What happens if I don't install KB5058411

Birk · Friday at 1:22 AM

After 4 retries this update fails to install on my Win11 Pro system. 3 days of looking for fixes has yielded no help. So I'm wondering what consequences will I face if I just forget about it?

glasskuter · Friday at 1:57 AM

Your June cumulative will have the same fixes as the May cumulative does along with whatever changes MS make during the next month. So to answer your question there are no consequences for not installing K5058411.

However, whatever caused this update to fail will more than likely cause the next one to fail as well. I saw where you had mentioned your failures but you did so each time in someone else's thread. If next month's cumulative also fails, it would behoove you to open your own thread. Post the same logs in your own thread as is mentioned by @zbook in post #10 in this thread.

Cumulative Update Fail KB5058411

This fails to install, ran DISM clean-up utility & it fails to reinstall some files. But what files?

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Birk · Friday at 2:01 AM

Got it - thanks.

My guess is the fix will come down to a refresh reinstall of Win11 Pro. I've done this before with Wun11 Home and it worked quite well. I may get impatient and do that anyway.

antspants · Friday at 3:20 AM

Try the following:

Disable Secure Boot
Disable 3rd Party AntiVirus

Try again

Otherwise, try the In-Place Upgrade.

antspants · Friday at 3:35 AM

It’s worth a try. Another recent thread from yesterday re Cumulative Update Fail KB5058411

antspants said:
True. But it’s better for this forum to link to the forums tutorials. Simply because it promotes the forum.

@MrPig i’d agree an in-place upgrade/repair often fixes the cumulative update fails. The standalone installer can also prove successful.
Scroll down to How to get this update (a little inconvenient in my opinion)

Otherwise: Option One

Repair Install Windows 11 with an In-place Upgrade

This tutorial will show you how to do a repair install of Windows 11 by performing an in-place upgrade without losing anything. If you need to repair or create a new recovery partition or having problems with the Windows 11 operating system on your PC, and the usual solutions will not fix it...

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First you could try;

Temporarily disabling any AntiVirus you have running.

Temporarily disabling Secure Boot in the BIOS

Coolmistry said:
Thanks, you and yes it does fix for me! No more stress and beer for you

MrPig said:
Ran re-install repair & it worked this time after turning secure boot off.

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MrPig · Friday at 6:31 AM

It certainly did. The milky bars are on me!

Berton · Friday at 8:49 AM

I've had a few times where the updates wouldn't work but downloading from the Microsoft Update Catalog then installing did work. Seemed to have depended upon where the process failed, during the download or during the install.

Marcus Vinicus · Friday at 2:45 PM

For anyone who is having issues with Windows Update this tutorial here may be useful to diagnose issues with WU.

Read Windows Update Logs in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to read the Windows Update logs for your Windows 10 or Windows 11 PC. Windows Update client now uses Event Tracing for Windows (ETW) to generate diagnostic logs saved as .etl files in the "%windir%\Logs\WindowsUpdate" folder. This method improves performance and...

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Or reset WU. I've used this on rare occasions when I've had a problem.

Reset Windows Update in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to completely reset Windows Update components and policies to default in Windows 10 and Windows 11. Windows Update keeps Windows 11 updated by automatically downloading and installing the latest updates, drivers, and hotfixes released by Microsoft. Sometimes you...

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thecaretaker · Friday at 2:51 PM

When I had an issue with another Windows Update failing I found turning my Antivirus off temporarily (Eset Nod32 in my case) fixed the issue.

Birk · 2025-05-18T01:56:14-0400

After reading the above posts I took a look at the referenced places in Event Viewer. I found nothing relevant there, but in Windows Logs/System Logs I found these errors:

Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x800F0983: 2025-05 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 24H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5058411).

The hardware real-time clock was not set because evaluation of the ACPI Time and Alarm Device method failed. Status: 0xC0000001.

