Tiny11


When using Rufus to create the bootable .iso, should I be using Fat32(Default) or NTFS? I assumed NTFS but when it was done creating the .iso it said in order to boot properly I'd need to disable Secure Boot. Using Rufus 3.16 that is included in the Optimum 11 .zip. If anyone could clarify, much appreciated, thanks in advance.
The default in new versions of Rufus is GPT (FAT32) to create an UEFI mode USB flash drive for installing Windows 11 on modern computers with UEFI firmware. If you want to create an MBR (NTFS) Legacy BIOS USB flash drive to install Windows 11 on older systems, you have to select it before proceeding.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (9168)Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz4GBMobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (9168)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    802.11g wireless 54 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.9168)Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generat...2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB...
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.9168)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Microsoft Compact Optical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    802.11ac 5GHz wireless 260Mpbs
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
We need to start a X-Lite forum somewhere just for these types of questions. This started out as Tiny 11. Now it has expanded to this.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 11 Insider Release Preview and Beta chann...i5 Core [email protected] (Unsupported for Win 11)12GBGeneric PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD...
OS
Win 11 Insider Release Preview and Beta channels.
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP ENVY Bought: March 2017
CPU
i5 Core [email protected] (Unsupported for Win 11)
Motherboard
HP 81AD (U3E1)
Memory
12GB
Graphics Card(s)
Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD Graphics 620 (HP)
Sound Card
Conexant ISST audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor
Screen Resolution
1536x864 pixels
Hard Drives
HGST HTS721010A9E630
PSU
Well...PSU you too!! What's this mean?
Case
HP ENVY SILVER
Cooling
A fan.
Keyboard
USA
Mouse
Logitec Anywhere 2
Internet Speed
Good enough for me! Fast!
Browser
Edge/Waterfox
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Other Info
No 'mo.
Can anyone compare and contrast Tiny and X-Lite? I asked ChatGPT!

**Tiny11** and **X-Lite 11** are both custom, lightweight versions of Windows 11, designed to run on lower-end hardware or to offer streamlined performance by removing bloatware and unnecessary features. While both aim to provide a more efficient and faster experience than the standard Windows 11, they differ in their approach, features, and use cases. Here’s a detailed comparison:

### 1. **Purpose and Philosophy**
- **Tiny11:**
- Developed by NTDev, Tiny11 is designed to be a minimalistic version of Windows 11 that can run on older or less powerful hardware. It strips down Windows 11 to its core essentials, reducing the system’s resource demands.
- The main goal is to maintain the core Windows experience while removing unnecessary components like bloatware, pre-installed apps, and some background services.

- **X-Lite 11:**
- X-Lite 11 is a more aggressively optimized version of Windows 11 that goes beyond just removing bloatware. It offers multiple builds, each tailored for different levels of functionality—from bare-bones systems to versions with more features retained.
- X-Lite 11 is highly customizable, allowing users to choose between different levels of performance and functionality depending on their needs.

### 2. **Features and Components**
- **Tiny11:**
- Includes most essential Windows features like the Microsoft Store, Windows Defender, and basic apps.
- Strips away unnecessary apps and features, but aims to keep the experience as close to standard Windows 11 as possible.
- Typically retains support for Windows updates and activation, making it more suitable for users who want a lightweight OS without sacrificing compatibility.

- **X-Lite 11:**
- Offers multiple builds with varying levels of component removal. Some builds might remove features like the Microsoft Store, Edge, Cortana, or even Windows Defender, depending on the version.
- Includes options for extreme performance by stripping down to the essentials, making it ideal for gaming, virtual machines, or users who want maximum performance.
- X-Lite 11’s builds may be more experimental, with certain versions not supporting standard updates or activation without additional workarounds.

### 3. **System Requirements and Performance**
- **Tiny11:**
- Aimed at systems with lower specs, Tiny11 can run on as little as 8 GB of storage and 2 GB of RAM, making it suitable for older machines or devices with limited resources.
- Performance is improved primarily by reducing the system’s overhead, but the user experience remains close to that of a full Windows 11 installation.

