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Scannerman · Oct 9, 2026

gunrunnerjohn said:
So Micron doesn't pay taxes anymore? Odd, I wonder how they manage that?

Oh, I'm quite sure welfare recipients pay taxes. Some more than others, in fact. Nothing flies like Corporate Welfare when record profits are at an all time high. Let the chips fall where they may. Or, as George Carlan declared, "It's a great big club and you ain't innit".

gunrunnerjohn · Oct 9, 2026

Scannerman said:
Oh, I'm quite sure welfare recipients pay taxes. Some more than others, in fact. Nothing flies like Corporate Welfare when record profits are at an all time high. Let the chips fall where they may. Or, as George Carlan declared, "It's a great big club and you ain't innit".

Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

gunrunnerjohn · Oct 9, 2026

PhilB said:
What will the owners/shareholders say? Three guesses.

I only need one guess, sell to the highest bidder!

SIW2 · 2026-10-16T18:54:39-0400

XxXxX · 2026-10-17T02:55:01-0400

it would look like the home build market is going to fade out of existence
and be the preserve of the very well off who will be the only ones who can afford it.

the average user is going to have to put up with
LGA1150, Intel series 4 CPU's, DDR3 1600 Ram and whatever GPU they can get a mortgage for
but take heart the A.I data centres are going to be well stacked with the latest and greatest
the question is ..will anybody be able to afford too use them ..

not so happy days for anybody wanting to build their own system
best of luck Steve ..

cheaterslick · 2026-10-17T07:17:12-0400

XxXxX said:
..will anybody be able to afford too use them ..

Given the situation as it is, I think Microsoft is going to have to reevaluate when turning Windows 10 off again since most people aren't going to be able to afford a new machine at this time, and I have yet seen any discounts for people who they (MS) want to upgrade to Windows 11 yet can't because of the cost increases for hardware.

gunrunnerjohn · 2026-10-17T10:38:34-0400

cheaterslick said:
Given the situation as it is, I think Microsoft is going to have to reevaluate when turning Windows 10 off again since most people aren't going to be able to afford a new machine at this time, and I have yet seen any discounts for people who they (MS) want to upgrade to Windows 11 yet can't because of the cost increases for hardware.

This might explain why Microsoft hasn't turned off the ability to use programs like Rufus to install Windows 11 on incompatible hardware. They could quite easily stop that practice if they wanted to.

cheaterslick · 2026-10-17T11:40:27-0400

gunrunnerjohn said:
This might explain why Microsoft hasn't turned off the ability to use programs like Rufus to install Windows 11 on incompatible hardware. They could quite easily stop that practice if they wanted to.

And they can either:

- Do away with the hardware requirement Windows 11 now requires

or

- Extend Windows 10 for the next few years

Neither of which Microsoft wants to do, but something's gonna have to give way...

TraderGary · 2026-10-17T12:40:21-0400

cheaterslick said:
And they can either:

- Do away with the hardware requirement Windows 11 now requires

or

- Extend Windows 10 for the next few years

Neither of which Microsoft wants to do, but something's gonna have to give way...

or Windows 10 will just continue to work like it always has. All Microsoft is doing is not updating it anymore. They aren't stopping Windows 10 from working. Heck there are still many folks that still use Windows 7 for Pete's sake.

Bree · 2026-10-17T13:14:26-0400

cheaterslick said:
or

- Extend Windows 10 for the next few years

Neither of which Microsoft wants to do, but something's gonna have to give way...

MS didn't want to give W10 consumers more that the 1st year of ESU, but they changed their minds and gave them the 2nd year.
Didn't cost MS anything, they were already committed to a three year program of paid for ESU for organizations and businesses on Windows 10, they just had to flick a switch on the update servers to let consumers get the 2nd year's updates. They could do the same again for the 3rd and final year of ESU.

