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I have windows 10, I have all the specs needed for 11 except that security tpm, is there any chance microsoft will not keep that a requirement
 

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I have windows 10, I have all the specs needed for 11 except that security tpm, is there any chance microsoft will not keep that a requirement

Welcome to ElevenForum :)

There's no way we can predict that. So far... they seem to be sticking with their requirements.
Best practice...

1. Make a full backup of Windows 10
2. Clean install or do In-Place upgrade to Windows 11.
3. If you don't like it or it doesn't function well, you can restore your Windows 10 backup.

If you fill out your computer specs or list them, we can make more customized suggestions.



 

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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

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Have you checked in the BIOS to see if the computer has TPM? It may just need to be turned on.
 
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Good idea of @Winuser. Personally I don't bother upgrading to 11 if the machine doesn't meet the specs because it is ok bypassing the the TPM but who knows what will happen in the future.
 

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    Alienware Area 51m R2
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    10th Gen Core i9 10900K
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    32GB
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I expect that if the computer has a processor new enough to meet the Win 11 requirements, it will also have a firmware TPM. (That's what "Winuser" is referring to in post 3.) It may not be enabled in the BIOS settings.

If you provided more information about the system, it may be possible to help you with that. (Motherboard, or make/model if it's a mass-market PC like Dell or HP.)
 

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A lot of people have upgraded to Win11 on old unsupported machines using this post,
Installing Windows 11 on devices that don't meet minimum system requirements. I just upgraded two of my old outdated machines and both run perfectly. With all the discussion about this issue, I come away believing it is not a big deal to do so. My supposition is that, since the engine is basically Windows 10, and Win 11 is in the main more of a dressing up of the GUI, the new strict requirements are merely an attempt to make the computing environment a bit more secure for the end-user. Not that the new requirements are at all really required to run a PC. I'm getting updates and I "assume" these will continue for the life of the OS.
 

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It's highly likely that Microsoft will maintain and improve upon TPM 2.

The switch to Windows 11 was to make major improvements in Security, Performance and Reliability.

Many end users have upgraded from 10 to 11 knowing that they may not benefit from these improvements.


This tutorial may be useful:






 

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    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
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A lot of people have upgraded to Win11 on old unsupported machines using this post,
Installing Windows 11 on devices that don't meet minimum system requirements. I just upgraded two of my old outdated machines and both run perfectly. With all the discussion about this issue, I come away believing it is not a big deal to do so. My supposition is that, since the engine is basically Windows 10, and Win 11 is in the main more of a dressing up of the GUI, the new strict requirements are merely an attempt to make the computing environment a bit more secure for the end-user. Not that the new requirements are at all really required to run a PC. I'm getting updates and I "assume" these will continue for the life of the OS.
You hope you will get updates for the life of the OS, that remains to be seen
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware Area 51m R2
    CPU
    10th Gen Core i9 10900K
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 2080 Super
    Sound Card
    Nvidia HD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 2TB P981A
    D: Samsung 2TB 970 Evo
    Case
    Dark side of the moon
    Mouse
    Alienware AW610M
    Browser
    Chrome and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Norton
    Other Info
    Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller
    Killer AX1650i Wi-Fi Network Adaptor
    Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier
    Tobii Eye Tracker
  • Operating System
    Dual Boot Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro Dev build
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 3501
    CPU
    11th Gen i-7 2.80 gb
    Memory
    16Gb
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    512Gb SSD
    WD 2GB EXT
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
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