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, so technically your data is backed up in that should one drive die, the data is still on the other drive.
Technically (and non-technically) your data is not backed up, as a mirror is not a backup in any way, shape or form. I have already previously tried to explain why... it's because, by mere definition alone, a backup of a dataset that is stored on the primary information repository requires (!) to be stored on a secondary information repository that is (also by mere definition alone) separate from the primary one, and, in RAID, two members of the same RAID array can never be in two different information repositories at once. For this, at least one of both physical drives (each one of which is a member of the same RAID array) would have to be physically removed from the RAID array. So, specifically in this regard, RAID is merely equivalent to JBOD, as the "elsewhere" in "storing a copy of the data elsewhere" is not referring to "elsewhere within the same information repository".

In addition to the above, the two members of the same RAID array always ramain in the same information repository until at least one of both members is physically removed not just from the RAID array itself, but from the whole system that provides data access to this same information repository via (a) data connection(s). One example of a system that provides data access to a secondary information repository is a backup server.

Further, in a typical home network environment where the average user (who only has a basic skillset and knowledge) is running a NAS, the NAS neither is a secondary information repository nor can be considered a part thereof. That's just because in such an environment the connection method or infrastructure used to hook up the NAS is typically not technically materially capable to divide the primary information repository into one primary and one secondary information repository. Rather, it's just a primary information repository that spans multiple enclosures and that's it... full end of story.

To summarize, the word "adequate" doesn't actually even begin to apply. Those who keep saying that they only plug in their NAS each time when they run their next backup job typically are those who are simply forgetting the fact that their secondary information repository immediately ceases to exist the moment when they plug it back in. Each time when they do that, it effectively becomes part of their primary information repository (i.e., an expansion thereof) until the next time when they unplug it. Again, whether their NAS uses RAID or JBOD, doesn't make a single difference in that regard.

Finally, RAID 1 (mirroring) reduces fault tolerance, the main purpose of which is to minimize the downtime (another benefit being that data can be read simultaneously from multiple physical drives so the read performance goes up... albeit JBOD does not prevent one from reading data from multiple physical drives per se...). That is, if only one drive fails in a RAID 1 array that consists of two physical drives, the system still continues to function normally. Whereas if the RAID 1 array consists of three physical drives, two drives can fail at once (or only one drive can fail and, next, before the RAID has successfully been rebuilt, a second drive can fail) and so forth. Hot standby, or hot spares can optionally be used (if the hardware allows it) so that the RAID rebuild can be started automatically as opposed to can be started only after the manual intervention of replacing failed drive(s), and, adding more members to the RAID 1 array can be considered (optionally also) to further strengthen resilience against multiple drive failures. (There also exist other forms of data mirroring besides RAID 1, though.)

As an aside, similarly, if the system uses two hardware RAID controllers (or HBAs) instead of only one, which is only one (common) example of what is known as duplexing, then if only one hardware RAID controller (or HBA) fails, the system still continues to function normally also.
 
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Raid is not a backup, RAID 1 is not a backup. A backup means a secondary copy of your data you can pull if you corrupt your first one. If you get ransomware on your raid 1 drive and a file is encrypted and you are locked out of it, it's on both drive 0 and drive 1...exactly the same...locked out of both. Your "backup" copy on the 2nd drive does you no good whasoever here. But if you happen to have a drive fail, rest assured that that your ransomware encrypted file is still ransomwhere encrypted on the second drive in your RAID 1 volume.
 

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Because people will argue if you say the sky is blue. We KNOW RAID IS NOT A BACKUP!!!!!

What I said, is certain RAID setups where you have multiple drives data will be mirrored to the other drive. Mirroring is a form of backup in that if one drive in a "RAID" setup goes, the data is on the other drive is there. Is this not true???


If someone said black was black, someone would tell you you're wrong, it's a shade of gray. If you said it was gray, they'd argue black.

Gesh.
 

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What I said, is certain RAID setups where you have multiple drives data will be mirrored to the other drive. Mirroring is a form of backup in that if one drive in a "RAID" setup goes, the data is on the other drive is there. Is this not true???
If we want to argue the semantics of the word backup, one could go with your interpretation here and call it a backup. As a server engineer, we are taught and it's engrained in our brains that RAID does not remove the need for Backups.

I recall arguing with somebody here recently about the disadvantages of a RAID 1 mirror. Most would say, with RAID 1, or RAID 10, you lose 50% of your drive space. If you buy 2 x 8TB drives and configure them in a RAID 1 mirror, you get a total usable space of 8TB for storing files, folders, etc. This person argued that you didn't lose any drive space at all, you just used it in a different manner and it was storing the 2nd copy of each of your files....so he thought the argument that you only get 1/2 your drive space is garbage. That's obviously one way to interpret it.

I've found with both of these arguments here, it's probably just not worth arguing about them. RAID should not be considered sufficient and therefore eliminate a need to take backups. At work if I said, hey we got RAID we don't need backups, I'd get fired.
 

