Solved TPM/PTT confusion

Zardoc said:

So the cash grab isn't with the OS, it's saying to it's partners, there you go, now they all have to get modernized a bit faster. Asus and the other boys are probably sending thank you cards to MS.

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All partners are already modernized to Microsoft's specs.

1) The problem with your logic is TPM (1.2) has been around since 2011 (Windows 8 came out in 2012). Today's standard is 2.0 since 2013 and includes firmware TPM (which is what Windows 11 will use) so there was NO need to purchase a separate TPM chip...

Intel’s PTT was Introduced in 2013 on select fourth-generation Intel Core processors and chipsets, including Intel Haswell ULT multichip packages, as well as on Atom-based, system-on-a-chip solutions like Bay Trail.

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Source: Intel Platform Trust Technology (PTT): TPM For The Masses

3) Considering firmware TPM has been on boards since 2013 (8 years now), and add that Microsoft doesn't own the tech, I'm at a loss as to how you see this as Microsoft making a land grab here??? Are they not allowed to use a tech that's been around for ages?

I think many are getting their feathers ruffled over something they don't fully understand or haven't properly looked into - example buying something that's not needed because it's already included on your board via a BIOS setting - PTT (firmware TPM).

And yes, I looked up an Asus Prime Z270-A, and it does have firmware TPM. All you need to do is enable it (if not enabled)....



I can understand people's concern about whether their PC will meet Windows 11's requirements or not, but please do your homework before getting bent out of shape.

Here's the deal, if your board is older than (to be safe) 2015 you pretty much have TPM and don't need to run out and purchase a separate module. And the fact that a motherboard has an empty TPM socket doesn't mean it doesn't support firmware TPM, it simply means it also supports a more secure chip (which most will never need). Thus PTT vs TPM. I'd also highly suggest you watch the video.

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At the end of the day many may find their older CPU more an issue than TPM support.

Good luck.

Whose logic? Are you talking to me @Dru2 ?

geneo said:

Yes, it will be free by fiat since the Microsoft requirement of 8th gen and older CPU (similar for AMD?) have a TPM built into the chipset

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Yes, both my AMD and my Intel desktops qualify. :)

geneo said:

Whose logic? Are you talking to me @Dru2 ?

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The post is addressed to @Zardoc. Sorry I thought I quoted his post in my reply.