs in use: Photoshop 2025 Beta
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    Windows 11 Home 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung series 7 CHRONOS 15" NT770Z5E-S78
    CPU
    i7 3630QM @ 2.40 GHz
    Motherboard
    Samsung NT770Z5E-S78
    Memory
    8 GB dual DDR3
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD graphics 4000 and ATI AMD Radeon HD 8800
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080 @ 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 500 GB
    PSU
    Samsung
    Case
    standard
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Standard
    Mouse
    Logitech M221
    Internet Speed
    96 down 97 up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
    Other Info
    Imaging program: Macrium Reflect free edition
    Browser content filter: uBlock Origin

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Stigg's Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10900X
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
    Memory
    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    PSU
    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata V2
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
    CPU
    Core i7-8750H
    Motherboard
    Zephyrus M GM501GS
    Memory
    SK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 16 GB DDR4-2666 DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC294
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics B156HAN07.1 [15.6" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
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    N/A
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    N/A
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    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
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    Razer DeathAdder Essential
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    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
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    Mozilla Firefox
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    N/A
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"deprecated in the near future" I Agree !! I haven"t used SR in 3 - 4 years ? What I would like to know, is why it only goes back about a week max.? Even when I "click on show more restore points" Is there a way to make it hold older restore points? Now use Macrium Reflect - So it's not a major concern. cheers
 

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1920 x 1080
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NVMe 670p SSDPEKNU512GZ NVMe I NTEL 512GB
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cheap
Mouse
Logitech wireless mouse
Internet Speed
16 Mps download
Browser
Google Chrome
Antivirus
Security: Microsoft Defender & Malwarebytes Premium (with browser guard)
Other Info
Dell model: Inspiron 15 3511
One of the first things I disable via group policy.

Screenshot 2026-01-12 142833.webp
 

My Computer My Computer

OS
Windows 11 Pro
remover said:
What I would like to know, is why it only goes back about a week max.? Even when I "click on show more restore points" Is there a way to make it hold older restore points?
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Depends how much space you allocate for shadow copies
 

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  • OS
    Win7,Win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-9700
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x16gb 3600mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7,win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200
    PSU
    xfx pro 450

My Computer My Computer

OS
Win 10 Pro 19045.6937 Win 11 25H2 VM
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell Precicion 15 Workstation
CPU
Xeon W-10885M
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
64GB ECC DDR4 128GB max
Graphics Card(s)
Intel 1080p + Quadro RTX 5000 Max-Q 16GB 4K
Sound Card
onboard Realtec
Monitor(s) Displays
NA
Screen Resolution
1080p to 4k
Hard Drives
1 TB Samsung 9100 M2 SSD main
2 TB Samsung 9100 M2 SSD storage
500 GB Corsair T500 storage M2 SSD (6 TB max)
PSU
NA
Case
NA
Cooling
NA
Keyboard
backlit
Mouse
Logitec M720 Bluetooth Free scroll
Internet Speed
slow
Browser
Pale Moon 33.9.x.x - x64 AVX2 build
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Stigg said:
When is the last time you used System Restore?
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Steve C said:
I stopped using SR a while ago on all PCs and rely on Reflect for backups
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There was a time in Windows 10 with version 1803 when system restore would routinely fail. Remember this one? System Restore Failure AppxStaging 0x80070005 - Windows 10 Help Forums. I have relied on Macrium Reflect since then.

However, there have been a couple of times when it was more appropriate to try system restore than using a Macrium image - some things that weren't in the most recent image that needed to be kept.

It seems to work reliably these days. However it is so very slow! Restoring a Macrium image is far faster.
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23-R9VY
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD (from April 2026: 250GB EVO 850)
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2, and 25H2 on 30th September 2025 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 25H2.

    UPDATE - 11 April 2026: due to mechanical deterioration this PC has been retired from active duty. The OS with all software and files has been migrated to my System Seven below to carry on as my general purpose 'main machine'.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 1TB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.

    My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Upgraded to 25H2 by Enablement Package. Also running Insider Dev, and Canary builds and Windows 10 as native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 1TB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine. Updated to 25H2 on 30th September 2025.

    My SYSTEM SEVEN is a Lenovo Thinkpad T580, Intel Core i7-8650U, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD + 2nd 512GB NVMe SSD, a supported device for Windows 11. This is my current general purpose 'main machine'. The installed Windows 11 Home from my System One has been migrated to this machine.
Before Windows had System Restore, GoBack was quite popular. It even came preinstalled on some computers. It changed company names over the years.

GoBack - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Stigg's Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10900X
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
    Memory
    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    PSU
    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata V2
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
    CPU
    Core i7-8750H
    Motherboard
    Zephyrus M GM501GS
    Memory
    SK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 16 GB DDR4-2666 DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC294
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics B156HAN07.1 [15.6" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
    PSU
    N/A
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    N/A
    Keyboard
    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
Bree said:
However, there have been a couple of times when it was more appropriate to try system restore than using a Macrium image - some things that weren't in the most recent image that needed to be kept.
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I have to give Cudos on that statement.
 

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OS
Win 10 Pro 19045.6937 Win 11 25H2 VM
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell Precicion 15 Workstation
CPU
Xeon W-10885M
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
64GB ECC DDR4 128GB max
Graphics Card(s)
Intel 1080p + Quadro RTX 5000 Max-Q 16GB 4K
Sound Card
onboard Realtec
Monitor(s) Displays
NA
Screen Resolution
1080p to 4k
Hard Drives
1 TB Samsung 9100 M2 SSD main
2 TB Samsung 9100 M2 SSD storage
500 GB Corsair T500 storage M2 SSD (6 TB max)
PSU
NA
Case
NA
Cooling
NA
Keyboard
backlit
Mouse
Logitec M720 Bluetooth Free scroll
Internet Speed
slow
Browser
Pale Moon 33.9.x.x - x64 AVX2 build
Antivirus
Windows Defender
remover said:
Even when I "click on show more restore points" Is there a way to make it hold older restore points?
Click to expand...
Someone probably got a pay rise for coming up with that stupid "Show more restore points" idea. 😄 I remember a time before that was there.

System Restore - Show More Restore Points.webp
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Stigg's Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10900X
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
    Memory
    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    PSU
    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata V2
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
    CPU
    Core i7-8750H
    Motherboard
    Zephyrus M GM501GS
    Memory
    SK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 16 GB DDR4-2666 DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC294
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics B156HAN07.1 [15.6" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
    PSU
    N/A
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    N/A
    Keyboard
    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
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