- **X-Lite 11:**
- Offers versions that can run on extremely low-end hardware, sometimes even lower than Tiny11, due to more aggressive stripping of features.
- Performance gains are more significant, especially in versions designed for gaming or specialized tasks, but this comes at the cost of reduced features and potential compatibility issues.

### 4. **Compatibility and Usability**
- **Tiny11:**
- Prioritizes maintaining compatibility with most software, drivers, and peripherals. It’s designed to be a “drop-in” replacement for Windows 11 with minimal sacrifices in functionality.
- Suitable for general users, schools, or businesses needing a lightweight yet functional OS that closely mirrors standard Windows 11.

- **X-Lite 11:**
- Compatibility can vary depending on the version. Some builds are highly specialized, which might lead to issues with certain applications, updates, or drivers.
- More suitable for advanced users, tech enthusiasts, or those with specific needs, like gaming or running in virtual machines, who are comfortable with potential trade-offs in usability.

### 5. **Updates and Security**
- **Tiny11:**
- Designed to still work with Windows Update and maintain security features like Windows Defender. This makes it a safer option for everyday use.
- Provides a balance between a lightweight system and ongoing security and update support.

- **X-Lite 11:**
- Depending on the build, updates and security features might be disabled or removed entirely. Some versions may require manual updates or third-party security solutions.
- Greater customization comes with higher risk, making it less suitable for users who need consistent updates and security patches.

### 6. **Customization and Flexibility**
- **Tiny11:**
- Less customizable out of the box compared to X-Lite, but it retains more of the standard Windows 11 experience. It’s meant for users who want simplicity and reliability.

- **X-Lite 11:**
- Highly customizable, with different builds catering to different needs. Users can select from ultra-light versions with minimal components to slightly more robust versions depending on their performance or feature needs.
- Provides more control over the system at the cost of complexity and potential stability issues.

### Summary:
- **Tiny11** is a streamlined, lightweight version of Windows 11 aimed at providing a near-standard experience with reduced system requirements. It’s ideal for users who want a functional and familiar Windows experience on older or less powerful hardware.

- **X-Lite 11** offers more aggressive optimization with varying levels of customization and component stripping. It’s better suited for advanced users who need maximum performance, especially in specialized scenarios like gaming or running virtual machines, and are willing to trade off features and compatibility for speed.

Choosing between the two depends on whether you prioritize a stable, simplified experience (Tiny11) or maximum customization and performance (X-Lite 11).
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics16GB
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic LX15PRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics
    Motherboard
    BIOS CT_BI_AMI_LX15PRO_AB8139_A-004
    Memory
    16GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot SecureAnywhere Complete beta
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506Atom N450 1.66GHz2GB
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
  • Acer Swift SF114-34 laptop
    OS Windows 11 Pro 26200.8894
    CPU Pentium Silver N6000
    RAM 4GB
    BIOS v1.17
    SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB (an upgrade)
Both have limited features and less compatibility with Tiny11 sounding a little better (regarding compatibility) to X-Lite 11. I value compatibility most, so I would rather avoid both and try to make the standard Windows 11 version lighter myself. I know it won't be as light as these tools, but it will be light enough to run Windows 11 reasonably fast on a Core 2 Duo or higher with 2GB RAM and at least 25-30GB disk space (to accommodate some applications as well).
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (9168)Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz4GBMobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (9168)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    802.11g wireless 54 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.9168)Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generat...2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB...
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.9168)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Microsoft Compact Optical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    802.11ac 5GHz wireless 260Mpbs
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Both have limited features and less compatibility with Tiny11 sounding a little better (regarding compatibility) to X-Lite 11. I value compatibility most, so I would rather avoid both and try to make the standard Windows 11 version lighter myself. I know it won't be as light as these tools, but it will be light enough to run Windows 11 reasonably fast on a Core 2 Duo or higher with 2GB RAM and at least 25-30GB disk space (to accommodate some applications as well).
Have you tried them?
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics16GB
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic LX15PRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics
    Motherboard
    BIOS CT_BI_AMI_LX15PRO_AB8139_A-004
    Memory
    16GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot SecureAnywhere Complete beta
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506Atom N450 1.66GHz2GB
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
  • Acer Swift SF114-34 laptop
    OS Windows 11 Pro 26200.8894
    CPU Pentium Silver N6000
    RAM 4GB
    BIOS v1.17
    SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB (an upgrade)
Have you tried them?
No, I don't have too much free time to experiment with these. Installing them in a virtual machine is pointless because it will be as fast as the host. They must be tested on a really old computer to make safe conclusions.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (9168)Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz4GBMobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (9168)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    802.11g wireless 54 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.9168)Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generat...2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB...
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.9168)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Microsoft Compact Optical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    802.11ac 5GHz wireless 260Mpbs
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Installing them in a virtual machine is pointless because it will be as fast as the host. They must be tested on a really old computer to make safe conclusions.