XxXxX · 2026-10-17T13:24:45-0400

gunrunnerjohn said:
This might explain why Microsoft hasn't turned off the ability to use programs like Rufus to install Windows 11 on incompatible hardware. They could quite easily stop that practice if they wanted to.

i cant burn the new Windows 11 26H2 using Rufus on two systems running Windows 11 26H2
it keeps coming up with USB busy and then Rufus shuts down with a failure
but nothing in any of the logs, reliability monitor or problem devices and no error codes.

but the Media Creation Tool is burning the same 26H2 ISO on the same USB port to the same USB stick drive.

i will dig out my test rig which is running Windows 10 and try burning 26H2 with Rufus on that
but it is looking like MS is putting blocks on Rufus burning the new 26H2 ISO

more testing is needed
best of luck Steve ..

cheaterslick · 2026-10-17T14:02:44-0400

TraderGary said:
or Windows 10 will just continue to work like it always has. All Microsoft is doing is not updating it anymore. They aren't stopping Windows 10 from working. Heck there are still many folks that still use Windows 7 for Pete's sake.

I wouldn't use it without security updates. I don't think you're gonna find too many people around here who advise doing that.

And I've been one to hold on to old OSes for as long as I could get away with it, and then only upgraded to the next only at the last moment.

Bree said:
MS didn't want to give W10 consumers more that the 1st year of ESU, but they changed their minds and gave them the 2nd year.
Didn't cost MS anything, they were already committed to a three year program of paid for ESU for organizations and businesses on Windows 10, they just had to flick a switch on the update servers to let consumers get the 2nd year's updates. They could do the same again for the 3rd and final year of ESU.

They could extend Windows 10 even longer than that, if they wanted to. And if the right circumstances present itself, they may even have to.

As I said before, something's got to give...

cheaterslick · 2026-10-17T14:06:47-0400

XxXxX said:
but it is looking like MS is putting blocks on Rufus burning the new 26H2 ISO

If it turns out to be true, then why do you think they are?

XxXxX said:
more testing is needed

Definitely. Let us know what you come up with and thanks!

TraderGary · 2026-10-17T14:16:39-0400

cheaterslick said:
I wouldn't use it without security updates. I don't think you're gonna find too many people around here who advise doing that.

And I've been one to hold on to old OSes for as long as I could get away with it, and then only upgraded to the next only at the last moment.

I agree, I too am always using up to date hardware and software. However, there are some with very limited incomes that have no choice. They either use what they have, or they are no longer online.

cheaterslick · 2026-10-17T14:25:14-0400

TraderGary said:
However, there are some with very limited incomes that have no choice. They either use what they have, or they are no longer online.

Oh, I've been there, done that.

A lot of people out there don't even have a computer at home anymore. Most will prolly use their smartphones for what they want to do, anyway.

RD Mercer · 2026-10-17T14:32:15-0400

Really, if some are only using their PC to browse the web, there are other OS's they can use. Personally, I could probably get away with another OS, but I do use Word every now and again, but no other apps. I'm used to the Windows platform, since Windows 3.0, so at my age, changing would probably be real confusing.

gunrunnerjohn · 2026-10-17T15:52:49-0400

RD Mercer said:
Really, if some are only using their PC to browse the web, there are other OS's they can use. Personally, I could probably get away with another OS, but I do use Word every now and again, but no other apps. I'm used to the Windows platform, since Windows 3.0, so at my age, changing would probably be real confusing.

There are numerous Word compatible office suites, a few good ones are free. Maybe Linux is in your future...

cheaterslick · 2026-10-17T16:11:38-0400

gunrunnerjohn said:
There are numerous Word compatible office suites, a few good ones are free. Maybe Linux is in your future...

Better yet, go back to this....

WordPerfect 5.1 (DOS)

During the late 1980's, WordPerfect was THE standard word processor for DOS based PCs in big business. Under DOS, it competed mostly against Wordstar. WordPerfect for Windows enjoyed some success in the early Windows environments, but was quickly displaced by Microsoft Word for Windows. Later...

winworldpc.com

RD Mercer · 2026-10-17T16:13:56-0400

gunrunnerjohn said:
There are numerous Word compatible office suites, a few good ones are free. Maybe Linux is in your future...

Naw! as I said, anything else would be to confusing.

Marie SWE · 2026-10-17T17:44:17-0400

If microsoft really want people to stop using win10 when Ram/disk prices is like they are, so people cant afford upgrade to required hardware... Microsoft has the power to just change the installer so win11 can be installed on older hardware.
As long bypassing works, then its no real minimum requirements.. just preferred requirements.

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