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Just to provide some practical experience to the discussion this thread has evolved into: 95% of the time I have had to resort to a backup was either the restore of an accidentally deleted file or directory, or the restore of a whole system after a clean install of the OS. In the one case I can think of, where I would have needed to retrieve a backup to restore a catastrophically failed system, that backup failed. At the time CrashPlan had incredibly cheap cloud storage, but somehow the restore failed because of some backup corruption issue. Needless to say, I am not with CrashPlan, anymore.
 

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If you do occasional backups onto a RAID, it is backup. What puzzles me is people who want a live backup and don't realise that if they accidentally delete a file or folder it will also be deleted on their live backup. My backups are snapshots and can't be ruined by a stupid mistake on my live systems.
 

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Just to provide some practical experience to the discussion this thread has evolved into: 95% of the time I have had to resort to a backup was either the restore of an accidentally deleted file or directory, or the restore of a whole system after a clean install of the OS. In the one case I can think of, where I would have needed to retrieve a backup to restore a catastrophically failed system, that backup failed. At the time CrashPlan had incredibly cheap cloud storage, but somehow the restore failed because of some backup corruption issue. Needless to say, I am not with CrashPlan, anymore.
*smiling* .. this is a classic forums phenomenon :cool: (y)
The thing is as soon someone talks about raid and you use the word backup in the same thread even its different posts.. it almost always starts a debate ;-) it doesn't matter if its a Windows forum or a Linux forum.. there is a few keywords in IT that always get the avalanche in motion.

So just grab your coffee, lean back and enjoy the ride. *LOL* :cool:
So if you are really bored some time.... combine words like you seen here.. Raid is backup... or VPN is privacy.. and what more is a good avalanche starters.. If you are on a Linux forum, I need an AV and a Firewall.. and on a windows forum.. Windows has builtin spyware and NSA backdors.. and so on..... Then you will be busy for the next few days. ;)
 

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Or people could actually be decent human beings and stop arguing the same points over and over and over again....
 

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Or people could actually be decent human beings and stop arguing the same points over and over and over again....
:cool: (y) But do you really believe.. that will ever happen on open forums. *LOL*:wink: 😁

It is good to mention it as a foot-note, as some dont know the difference.. but it don't need a five page debate though. :D
 

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If I believed it would actually happen, I'd probably not be so frustrated that it is not happening lol.
 

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    Cooling
    Dell
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
If I believed it would actually happen, I'd probably not be so frustrated that it is not happening lol.
True.. so true :D
But if its bad weather outside, a boring day with just crap on TV and nothing fun going on.. Then threads like this can be a bit entertaining to make time fly, :lmao:
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Linux: Debian, Kali-linux, Alma, Win: 7, 8.1,...i3, i5 and i7 From 2gen to 9th gen... Server ...
    OS
    Linux: Debian, Kali-linux, Alma, Win: 7, 8.1,2012R
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Elitebook 840, AsusX53, Aspire E1-572. AsusUX32A, HP Pro3130mt+3010mt, HP Proliant ML150, 3xCustom-PC, i3, i5, i7
    CPU
    i3, i5 and i7 From 2gen to 9th gen... Server dual Xenon
    Hard Drives
    Sata, M.2, SAS
  • At a glance

    Retro: 2003server.XPpro, Win2000, Win98SE, Wi...Oldest intel 8088 up to P4 dual core
    Operating System
    Retro: 2003server.XPpro, Win2000, Win98SE, Win95, Win3.11, MS-DOS, IBM-DOS
    Manufacturer/Model
    Commodore, AST, Fujitsu, Compaq, etc etc. etc Around 15 desktops and 20 laptops in the collection
    CPU
    Oldest intel 8088 up to P4 dual core
    Hard Drives
    MFM, IDE, SCSI
Or people could actually be decent human beings and stop arguing the same points over and over and over again....
Oh, don't be such an old fart! 😂 Just click on 'unwatch' as I do for many tedious threads.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8655AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics16GB
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8655
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic LX15PRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics
    Memory
    16GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    Acer Swift SF114-34 laptop
    OS Windows 11 Pro 26200.8524
    CPU Pentium Silver N6000
    RAM 4GB
    SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB (an upgrade)
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506Atom N450 1.66GHz2GB
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Problem is, many of said threads also have valuable information - just buried deep by the rhetoric.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 23H2 Current buildAMD Ryzen 9 3950X4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHzEVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12...
    OS
    Windows 11 23H2 Current build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spectrum ES07DC9 4K Gaming Monitor (Glossy)
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD (USB)
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420 RGB + Air 3x 140mm case fans (pull front) + 1x 120 mm (push back) and 1 x 120 mm (pull bottom)
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for Business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable), Chrome, Edge , Arc
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB 5 Beta
  • At a glance

    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 250...16 GBIntel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Operating System
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
True.. but after a thread is marked as solved.. who really cares if it derails and goes off-topic. :-)