You could turn down the performance of the VM, to simulate a slower PC. I test applications that I write this way, to see how they perform with slower CPUs, network, whatever is appropriate for what I’m testing.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Enterprise 25H2
OS
Windows 11 Enterprise 25H2
I am not that advanced with virtual machines. I use VMWare Workstation. How do you slow down that virtual machine?
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (9168)Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz4GBMobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (9168)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    802.11g wireless 54 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.9168)Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generat...2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB...
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.9168)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Microsoft Compact Optical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    802.11ac 5GHz wireless 260Mpbs
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
I am not that advanced with virtual machines. I use VMWare Workstation. How do you slow down that virtual machine?
You can do things like turn down the amount of RAM you give the VM, or decrease the number of CPUs or cores per CPU.

For network related testing, you can select the network adapter and click the Advanced button. There, you can slow down the in/out bandwidth, increase latency, introduce some amount of packet loss, etc.

I know Hyper-V has similar capabilities. Not sure about Virtual Box; I haven't use it in ages.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Enterprise 25H2
OS
Windows 11 Enterprise 25H2
I think I am going to try X-Lite, I looks like something that can breathe new life into my old slowwww Dell Laptop
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro 25H2 v26200.7171Intel I9-12900k Adler LakeCorsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5Realtek
OS
Windows 11 Pro 25H2 v26200.7171
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
self built
CPU
Intel I9-12900k Adler Lake
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z790 Gaming Plus AX
Memory
Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5
Graphics Card(s)
Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung Curved 23"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
9 Drives total: Two 1TB M.2 SSD's, Three internal Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD's , 4 Western Digital External removable drives , 3 @ 1TB each and 1 8TB
Case
Antec Flux Pro
Cooling
ID Cooling FX 240 Pro
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Bitdefender
I think I am going to try X-Lite, I looks like something that can breathe new life into my old slowwww Dell Laptop
X-Lite keeps the updates off when installed by default. If I don't turn them on (they say don't) , how do I update my drivers and other system components?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 11 Insider Release Preview and Beta chann...i5 Core [email protected] (Unsupported for Win 11)12GBGeneric PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD...
OS
Win 11 Insider Release Preview and Beta channels.
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP ENVY Bought: March 2017
CPU
i5 Core [email protected] (Unsupported for Win 11)
Motherboard
HP 81AD (U3E1)
Memory
12GB
Graphics Card(s)
Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD Graphics 620 (HP)
Sound Card
Conexant ISST audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor
Screen Resolution
1536x864 pixels
Hard Drives
HGST HTS721010A9E630
PSU
Well...PSU you too!! What's this mean?
Case
HP ENVY SILVER
Cooling
A fan.
Keyboard
USA
Mouse
Logitec Anywhere 2
Internet Speed
Good enough for me! Fast!
Browser
Edge/Waterfox
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Other Info
No 'mo.
X-Lite keeps the updates off when installed by default. If I don't turn them on (they say don't) , how do I update my drivers and other system components?
There's a link on their site for Update Packs for the different builds. I usually do drivers by myself. Not sure about system components tho.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3DG.Skill 32GB 6000MHzRTX 4080
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard
ASUS B650E-F Gaming WiFi
Memory
G.Skill 32GB 6000MHz
Graphics Card(s)
RTX 4080
PSU
Super Flower 1000w
Case
Fractal North
Cooling
Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK
What are you talking about? If the system is old enough to benefit from a light Windows 11 version, there are no driver updates. You just install latest drivers once and you have peace of mind regarding drivers.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (9168)Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz4GBMobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (9168)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    802.11g wireless 54 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.9168)Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generat...2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB...
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.9168)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Microsoft Compact Optical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    802.11ac 5GHz wireless 260Mpbs
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
What are you talking about? If the system is old enough to benefit from a light Windows 11 version, there are no driver updates. You just install latest drivers once and you have peace of mind regarding drivers.
I have a recent laptop with very modest specs. X-Lite has made a massive performance improvement and of course you can update drivers and use Windows Update or not - your choice. Why are you so critical of a system you have never used? Please unwatch this thread.
 
