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Marie SWE · Oct 18, 2026

AK6DN said:
They could have allowed a seamless Win10 to Win11 upgrade on most of the existing Win10 base of systems.
But IMHO Microsoft got greedy and likely worked behind the scenes with the system hardware vendors to push the new hardware 'required' for Win11.
But lots of customers balked, and thus the ESU path to keep running Win10.
Then system AI developers came in and with their massive demands for hardware that blew up the Win10 to Win11 hardware upgrade path,
making it impossible or prohibitively expensive to replace existing Win10 system with a new Win11 system.
Next year Microsoft is going to want you to ditch your Win11 system anyway and go out and replace it with a brand new AI enabled system.

I dont know what to answer.
MS has the power of changing the minimum requirements... Continue to push ESU until Ram crises is over.. or lose people to Linux as Linux becomes more user-friendlier for every year

CarlSD said:
Hehe... don't tempt me.

I was reading somewhere (and I think someone also mentioned on these forums) that somebody may have found a way to get around the SSE4.2 and PopCnt requirements for Windows 11 24H2 and above. I'll keep an eye on that but apparently it is only 'experimental' at this stage. Seems that only about 1% of Windows 11 files require SSE4.2 and PopCnt at the moment. Funny about that, must be the 1% that prevents Windows from booting if your CPU doesn't have the new requirements.

I ran that old pc for a few more hours today with no problems whatsoever (bit slowish though as you'd expect). W11 23H2 fully updated to Nov '25 which is as far as it will go. The BIOS for it is the latest one (from 2009) but I re-flashed it anyway in case there was any corruption after all the years this PC was running, especially after the button battery finally died, whenever that was.

I should have snapped a few pictures of the old PC case it was all in before I threw it out. I might have been able to clean it but it would have taken ages, there was so much dust and dirt in it and the air intakes and fans were totally clogged up. I would have been surprised if any air had been getting into the case at all.

I didn't investigate it fully but someone had done a splice job or something on the front panel wires for the old case, there was black electrical tape wrapped around parts of it. That was when I finally decided it wasn't worth all the trouble and just put everything into a new case.

I even put in a USB3 PCI card that I found in my collection because that old motherboard from 2007 only has USB2. It gives me 3 USB3 ports on the back and I can also connect the cable for the front panel USB3 port to the card which I would have had to leave disconnected if I didn't have that card. I haven't checked yet to see if the ports actually run at USB3 speeds but at least they're working according to Device Manager.

I would never mess with Home/Pro as its a rolling release that changes with every H release.
Win 1 to 8.1 was LTSC releases, so once it was installed it never changed..
When doing deep system mods you will get into trouble in some way or another when it updating/up-rolling to a new version.
Then you have to tweak it all again.
When using win10/11 LTSC you dont get that problem. Once it is installed it stays as is.

Messing(deep tweaking) with Home/Pro is good for learning. But if you dont do it for learning its just a waste of time messing with Home/pro to redo things every six month or what it is when they release a new major H-release.
If it takes 1-2 hour to "fix" the uproll two times a year.. i rather spend time with friends or do other things on those hours.... and that is why i went for the win10 LTSC IoT version..
Install once, Tweak once, then have updates until the hardware dies or the OS goes EOL.

RD Mercer · Oct 18, 2026

Marie SWE said:
I dont know what to answer.
MS has the power of changing the minimum requirements... Continue to push ESU until Ram crises is over.. or lose people to Linux as Linux becomes more user-friendlier for every year

I'm really surprised the major computer hardware mfg's are not barking about this Ram issue. I guess they're ecstatic just selling the hardware for AI, seems like a win/win for both, and of course a loss for the Po Folks.

HTA · Oct 19, 2026

Ghot said:
The "Consortium" probably hired you, long ago.

He probably owns stock in those companies.

SIW2 · Oct 19, 2026

A bit of fun

the cases are £55 at Currys seem to only have black or blue

Marie SWE · Oct 19, 2026

SIW2 said:
A bit of fun

What is a bit fun, that they build a pink PC or why the do it for?
I dont find the correct English wording, but i feel it's wonderful when people(Men) get involved in the pink ribbon and the breast cancer problem.

Wolfzz · 2026-10-28T07:51:04-0400

SK Hynix Rings the Alarm Bells on Memory Supply, Says Shortages To Persist Through 2030

SK Hynix Rings the Alarm Bells on Memory Supply, Says Shortages To Persist Through 2030 Despite Expansion, 50% Capacity Now Going Towards Long-Term Agreements Through 2027-2028

SK Hynix estimates that memory supply shortages will persist through 2030 despite the creation of additional production capacity.

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RD Mercer · 2026-10-28T13:28:44-0400

There is a lot of different articles floating around "now more than ever" regarding the the AI bubble being about to blow. Hopefully all the PC technology related companies get paid. Somehow I believe that AI got way ahead of itself, and by some of these PC technology related companies treating us like stepchildren, 'it could" be that since they put all their eggs in one basket, they may need us stepchildren to get them back on the map in the future.

A lot of companies have switched core work to make heavy use of AI, so when tokens get significantly more expensive they will have to either pay up or stop using AI, this will mean either a dramatic overnight reduction in capabilities or a need to rehire and retrain a significant workforce in a short period of time. I have read around half a dozen companies in the IT community who have bet their futures on cheap AI and are already feeling the pinch of rising subscription costs.

There's also the issue of debt a lot of AI expansion is done using money from either investors or debt, which is either loans from banks or bond issuing.
If that debt cant be paid back when it needs to, the company can be declared insolvent. Shareholders will lose out as the company is put into bankruptcy, and a lot of those shareholders might end up being hedge funds or pension funds, so people with 401ks etc. will see a value reduction to account for the loss of money.

A prime example of debt being used in a public company is SpaceX buying $40Billion of AI hardware from Nvidia - SpaceX had a net profit of $4billion in the last quarter (and losses before that), so that $40billion came from debt being issued. Now SpaceX has to find $40billion (plus interest) to pay that debt back for its AI investment. Yeah, this is going to be fun to watch as time goes on, I'm not pro or con for AI, I just think it took off putting the cart before the horse.

SIW2 · 2026-10-28T13:40:30-0400

I think you will find some of the other AI ventures are in hock several times that $40bn.

There is a lot of different articles floating around "now more than ever" regarding the the AI bubble being about to blow

That is just one the ways things could go pear shaped.

AK6DN · 2026-10-28T16:25:09-0400

SIW2 said:
I think you will find some of the other AI ventures are in hock several times that $40bn.

That is just one the ways things could go pear shaped.

The only way the AI companies that are planning to spend hundreds of billions to trillions of dollars in capital expenditure is to recoup that via revenue.
From companies and organizations and people that use AI, thru fees to use that same AI.
That is the way it works.
So the market for AI services must explode.
Or the AI companies will implode.

gunrunnerjohn · 2026-10-28T16:52:04-0400

I'm lousy at predicting the future, but I too am a bit skeptical of the AI explosion, I'm thinking that soon there will be the wrong kind of AI explosion, more like an AI implosion!

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