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Hi folks
bit confused as to the meaning of Sparse files. Google explanations not clear.
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bit confused as to the meaning of Sparse files. Google explanations not clear.
Wikipedia seems clear enough. A sparse file is one where empty space is not stored in the file itself. A typical example of a sparse file would be an expanding .vhdx file for a Hyper-V VM.

The advantage of sparse files is that storage space is only allocated when actually needed: Storage capacity is conserved, and large files can occasionally be created even if insufficient free space for the original file is available on the storage media....

For example, a virtual machine image with max size of 100 GB that has 2 GB of files actually written would require the full 100 GB when backed by pre-allocated storage, yet only 2 GB on a sparse file.
 

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I didn't know either, but I think MS's explanation says it best.

"A file in which much of the data is zeros is said to contain a sparse data set. Files like these are typically very large for example, a file that contains image data to be processed or a matrix within a high-speed database. The problem with files that contain sparse data sets is that the majority of the file does not contain useful data and, because of this, they are an inefficient use of disk space.

The file compression in the NTFS file system is a partial solution to the problem. All data in the file that is not explicitly written is explicitly set to zero. File compression compacts these ranges of zeros. However, a drawback of file compression is that access time may increase due to data compression and decompression.

Support for sparse files is introduced in the NTFS file system as another way to make disk space usage more efficient. When sparse file functionality is enabled, the system does not allocate hard disk drive space to a file except in regions where it contains nonzero data."
 

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Is not Sparse Files a method many Disk Cleaners use to perform a Drive Wipe?
 

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Sparse file

A file with all the "few and far between" sucked out of it.

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A file in which much of the data is zeros is said to contain a sparse data set. Files like these are typically very large for example, a file that contains image data to be processed or a matrix within a high-speed database. The problem with files that contain sparse data sets is that the majority of the file does not contain useful data and, because of this, they are an inefficient use of disk space.
Unless I'm missing something, it sounds like they are only good for wasting drive space.
 

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Unless I'm missing something, it sounds like they are only good for wasting drive space.
What you are missing is that a sparse file with a lot of empty space in it doesn't actually use any physical storage for the unused space.

For example, I can create a .vhdx file for a 10TB virtual drive. But as a sparse file its physical size is just 230MB until I start to write to it. It looks and behaves as a full 10TB file, and as I write real data to it then it will expand. But at around 180GB written I will not be able to add any more data, as it would have expanded to occupy all the available space of the C: partition where the file is located.

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What you are missing is that a sparse file with a lot of empty space in it doesn't actually use any physical storage for the unused space.

For example, I can create a .vhdx file for a 10TB virtual drive. But as a sparse file its physical size is just 230MB until I start to write to it. It looks and behaves as a full 10TB file, and as I write real data to it then it will expand. But at around 180GB written I will not be able to add any more data, as it would have expanded to occupy all the available space of the C: partition where the file is located.

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I'm only going by what MS said. because of this, they are an inefficient use of disk space.
 

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sparse file = balloon file, it expands/shrinks with content/air you let in/out, it has been invented to be most efficient with physical resources

OP, please mark this thread 'Solved' (y)
 

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I'm only going by what MS said. because of this, they are an inefficient use of disk space.

You misunderstood what Microsoft is saying. They were talking about sparse data (unused segments of the file) in a non-sparse file being inefficient because disk blocks for the unused space are reserved and unavailable for use. Sparse files do not reserve disk blocks for unused file segments, so are efficient when the whole file is not populated. Sparse files have nothing to do with compression, so Microsoft's use of sparse data to include zeros (compressible data) confuses their explanation. Sparse files can contain a series of consecutive zeros or other data and hence can be compressed to a smaller size. Sparse files have nothing to do with file compression.

Sparse files are efficient and most useful for use cases where segments of the file are not filled, are deleted, or written to after creation. So a file that contains database information is continually updated like this, or a system mapped to a virtual image as mentioned already. And another use is encrypted folders that may be implemented as an encrypted sparse file, since you can add and remove files from an encrypted folder, and you want it to take as little disk space as needed - an example is Apple's sparse bundle.
 
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@Bree and @geneo, both of you are probably correct but this is the complete sentence I'm going by. "The problem with files that contain sparse data sets is that the majority of the file does not contain useful data and, because of this, they are an inefficient use of disk space." I don't see how I'm missunderstanding that sentence.
 

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@Bree and @geneo, both of you are probably correct but this is the complete sentence I'm going by. "The problem with files that contain sparse data sets is that the majority of the file does not contain useful data and, because of this, they are an inefficient use of disk space." I don't see how I'm missunderstanding that sentence.

As I mentioned, "sparse data" is not the same as a "sparse file". They are trying to say that sparse data in a regular file is inefficient, while sparse data in a sparse file is not.
 

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As I mentioned, "sparse data" is not the same as a "sparse file". They are trying to say that sparse data in a regular file is inefficient, while sparse data in a sparse file is not.
Like I said, I'm only going on that one sentence.
 

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Like I said, I'm only going on that one sentence.
That is the problem. Context plays a role in what that one sentence means. The meaning is in the message as a whole.
 

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this is the complete sentence I'm going by. "The problem with files that contain sparse data sets is that the majority of the file does not contain useful data and, because of this, they are an inefficient use of disk space." I don't see how I'm missunderstanding that sentence.
Your not, but MS were not describing a sparse file in that sentence. They were setting out the scenario for which a sparse file is the solution.

They then went on to say why a sparse file is the solution to that problem.

Microsoft said:
When sparse file functionality is enabled, the system does not allocate hard disk drive space to a file except in regions where it contains nonzero data.... maintenance of the sparse file is transparent to all processes that access it, and is more efficient than compression for this particular scenario.

Full document here:

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
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