Needless to say it is not clear to me what the ACPI Time and Alarm Device is - I could not find it in Device Manager. Perhaps it is something referenced only in the BIOS?

garlin · 2025-05-18T02:21:37-0400

Birk said:
After reading the above posts I took a look at the referenced places in Event Viewer. I found nothing relevant there, but in Windows Logs/System Logs I found these errors:

Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x800F0983: 2025-05 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 24H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5058411).

The hardware real-time clock was not set because evaluation of the ACPI Time and Alarm Device method failed. Status: 0xC0000001.

Needless to say it is not clear to me what the ACPI Time and Alarm Device is - I could not find it in Device Manager. Perhaps it is something referenced only in the BIOS?

These two events are unrelated. Events in the Event Log are not always errors.

For some CPU's, there's an optional Windows setting to enhance the accuracy of the real-time clock. What your event message says is Windows checked and it couldn't apply this method to your PC. It's more of a FYI message.

glasskuter · 2025-05-18T02:35:04-0400

Make sure date and time are correct

garlin · 2025-05-18T03:20:12-0400

No, it's not a Time Zone related issue. For specific apps like real-time video or audio recording, Windows can lower latency by giving up some CPU performance. Your CPU may not support all these features thru the ACPI driver.

Birk · 2025-05-18T03:45:00-0400

Got it, thanks. I've just been looking for something that will let me avoid in in-place update.

altae · 2025-05-18T06:03:53-0400

Have you tried downloading and installing the update manually from the Windows update catalogue? This has helped me more than once when an update wouldn't install.

Birk · 2025-05-18T09:37:03-0400

No. In the past I have downloaded updates a couple of times when I had similar problems, and I looked into doing that for this one. But from what I got from the instructions it looked like the procedure for doing that was quite complicated and involved first getting some software that decripted the download and then running that through the descriptor.

That seemed like a potentially error prone process, so I didn't try it.

Levitate11 · 2025-05-18T10:35:15-0400

Birk said:
IN order to check log files I tried to install the update again. Of course it failed the same way. So then I started looking at the various Windows log files after checking the ones mentioned above. I didn't find anything in those that seemed helpful, but I did find these 2 messages in the Windows/Ststem group:

The time provider 'VMICTimeProvider' has indicated that the current hardware and operating environment is not supported and has stopped. This behavior is expected for VMICTimeProvider on non-HyperV-guest environments. This may be the expected behavior for the current provider in the current operating environment as well.

Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x800F0983: 2025-05 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 24H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5058411).

This suggests to me there might be something wrong with some sort of timing device on my system's motherboard. Of course I have no idea what that might be or if it is even correct. I'm posting this only to see if anyone else has any idea what these messages might mean.

@Birk : You accidentally posted the above quote in the thread that the Windows Update Log link brought you too. You can go Delete it over there if you like.

VMICTimeProvider really only matters if you run a VM like Hyper-V or a third party. Whether it runs on all systems (without error) I can't say.

Is the message a warning or an error? I'm guessing warning.

My WAG is that it isn't a problem for the update that's not working. Of course, it could indicate a hardware compatibility problem that is, through some other mechanism, stopping the 24H2 update. But that's not the error you're getting.

antspants · 2025-05-18T11:49:26-0400

Still waiting to read that he tried disabling secure boot.

Birk · 2025-05-18T11:58:26-0400

antspants said:
antspants said:

Still waiting to read that he tried disabling secure boot.

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Sorry - it was around 1 AM last night and I just decided to call it a night. But yes, I did do that - or at least I think I did. The BIOS app on the system didn't have an item specifically labelled Secure Boot - so I picked the one that seemed closest to that.

The CPU I have is an N100 which seems to be quite different from the standard Intel series of CPUs. So I guess I'm not surprised that the BIOS is different too. Plus why would MS put out an update that requires disabling the very code they spent so much time & effort developing (and defending)? This whole situation seems quite curious indeed.

Birk · 2025-05-18T12:03:12-0400

Levitate11 said:
Levitate11 said:

@Birk : You accidentally posted the above quote in the thread that the Windows Update Log link brought you too. You can go Delete it over there if you like.

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Yes, I am aware of that. But I can't find the method for deleting a post - or for editing one that has already been posted.

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