What Start Menu replacement software do you use?


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I use Start Menu X


No scrolling, multiple ways to group items, rapid launch of a customized set of items.

Lightweight no drain at all.
 

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    Windows 10
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    Custome built
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    Intel Core i9-14900K
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    ASUS Pro WS W680-ACE
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    Crucial RAM 128 GB Kit
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    ASUS PHOENIX NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 V2 OC Edition
None
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
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    Dell Optiplex 7080
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    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
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    DELL 0J37VM
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    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
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    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
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    Defender+MWB Premium
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    Beelink Mini PC SER5
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    AMD Ryzen 7 6800U
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    32 gb
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    integrated
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    integrated
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    Benq 27
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    2560x1440
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    1TB Crucial nvme
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    Logitech wired
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    Logitech wireless
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    still too embarrassed to tell
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    Firefox
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    System 3 is non compliant Dell 9020 i7-4770/24gb ram Win11 PRO 26200.8457

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    Windows 11 Home
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    HP 24" AiO
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    Ryzen 7 5825u
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    HP
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    64GB DDR4 3200
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    1TB WD Blue SN580 M2 SSD Partitioned.
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    90W external power brick
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    24" All in One
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    Default Air Cooling
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    HP WiFi UK extended
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    HP WiFi 3 Button
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    Edge & Firefox
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    i5 7200u
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    Dell
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    Intel
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    250GB Crucial 2.5" SSD
    Mouse
    Generic WiFi 3 button
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    WiFi only
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    Firefox
    Antivirus
    ClamAV TK
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
I've used ExplorerPatcher (EP) the whole time I've had Windows 11, primarily to have a Win10-style taskbar on the side instead of the bottom of my screen - screenshot of my well-loved taskbar is attached. But EP is apparently incompatible with 24H2 and newer feature updates, so I'm stuck on 23H2, and that will probably not be acceptable at some point. Which of the other tools mentioned here would do something similar with current updates of Windows 11? Bonus points if it also brings back the ability to organize the start menu's "pinned" apps in specific locations and groups, like Windows 10 did (EP can't do that, as far as I know.)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI Modern 15 A5
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" laptop display + LG 34" ultrawide
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 + 3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD
    Browser
    Firefox Portable
    Antivirus
    Avast! Antivirus Free
    Other Info
    PC, keyboard, and OS are Japan-based, but interface language is set to English for my convenience (American living in Japan).
But EP is apparently incompatible with 24H2 and newer feature updates
No, it is not.
I'm successfully using EP on two 25H2 computers.
Do the update and then install the latest version of EP.

I can't comment on the other Start menu topics you mentioned because I never use the Start menu. My Taskbar toolbars contain everything i need.
My ExplorerPatcher guide to Windows 11 Taskbar Toolbars [post #2225] - ElevenForum


Denis



Welcome to ElevenForum.

It's really worth making time to browse through the ElevenForum Tutorial index - there's a shortcut to it at the top of every ElevenForum page [within the Tutorials dropdown list].
- At the foot of the ElevenForum Tutorial index is a shortcut to download it as a spreadsheet.
- I download a new copy each month.
- By downloading it as a spreadsheet I can benefit from Excel's excellent filtering capabilities when I search for topics of interest.
- ElevenForum tutorials are also listed at Tutorials and there's a shortcut to that at the top of every page.

You can search ElevenForum using the search box in the top-right corner of all ElevenForum webpages or using Advanced Search - ElevenForum
- You can also search ElevenForum threads in many general search engines, such as Google, by adding site:elevenforum.com after your search term. For example,
Taskbar setup site:elevenforum.com
- [This is what the search box in the top-right corner of ElevenForum webpages does automatically]
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 25H2 Build 26200.8037
StartAllBack 💯 best in my opinion.
 

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    Win 11 Pro Insider Beta (26220.8370), Kali Linux
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    HP Victus 15
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    AMD Ryzen 5 5600H
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    16GB (2x8GB) Dual Channel
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    Nvidia RTX 3050
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    1080p IPS 144Hz (Laptop Screen) + 3x 1080p 60Hz screens
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    4x 1920x1080 monitors
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    M.2 NVMe 512GB Samsung - PCIe 4.0x4 - Main system drive

    USB-A and USB-C M.2 NVMe Enclosure with NVMe SSSTC 256GB - NVM Express 1.3 - Ventoy with all install files and all ISO images i use.

    USB External SSD Kingston XS100 1TB - USB 3.2 Gen 2 - WindowsToGo (Clone of my existing Sytem), and all games I play.

