What Do You Expect From Next Valley (Windows 12)?


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Microsoft has now gone back to its classic 3-year development cycle for new Windows versions.

There won't be a version 23H2 for W11, it's been dropped according to Zac Bowden (and remember, he was right about W11)... Instead, Microsoft has begun working the next release of the OS, dubbed Next Valley. And yes, this is a whole new major release. Not just a feature update.

I presume, judging from the codename, that it will be a "Windows 7-Like" refinement for W11.

It will probably keep the same hardware requirements, and also be a free upgrade.


Also, I believe its safe to say that this OS we are testing now on the Dev Channel is, in fact, Next Valley.
 
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Microsoft has now gone back to its classic 3-year development cycle for new Windows versions.

There won't be a version 23H2 for W11, it's been dropped according to Zac Bowden (and remember, he was right about W11)... Instead, Microsoft has begun working the next release of the OS, dubbed Next Valley. And yes, this is a whole new major release. Not just a feature update.

I presume, judging from the codename, that it will be a "Windows 7-Like" refinement for W11.

It will probably keep the same hardware requirements, and also be a free upgrade.


Also, I believe its safe to say that this OS we are testing now on the Dev Channel is, in fact, Next Valley.



 

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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4201)
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
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    Firefox 3.x ??
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

TechnoFlash7560

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    Sharkoon M25-W Mid-Tower Case
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4201)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
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    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
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    Logitech Optical M-100
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
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    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
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    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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I expect it will get bigger, just want a system for professionals to be lean and mean but will never get anything like that lol
 

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    Asus Sabertooth r2
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    2400 MHz DDR 3 GSkill
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    Nvidia 1070
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    Denon receiver 7.1/Atmos
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    LG C7
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    4k
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    Samsung SSD 840 512 gig
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    Hyper 212 Cpu cooler with case fans
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cereberus

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The clue is in name Windows 12.

More ads, lots of cosmetic garbage, zillions of emojis, editors to refuse words more than 6 letters, only videos aged 12 year old maximum to be allowed, pen utilities to be replaced by thick crayon utilities, logon sound to be replaced by "The wheels on the bus go round and round".

Anybody 13 or over will have to provide evidence of family members 12 or under to be permitted to use it (as a standard user - only 12 years old or under will be allowed admin rights)

On the negative side (or plus depending on view) - iphones will spontaneously combust if connected to Win12.
 
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    Yep, Laptop has one.
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    16 GB
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    Integrated Intel Iris XE
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    Realtek built in
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    1920x1080
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    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
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    Yep, got one
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Lots of people will install Windows 12 and then make all kinds of hacks to make it look like Windows 11, 10 or 7. (Why does nobody want to make Windows look like Windows 8, I wonder?)

Lots of people will swear that their computer upgraded to Windows 12 completely on its own, forced upon them by Microsoft.

Lots of people will ask how they can prevent Microsoft from forcing them to upgrade to Windows 12 - and probably completely break Windows Update in the process.

Lots of people will be asking, within a week of its release, why they are not getting Windows 12 through Windows Update.
 

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    Windows 11
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    Homebuilt
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
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    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
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    32GB
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    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
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    Windows 11 Education
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    Laptop
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    Dell Inspiron 7773
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    Intel i7-8550U
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    32GB
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    Nvidia Geforce MX150
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    Realtek
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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
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    8GB
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    Radeon Graphics
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    laptop screen
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    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
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    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Dell Lattitude E4310
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    i5 M 520
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    0T6M8G
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    4GB
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    1366x768
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    500GB HDD
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.
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