Edit
as long no one gets hurt or jumped on.. and everyone has a fun time.. and might even learn new things on the way :-)
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Linux: Debian, Kali-linux, Alma, Win: 7, 8.1,...i3, i5 and i7 From 2gen to 9th gen... Server ...
    OS
    Linux: Debian, Kali-linux, Alma, Win: 7, 8.1,2012R
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Elitebook 840, AsusX53, Aspire E1-572. AsusUX32A, HP Pro3130mt+3010mt, HP Proliant ML150, 3xCustom-PC, i3, i5, i7
    CPU
    i3, i5 and i7 From 2gen to 9th gen... Server dual Xenon
    Hard Drives
    Sata, M.2, SAS
  • At a glance

    Retro: 2003server.XPpro, Win2000, Win98SE, Wi...Oldest intel 8088 up to P4 dual core
    Operating System
    Retro: 2003server.XPpro, Win2000, Win98SE, Win95, Win3.11, MS-DOS, IBM-DOS
    Manufacturer/Model
    Commodore, AST, Fujitsu, Compaq, etc etc. etc Around 15 desktops and 20 laptops in the collection
    CPU
    Oldest intel 8088 up to P4 dual core
    Hard Drives
    MFM, IDE, SCSI
And those not marked solved?

:smirk:
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 23H2 Current buildAMD Ryzen 9 3950X4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHzEVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12...
    OS
    Windows 11 23H2 Current build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spectrum ES07DC9 4K Gaming Monitor (Glossy)
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD (USB)
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420 RGB + Air 3x 140mm case fans (pull front) + 1x 120 mm (push back) and 1 x 120 mm (pull bottom)
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for Business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable), Chrome, Edge , Arc
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB 5 Beta
  • At a glance

    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 250...16 GBIntel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Operating System
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Linux: Debian, Kali-linux, Alma, Win: 7, 8.1,...i3, i5 and i7 From 2gen to 9th gen... Server ...
    OS
    Linux: Debian, Kali-linux, Alma, Win: 7, 8.1,2012R
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Elitebook 840, AsusX53, Aspire E1-572. AsusUX32A, HP Pro3130mt+3010mt, HP Proliant ML150, 3xCustom-PC, i3, i5, i7
    CPU
    i3, i5 and i7 From 2gen to 9th gen... Server dual Xenon
    Hard Drives
    Sata, M.2, SAS
  • At a glance

    Retro: 2003server.XPpro, Win2000, Win98SE, Wi...Oldest intel 8088 up to P4 dual core
    Operating System
    Retro: 2003server.XPpro, Win2000, Win98SE, Win95, Win3.11, MS-DOS, IBM-DOS
    Manufacturer/Model
    Commodore, AST, Fujitsu, Compaq, etc etc. etc Around 15 desktops and 20 laptops in the collection
    CPU
    Oldest intel 8088 up to P4 dual core
    Hard Drives
    MFM, IDE, SCSI

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProIntel Core i5-8279u32GB DDR4 2666MhzIntel Iris Plus 655
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.
  • At a glance

    Windows 10 ProRyzen 9 5900x64GB DDR4-3600EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.
I'll maintain my offsite outpost.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 23H2 Current buildAMD Ryzen 9 3950X4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHzEVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12...
    OS
    Windows 11 23H2 Current build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spectrum ES07DC9 4K Gaming Monitor (Glossy)
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD (USB)
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420 RGB + Air 3x 140mm case fans (pull front) + 1x 120 mm (push back) and 1 x 120 mm (pull bottom)
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for Business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable), Chrome, Edge , Arc
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB 5 Beta
  • At a glance

    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 250...16 GBIntel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Operating System
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
I will leave this thread now.. i have IRL calling on my attention. :-)
Take care guys :cool:
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Linux: Debian, Kali-linux, Alma, Win: 7, 8.1,...i3, i5 and i7 From 2gen to 9th gen... Server ...
    OS
    Linux: Debian, Kali-linux, Alma, Win: 7, 8.1,2012R
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Elitebook 840, AsusX53, Aspire E1-572. AsusUX32A, HP Pro3130mt+3010mt, HP Proliant ML150, 3xCustom-PC, i3, i5, i7
    CPU
    i3, i5 and i7 From 2gen to 9th gen... Server dual Xenon
    Hard Drives
    Sata, M.2, SAS
  • At a glance

    Retro: 2003server.XPpro, Win2000, Win98SE, Wi...Oldest intel 8088 up to P4 dual core
    Operating System
    Retro: 2003server.XPpro, Win2000, Win98SE, Win95, Win3.11, MS-DOS, IBM-DOS
    Manufacturer/Model
    Commodore, AST, Fujitsu, Compaq, etc etc. etc Around 15 desktops and 20 laptops in the collection
    CPU
    Oldest intel 8088 up to P4 dual core
    Hard Drives
    MFM, IDE, SCSI

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