Trying to figure out the cause of the freeze


flick said:
as the device was stored inside a laptop bag at the time
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Newer laptops today do not "sleep" (state S3)as we have known it to be in the past. They go into a state called "modern standby". (S0)
There have been reports that these devices have overheated when carried in a case. If I owned one of these modern standby devices I would never carry them in a case unless they were turned off. At the very least I would use hibernate instead of modern standby.

Hibernate and Modern Standby are both low-power modes for laptops and tablets, but they differ in how they handle power consumption and responsiveness. Hibernate saves the system state to the hard drive, effectively powering down the device and using minimal power, while Modern Standby keeps the device in a low-power sleep state, allowing for quick resume and connectivity.
 

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I appreciate the insight. As you have noted that "Newer laptops today do not "sleep" (state S3) If I recall correctly from a previous case I had opened, I was advised to disable Modern Standby (S0) as part of the troubleshooting process.I’ve confirmed that this setting is still disabled on my system. Given that, how does this factor in?

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System One

  • OS
    11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Thinkpad X1C
    CPU
    155H
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics; NPU, Integrated
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD
    Antivirus
    WD
Sorry, but according to that powercfg report, your device IS using modern standby. You give no specifics in your forum profile about your device.

Whether modern standby can be disabled and S3 be enabled is controlled specifically by the OEM bios. Not all OEM's allow the switch. From the ones I've dealt with that allowed it, they were all Dell, but even some Dells do not allow it.
While far from a perfect option, Hibernate is an available option which may or may not work out for you.

The only way to know if you can switch to S3 sleep is to first make sure you are running the latest UEFI bios. You get it directly from the support page for your OEM device.

Then use this tutorial. BE SURE TO READ IT IN ITS ENTIRETY. Afterwards run another powercfg report to see if S3 is enabled and S0 is disabled.
www.elevenforum.com

Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to disable Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) to enable S3 support on a Windows 10 and Windows 11 device. In Windows 10 and Windows 11, there are two power models for PCs: S3 and Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle). The S3 power model is an older standard and is...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

As with any other major change, I strongly advice you make a full system image beforehand.

It is what it is..
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.4061
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.4061
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink Mini PC SER5
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800U
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial nvme
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    System 3 is non compliant Dell 9020 i7-4770/24gb ram Win11 PRO 26100.4061
glasskuter said:
Sorry, but according to that powercfg report, your device IS using modern standby. You give no specifics in your forum profile about your device.

Whether modern standby can be disabled and S3 be enabled is controlled specifically by the OEM bios. Not all OEM's allow the switch. From the ones I've dealt with that allowed it, they were all Dell, but even some Dells do not allow it.
While far from a perfect option, Hibernate is an available option which may or may not work out for you.

The only way to know if you can switch to S3 sleep is to first make sure you are running the latest UEFI bios. You get it directly from the support page for your OEM device.

Then use this tutorial. BE SURE TO READ IT IN ITS ENTIRETY. Afterwards run another powercfg report to see if S3 is enabled and S0 is disabled.
www.elevenforum.com

Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to disable Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) to enable S3 support on a Windows 10 and Windows 11 device. In Windows 10 and Windows 11, there are two power models for PCs: S3 and Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle). The S3 power model is an older standard and is...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

As with any other major change, I strongly advice you make a full system image beforehand.

It is what it is..
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My apologies — I’ll update the device specs shortly. Thanks for the detailed instructions. I’ve confirmed that I’m already running the latest UEFI BIOS, which I updated a couple of weeks ago. I’ll go through the tutorial carefully and apply the necessary changes.

Once that’s done, I’ll rerun powercfg /a and powercfg /sleepstudy to verify that S3 is enabled and S0 is disabled. I also experienced another unexpected shutdown yesterday, so I’m hoping this adjustment would help address the issue.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Thinkpad X1C
    CPU
    155H
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics; NPU, Integrated
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD
    Antivirus
    WD
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