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My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics16GB
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic LX15PRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics
    Motherboard
    BIOS CT_BI_AMI_LX15PRO_AB8139_A-004
    Memory
    16GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot SecureAnywhere Complete beta
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506Atom N450 1.66GHz2GB
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
  • Acer Swift SF114-34 laptop
    OS Windows 11 Pro 26200.8894
    CPU Pentium Silver N6000
    RAM 4GB
    BIOS v1.17
    SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB (an upgrade)
I have a recent laptop with very modest specs. X-Lite has made a massive performance improvement and of course you can update drivers and use Windows Update or not - your choice. Why are you so critical of a system you have never used? Please unwatch this thread.
I have my updates turned on tp get all the updates for drivers and all other components and seems to running just as fast. What I don't do is use 3rd party programs like Driver Booster or SDI and crap like that. Just MS Updates.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 11 Insider Release Preview and Beta chann...i5 Core [email protected] (Unsupported for Win 11)12GBGeneric PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD...
OS
Win 11 Insider Release Preview and Beta channels.
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP ENVY Bought: March 2017
CPU
i5 Core [email protected] (Unsupported for Win 11)
Motherboard
HP 81AD (U3E1)
Memory
12GB
Graphics Card(s)
Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD Graphics 620 (HP)
Sound Card
Conexant ISST audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor
Screen Resolution
1536x864 pixels
Hard Drives
HGST HTS721010A9E630
PSU
Well...PSU you too!! What's this mean?
Case
HP ENVY SILVER
Cooling
A fan.
Keyboard
USA
Mouse
Logitec Anywhere 2
Internet Speed
Good enough for me! Fast!
Browser
Edge/Waterfox
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Other Info
No 'mo.
I have my updates turned on tp get all the updates for drivers and all other components and seems to running just as fast. What I don't do is use 3rd party programs like Driver Booster or SDI and crap like that. Just MS Updates.
Have you tried any of the other cutdown versions of W10 or W11? Please give us your thoughts.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics16GB
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic LX15PRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics
    Motherboard
    BIOS CT_BI_AMI_LX15PRO_AB8139_A-004
    Memory
    16GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot SecureAnywhere Complete beta
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506Atom N450 1.66GHz2GB
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
  • Acer Swift SF114-34 laptop
    OS Windows 11 Pro 26200.8894
    CPU Pentium Silver N6000
    RAM 4GB
    BIOS v1.17
    SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB (an upgrade)
Have you tried any of the other cutdown versions of W10 or W11? Please give us your thoughts.
No. Just Optimum 11. And I found about it thanks to you when you mentioned it in this post about 3 days ago. I really appreciate it and running on it now. Since I enabled updates, I am now on 26100.1560 and it's really fast. Might make it my default OS but will wait. Still testing.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 11 Insider Release Preview and Beta chann...i5 Core [email protected] (Unsupported for Win 11)12GBGeneric PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD...
OS
Win 11 Insider Release Preview and Beta channels.
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP ENVY Bought: March 2017
CPU
i5 Core [email protected] (Unsupported for Win 11)
Motherboard
HP 81AD (U3E1)
Memory
12GB
Graphics Card(s)
Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD Graphics 620 (HP)
Sound Card
Conexant ISST audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor
Screen Resolution
