Upgrading from Win 7 Home Premium to Win 11 - TPM dilemma


Pie Man,
I'm running Windwos 11/Pro/64 on several PC's older than yours. On every one, I installed from a 32GB Flash Drive that was created by Rufus 3.22, where I accepted all the options, like this:
View attachment 66955 TPM GONE, ram requirement GONE, MS account requirement GONE. You wind up with a nice clean OS, which installs easily and runs just GREAT!
I would not tell you this, if I had not done it time after time myself.

Download Rufus 3.22 or later, directly from their parent web site. I doesn't have to install into Windows. It's a Stand Alone program.
Thousands of users have already done this, , , It's not Rocket Science.
I've found that things go easier if you'll put the ISO for Windows on your desktop, where you can easily point to it, in Rufus.

Good Luck,
TM :cool:
Hi TM.

I now have Rufus 3.22 which runs just fine. Any idea where I obtain the Win 11 ISO file?

Thanks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer upgraded 2013 with addition of Asus P8Z77-M mobo and new PSU
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 3470 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus P8Z77-M
    Memory
    DDR3 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel - on mobo
    Sound Card
    On mobo
    Monitor(s) Displays
    SAmsung Syncmaster T220
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 500GB 860 EV0 - SSD as C-Drive.
Hi TM.

I now have Rufus 3.22 which runs just fine. Any idea where I obtain the Win 11 ISO file?

Thanks.
Windows Media Creation tool will let you generate the Windows 11 ISO file.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.
Hello All.

I'm in the UK. chassis of my PC is an Acer machine I bought in about 2009.

My current motherboard is an Asus P8Z77-M from 2013 with 16GB DDR3 RAM and Intel Core i5 3470 CPU running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 - bit. I want to upgrade to Windows 11 but apparently need a TPM. There is a 20-1 TPM header on the motherboard already. Bios is AMI V 2203. My C- Drive is a Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD.

Lots of cheap 20-1 TPMs about. mostly on Ebay, but all say they will only work with DDR4 RAM, which isn't much help.

Help and suggestions appreciated.

Thanks.
I hope this is not a repeat.
NO, you do not need a TPM. That's just more MS BS!
I've installed Win-11 on a 16 yr old PC, with a dual core CPU, and just 2GB of ram, and an OLD 80GB HD.


All you need to do is download and run Rufus 3.22 or later, to burn the Windows 11 ISO to a Flash Drive.
When you run Rufus, Fill in all the required blanks in Rufus, and when it gives you the Burn Options menu, select everything. Then your install, from the Flash Drive, should go quick and easy. I've done this at least 20 times now. I know this information is sketchy, so if you need a more detailed explanation, send me a PM. I'll be glad to assist you.

Good Luck,
TM :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-11/Pro/64, Optimum 11 V5, 23H2 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Made w/Gigabyte mobo/DX-10
    CPU
    AMD FX 6350 Six Core
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte, DX-10, GA-78LMT-USB3
    Memory
    Crucial, 16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDEA GeForce 210, 1GB DDR3 Ram.
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Crucial SSD 500GB, SanDisk 126GB SSD, Toshiba 1TB HD
    PSU
    EVGA 500 W.
    Case
    Pac Man, Mid Tower
    Cooling
    AMD/OEM
    Keyboard
    101 key, Backlit/ Mechanical Switches/
    Mouse
    Logitech USB Wireless M310
    Internet Speed
    Hughes Net speed varies with the weather
    Browser
    Firefox 64x
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Super Anti Spyware
    Other Info
    Given to me as DEAD, and irreparable.
    Rebuilt with Gigabyte mobo, AMD cpu, 16GB ram and 500GB Crucial SSD.
In answer to above questions.
You do not need an ISO from Microsoft. There are other sources of Windows ISO's that do not come with all the MS BS attached.
Get an ISO from a trusted source, like Genintopc(dot)com and save it to our desktop.
I have such ISO's from almost every month for the past year.*
* I also have ISO's for Windows XP, 7, 8.1, 10 and 11, all from the same source. They are all CLEAN, and easy to install.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-11/Pro/64, Optimum 11 V5, 23H2 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Made w/Gigabyte mobo/DX-10
    CPU
    AMD FX 6350 Six Core
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte, DX-10, GA-78LMT-USB3
    Memory
    Crucial, 16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDEA GeForce 210, 1GB DDR3 Ram.
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Crucial SSD 500GB, SanDisk 126GB SSD, Toshiba 1TB HD
    PSU
    EVGA 500 W.
    Case
    Pac Man, Mid Tower
    Cooling
    AMD/OEM
    Keyboard
    101 key, Backlit/ Mechanical Switches/
    Mouse
    Logitech USB Wireless M310
    Internet Speed
    Hughes Net speed varies with the weather
    Browser
    Firefox 64x
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Super Anti Spyware
    Other Info
    Given to me as DEAD, and irreparable.
    Rebuilt with Gigabyte mobo, AMD cpu, 16GB ram and 500GB Crucial SSD.
You can also do it with rufus
View attachment 67272
Porthos,
Where did you get that version of Rufus? It's not like any of mine. On mine, there is no option to "Download" . Only to select an ISO that has already been downloaded. Is it because that's a "Portable" version?

