Thoughts on NTLite...


Taliseian

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Greetings all,

I've been looking at NTLite for a while now as a way to build a completely custom Windows ISO that can install all the software I need along with the OS at one time -- basically a single use solution. I have a large number of software that I use on a nearly daily basis on my system from file compression, video editing, MS Office, streaming apps and so on. On top of that, I do a weekly backup of my Documents folder and other files that I would like to put back where they belong -- mainly app settings (especially for OBS) but it includes other saved files. The last time that I did a complete system re-installation it took many hours over several days.

Has anyone used it to accomplish something like this before? Was it easy to use, to build the ISO, and to test it?

Thanks in advance.....
 
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26100.4061

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (26100.4202)
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    PC/Desktop
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    Pre-built
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    AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI Pro B650-VC WiFi
    Memory
    32gb Team Group (T-Force) DDR5-6000
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    Zotac nVidia GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER - 12gb
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    Sound BlasterX G6
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    BenQ XL2411P and ViewSonic VX2453
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    WD Blue SN5000 - 500gb NVME
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    Mountain Everest
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    Logitech G502 Hero
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    T-Mobile Home Internet
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    Firefox
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    QNAP TS-469 Pro NAS, TP-Link W7200 (2 unit mesh network)
I don't use NTLite, mainly because I've done OS deployments for so long, I kinda know what I'm doing, usually. Except that one time I didn't. But I have used NTLite just to check it out, and I can say it's quite nice. I wouldn't hesitate to use it for a custom OS deployment.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 [rev. 4652]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC12WSHi7
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
    Motherboard
    NUC12WSBi7
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    built-in Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
I have used NTLite and a bit of a learning curve but it does allow you to tune your install pretty well.
I did find though that in the end it was just easier to user Windows X-Lite and the Chris Titus tweak tool to remove the remaining junk and then take an image with Macrium.
 

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    Win 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    N/A
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    AMD Ryzen 5 5600x
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    ASUS Crosshair Viii Hero Wi Fi
    Memory
    32 Gb DDR4 3600MHz GSkill
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia Geforce 950
    Sound Card
    USB Out NAD M51 DAC with Adams A8 powered speakers
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Black SSD SN770 1TB
    Samsung EVO SSD 970 1TB
    PSU
    Fractal Design 1000W
    Case
    CoolerMaster ATCS 840
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12S Chromax
    Keyboard
    Razer Huntsman V2
    Mouse
    Razer Viper Ultimate
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    Starlink 94Mbps down 20Mbps up
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    ESET
Was it easy to use, to build the ISO, and to test it?
It is actually too easy to remove anything you want, but it will not tell you all dependencies, because nobody knows. MS changes them with each update. A game, a driver or an app might stop working, because of something you have removed and it is not easy to find out, why. I used to reinstall Windows twice a week to keep NTlite version working. Do not get me wrong, NTLite is great, once you polish it, you will get a lean and mean Windows, but it will cost you, the time. I prefer to disable rather than to remove, it is reversible
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home Insider Canary
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 8600G (07/24)
    Motherboard
    ASROCK B650M-HDV/M.2 3.25 (07/24)
    Memory
    2x32GB Kingston FURY DDR5 5600 MHz CL36 @5200 CL40 (07/24)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASROCK Radeon RX 6600 Challenger D 8G @48FPS (08/24)
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5 Plus (05/24)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Philips 24M1N3200ZS/00 (05/24)
    Screen Resolution
    1920×1080@165Hz via DP1.4
    Hard Drives
    Kingston KC3000 NVMe 2TB (05/24)
    ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 512GB (07/19)
    PSU
    Seasonic Core GM 550 Gold (04/24)
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Mini with 3x Noctua NF-P14s/12@555rpm (04/24)
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12S with Noctua NF-P12 (04/24)
    Keyboard
    HP Pavilion Wired Keyboard 300 (07/24) + Rabalux 76017 Parker (01/24)
    Mouse
    Logitech M330 Silent Plus (04/23)
    Internet Speed
    500/100 Mbps via RouterOS (05/21) & TCP Optimizer
    Browser
    Edge & Brave for YouTube & LibreWolf for FB
    Antivirus
    NextDNS blocking 95% TLDs
    Other Info
    Backup: Hasleo Backup Suite (PreOS)
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170 (09/10)
    Phone: Samsung Galaxy Xcover 7 (02/24)
    Chair: Huzaro Force 4.4 Grey Mesh (05/24)
    Notifier: Xiaomi Mi Band 9 Milanese (10/24)
    2nd Monitor: AOC G2460VQ6 @75Hz (02/19)
Most non-NTLite users get distracted by the "debloating" or Windows removal features. But you're not required to do any of that, and the free edition can do many tasks:

- Delete unwanted editions from a multi-edition ISO downloaded from MS, or created by MCT.
- Apply Windows Update files (in free edition, you will have to download them yourself from the Monthly Update's catalog links).
- Add app installers and scripts for Post-Setup. You will need to research the unattended (or "silent") flags for a hands-free install.
- Enable Unattended mode to create a Local Account (which bypasses the need for a MS Account), and define other common settings.
- Allow Language Packs to be added to an image.

There is some investment you have to make in learning NTLite, but once you figure it out the program is fairly intuitive.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7
I remember using the similar application nLite back in Windows XP in order to integrate SP3 in older versions and inject drivers. When Windows Vista came out, almost everybody wanted to downgrade to Window XP. Using the regular CD-ROM in Vista laptops, it wouldn't see the hard disk because it didn't have built-in drivers for the SATA storage controller. Using a USB floppy disk drive didn't work because somewhere in the process it lost access to it due to missing USB drivers. The only way was to use nLite to inject the SATA storage controller drivers in the regular ISO and burn a new disc. As far as I know you could include some applications, but these were installed with the default settings. There was no obvious way to change them. I don't know about the newer NTLite, never used that.
 
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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5472), 24H2 (4652)
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.4652)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
I remember using the similar application nLite back in Windows XP in order to integrate SP3 in older versions and inject drivers. When Windows Vista came out, almost everybody wanted to downgrade to Window XP. Using the regular CD-ROM in Vista laptops, it wouldn't see the hard disk because it didn't have built-in drivers for the SATA storage controller. Using a USB floppy disk drive didn't work because somewhere in the process it lost access to it due to missing USB drivers. The only way was to use nLite to inject the SATA storage controller drivers in the regular ISO and burn a new disc. As far as I know you could include some applications, but these were installed with the default settings. There was no obvious way to change them. I don't know about the newer NTLite, never used that.

i used 9x lite in the Windows 9x days then used NTLite for Windows 10 and 11. both of which i have found useful.
but i used them mainly to remove programs and services and change bootloaders.
as an example using the Windows 10 22H2 boot loader on a Windows 24H2 ISO.

best of luck, Steve ..
 

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  • OS
    Win 11 24H2 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 24" AiO
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Sound Card
    RealTek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" HP AiO
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD Blue SN580 M2 SSD Partitioned.
    2x 1TB USB HDD External Backup/Storage.
    PSU
    90W external power brick
    Case
    24" All in One
    Cooling
    Default Air Cooling
    Keyboard
    HP WiFi UK extended
    Mouse
    HP WiFi 3 Button
    Internet Speed
    1GB full fibre
    Browser
    Vivaldi & Thunderbird
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
  • Operating System
    Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 13" Latitude 2017
    CPU
    i5 7200u
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel
    Sound Card
    Intel
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13" Dell Laptop
    Hard Drives
    250GB Crucial 2.5" SSD
    Mouse
    Generic WiFi 3 button
    Internet Speed
    WiFi only
    Browser
    Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    ClamAV TK
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
For a home computer, I find it easier to do this with a script after installing Windows.

If it is necessary to integrate some drivers or updates into the Windows image


and autounattend.xml
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Microsoft Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI MS-7D98
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-13490F
    Motherboard
    MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI
    Memory
    2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G560081
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD)
    Sound Card
    Bluetooth Аудио
    Monitor(s) Displays
    INNOCN 15K1F
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD_BLACK SN770 250GB
    KINGSTON SNV2S1000G (ELFK0S.6)
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W
    Case
    CG560 - DeepCool
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS / 2 x 140Mm Fan - rear and top; 3 x 120Mm - front
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB TKL
    Mouse
    Corsair KATAR PRO XT
    Internet Speed
    100 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender Antivirus
    Other Info
    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66553205
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