1536x864 pixels
Hard Drives
HGST HTS721010A9E630
PSU
Well...PSU you too!! What's this mean?
Case
HP ENVY SILVER
Cooling
A fan.
Keyboard
USA
Mouse
Logitec Anywhere 2
Internet Speed
Good enough for me! Fast!
Browser
Edge/Waterfox
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Other Info
No 'mo.
I have a recent laptop with very modest specs. X-Lite has made a massive performance improvement and of course you can update drivers and use Windows Update or not - your choice. Why are you so critical of a system you have never used? Please unwatch this thread.
I just try to make clear to novices that what they gain in speed they lose in functionality or compatibility. Besides any Intel Core-i3 system or higher will have little benefit from a light Windows 11 version. The difference would not be that large as you claim for the average user. It only makes sense for a very old and very slow system. Or for gaming to achieve maximum performance but lose features.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (9168)Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz4GBMobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (5699), 25H2 (9168)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    802.11g wireless 54 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.9168)Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generat...2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB...
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v25H2 (build 26200.9168)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 WINDFORCE OC V2 6GB (GV-N3050WF2OCV2-6GD)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Microsoft Compact Optical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    802.11ac 5GHz wireless 260Mpbs
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Optimum's latest is 26100.1457. Are you on Windows 11 Pro 24H2?
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics16GB
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic LX15PRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics
    Motherboard
    BIOS CT_BI_AMI_LX15PRO_AB8139_A-004
    Memory
    16GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot SecureAnywhere Complete beta
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506Atom N450 1.66GHz2GB
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
  • Acer Swift SF114-34 laptop
    OS Windows 11 Pro 26200.8894
    CPU Pentium Silver N6000
    RAM 4GB
    BIOS v1.17
    SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB (an upgrade)
I just try to make clear to novices that what they gain in speed they lose in functionality or compatibility. Besides any Intel Core-i3 system or higher will have little benefit from a light Windows 11 version. The difference would not be that large as you claim for the average user. It only makes sense for a very old and very slow system. Or for gaming to achieve maximum performance but lose features.
That may be. I'm running both builds of 26100.1560 (one normal and one Optimum X-Lite) dual boot on my HP i7 Core laptop (CPU non-compatible) and I notice that X-Lite is faster. The other is a bit slower.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 11 Insider Release Preview and Beta chann...i5 Core [email protected] (Unsupported for Win 11)12GBGeneric PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD...
OS
Win 11 Insider Release Preview and Beta channels.
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP ENVY Bought: March 2017
CPU
i5 Core [email protected] (Unsupported for Win 11)
Motherboard
HP 81AD (U3E1)
Memory
12GB
Graphics Card(s)
Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD Graphics 620 (HP)
Sound Card
Conexant ISST audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor
Screen Resolution
1536x864 pixels
Hard Drives
HGST HTS721010A9E630
PSU
Well...PSU you too!! What's this mean?
Case
HP ENVY SILVER
Cooling
A fan.
Keyboard
USA
Mouse
Logitec Anywhere 2
Internet Speed
Good enough for me! Fast!
Browser
Edge/Waterfox
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Other Info
No 'mo.

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