PS:
I just downloaded the portable version of Rufus, 4.2.xxxx and I still don't see the option to "Download" . It's just not there!
All this is JFI, because I would never download any ISO from Microsoft. I just don't trust them.

I download all my ISO's, going all the way back to XP, from a trusted and proven source, and I safely put those ISO's away in a safe place, for future use.
My very first version of Windows was 3.11, (got it from a friend, on Floppy Disks) and I didn't get that from MS either. ;-) ;-)

TM :cool:
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-11/Pro/64, Optimum 11 V5, 23H2 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Made w/Gigabyte mobo/DX-10
    CPU
    AMD FX 6350 Six Core
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte, DX-10, GA-78LMT-USB3
    Memory
    Crucial, 16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDEA GeForce 210, 1GB DDR3 Ram.
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Crucial SSD 500GB, SanDisk 126GB SSD, Toshiba 1TB HD
    PSU
    EVGA 500 W.
    Case
    Pac Man, Mid Tower
    Cooling
    AMD/OEM
    Keyboard
    101 key, Backlit/ Mechanical Switches/
    Mouse
    Logitech USB Wireless M310
    Internet Speed
    Hughes Net speed varies with the weather
    Browser
    Firefox 64x
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Super Anti Spyware
    Other Info
    Given to me as DEAD, and irreparable.
    Rebuilt with Gigabyte mobo, AMD cpu, 16GB ram and 500GB Crucial SSD.
My current motherboard is an Asus P8Z77-M from 2013 with 16GB DDR3 RAM and Intel Core i5 3470 CPU running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 - bit. I want to upgrade to Windows 11 but apparently need a TPM. There is a 20-1 TPM header on the motherboard already. Bios is AMI V 2203. My C- Drive is a Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD.
For the record, I am running Windows 11 on a fully supported PC (system one), and Windows 11 Insider on an unsupported PC. With that....

Just FYI, but if this is your ONLY PC, and it's critical to you, and is not supported by Windows 11 Do not chance it!!!

Yes, it can be done, did it. And yes, it'll work, been there. However, as more and more updates get released, you may find that things that used to work may no longer work or malfunction, and especially if you're running Insiders.

I was running Windows 11 Insiders on my unsupported 2017 Lenovo notebook and at first all was well, but as I got more and more insider updates my notebook got slower and slower, and odd issues would arise like freezing apps. Reverted back to Windows 10. Zero issues.

I was running Windows 11 Insiders on my backup PC, and as of Monday, my NAS wouldn't connect where it was working flawlessly last week. Also got a weird issue where I could not open Disk Management - kept getting an error saying the action was blocked by my Admin.

Being I rarely check out what's happening with Insiders, I decided to move on from it and revert back to Windows 10 as I find I need that PC for other things. BTW...as said, I am running Windows 11 Pro on my main desktop, which is fully supported and no issues with my NAS.

I know people are going to report they have no issues, but are the running the same config and programs as you???

Yes, Windows 11 works with unsupported hardware, but for how long, and especially Insiders.

BTW, the ONLY reason the two PC I mentioned are unsupported, are due to CPU (i7-7700K. i7-7600U), NOT TPM. Both are fTPM 2.0.

Just something to be aware of.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3296)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro 22H2 (build 19045.2130)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R9 Fury
    Sound Card
    Onboard (Creative Sound Blaster certified ZxRi)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2415 (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung SSD drives: 1x 512gig 950 NVMe drive (OS drive), 1 x 512gig 850 Pro, 1x 256gig 840 Pro.
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 710
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    This is my backup system.
Most of us run the final release version 22H2 without any issues. An Insider's version may have bugs, it's not the same as running the standard version. These bugs should be fixed before the new features are released on the standard version. It is far less risky compatibility-wise to run the standard version on unsupported computers. First make a full backup, or better a clone of your current system so you can restore it any time. Then upgrade to Windows 11. Don't hesitate, we are all here to help you if anything goes wrong.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.3880)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v23H2 (build 22631.3880)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4

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