What Do You Expect From Next Valley (Windows 12)?

Just wait till they ditch the Win32 platform all together!!!
And you thought the right click context menu sucks now!?!?!?

For me, it's an expectation rather than a want, but it would be good if Microsoft made a commitment one way or the other, rather than simply drifting towards the Apple example of providing a relatively short warning period to developers and users. Of course, many Windows built-in 'apps' are still 32-bit only, so if those begin to change as the end of support for Windows 10 approaches, that could be interpreted as signalling an evolving change. It's equally unclear (to me) what MS sees as it's target market for Windows for ARM.

It will have windows with square edges instead of rounded, will otherwise look like Windows 11 except it will have features like tabbed file explorer and other useful ones expunged. It will also only support Intel processors 10th gen and up.

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Hi,
I've come to not expect much out of ms
I just look at what @Brink comes up with to straighten it out

Headaches...I expect lots and lots of headaches. Why would 12 in its infancy prove to be any different than every OS since 7.

glasskuter said:

Headaches...I expect lots and lots of headaches. Why would 12 in its infancy prove to be any different than every OS since 7.

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In all honesty, Windows 11 is probably the most robust OS even, at initial release ever. Sure it has some (mostly cosmetic) issues and biggest issue is people are less than enamoured with the gui, but these do not detract from its overall reliability.

A year in, and I have not once had to do a repair upgrade for a broken OS. I did do a repair upgrade to get off of RP Channel, as MS's promises you could leave once the official version was released turned out to be hogwash.

Of course, now cue some posts about its robustness, but remember when e.g. W10 came out, we had multiple pages of issues, particularly freezing, BSODs etc.

Even the media have been remarkably quiet about W11 issues, with comments focussing on mostly cosmetic stuff e.g. Task Manager moving to Power Menu rather than Taskbar popup (now changed).

In the end, it may not be exactly as we would like, but it is robust.

cereberus said:

In all honesty, Windows 11 is probably the most robust OS even, at initial release ever. Sure it has some (mostly cosmetic) issues and biggest issue is people are less than enamoured with the gui, but these do not detract from its overall reliability.

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That's not really surprising. It seems that the OS kernel for Windows 11 is little changed (if at all) from that of Windows 10. The much vaunted greater security in 11 seems to come mainly from turning on things that were already in 10 but turned off by default, Memory Integrity for example.

The GUI was the biggest change. IMHO 21H2's GUI was not quite ready for release. There were some features from 10 and earlier that were missing until 22H2, like groups on Start and click and drag to the taskbar.