    USB External SSHD Seagate FireCuda 2TB - USB 3.0 - For Macrium system images, data, photos, stays always safe at home
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    200W
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    Zalman ZM-NC3 Cooling pad
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    Dell KM7120W
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    Dell KM7120W
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    1Gb/s down / 500Mb/s up
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    Chrome
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    Windows Defender
Last year when I posted in this thread, I was using a customized WinX menu, but few months ago I've come up with an app of my own called WinMac Menu, which generates it's own highly customizable menus. Here's how my Start Menu looks like now with addition of toolbar:

explorer_bE1jglCULm.gif
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (WinMac v1.4.0)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-12400F
    Motherboard
    B760 GAMING X DDR4
    Memory
    16 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440 @ 240Hz
    Other Info
    I loved modding and customizing operating systems since very young age, gaining experience from all important systems, including Windows, Ubuntu, MacOS and Android, which led to creation of Windows 11 mod called WinMac. Seamlessly blending the elegance of macOS with the versatility of Windows, my customized interface elevates user experience through meticulously crafted modifications and UI enhancements.

    With WinMac, every interaction with Windows 11 environment is imbued with a touch of sophistication, where the boundaries between the Windows and Mac universes blur, offering a sublime computing experience that transcends conventional limitations of Windows 11.
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    macOS Sonoma
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple MacBook Pro
    CPU
    Apple M3 Pro
    Memory
    18 GB
Last year when I posted in this thread, I was using a customized WinX menu, but few months ago I've come up with an app of my own called WinMac Menu, which generates it's own highly customizable menus. Here's how my Start Menu looks like now with addition of toolbar:

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You ought to create your own thread.
 

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    All Branches but Release
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    Acer Nitro ANV15-51
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    AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS 3200-4500 Mhz 8 cores x 2
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    Sportage_RBH
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    32 GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphic / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    AMD/Realtek(R) Audio
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    Integrated Monitor (15.3"vis)
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    FHD 1920X1080 16:9 144Hz
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    KINGSTON OM8SEP4512Q-AA 1TB
    Western Digital 256GB
    PSU
    19V DC 6.32 A 120 W
    Cooling
    Dual Fans
    Mouse
    MS Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    Fiber 1GB Cox -us & 1GB Orange-fr
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    Edge Canary- Firefox Nightly-Chrome Dev-Chrome Dev
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    Windows Defender
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    Windows 11 Beta
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    Laptop
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    Asus X751BP
    CPU
    AMD A9-9420
    Memory
    8 GB of DDR4
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    AMD Radeon R5
    Screen Resolution
    1600x900
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    Seagate 1 TB
You ought to create your own thread.
That's a good idea! I'm currently working on documentation which will describe examples of use cases, so when I'll finish this I'll create a new thread.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (WinMac v1.4.0)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-12400F
    Motherboard
    B760 GAMING X DDR4
    Memory
    16 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440 @ 240Hz
    Other Info
    I loved modding and customizing operating systems since very young age, gaining experience from all important systems, including Windows, Ubuntu, MacOS and Android, which led to creation of Windows 11 mod called WinMac. Seamlessly blending the elegance of macOS with the versatility of Windows, my customized interface elevates user experience through meticulously crafted modifications and UI enhancements.

    With WinMac, every interaction with Windows 11 environment is imbued with a touch of sophistication, where the boundaries between the Windows and Mac universes blur, offering a sublime computing experience that transcends conventional limitations of Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple MacBook Pro
    CPU
    Apple M3 Pro
    Memory
    18 GB
OpenShell none of Microsoft's post Windows 7 Start Menu's have been good. I run the classic two column start menu from the Windows XP era.
 

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    Windows 11 Education For 25H2
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    HP ZBook G2
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    Intel® Core i7 5500u
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    HP
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    8 GB
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    Intel HD Family Graphics 5500 AMD Firepro 4150M
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    Realtek High Audio
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    1 TB SSD
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    HP USB Mouse
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    Windows Defender
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    Windows 11 Pro For Workstations 25H2
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    HP Zbook G4
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    Xeon 1535m v6
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    HP
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    32 GB
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    AMD Quadro Pro 4100
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    Bang and Olufson Audio
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    1TB SSD
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    HP USB Mouse
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    Windows Defender
OpenShell none of Microsoft's post Windows 7 Start Menu's have been good. I run the classic two column start menu from the Windows XP era.
thats what windhawk is for (although now you can actually have 2, albeit stacked vertically, columns by default in 25h2

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
Open Shell with SAB............. (y)
 

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    PC/Desktop
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    Asus
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    i7
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    z97k
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    32GB
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    nVidia
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    3
    Cooling
    air
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    ESET
Open Shell with SAB............. (y)
But SAB already has few Start Menus to choose from. I'm curios what benefit does Open-Shell gives here, besides configuring start button behavior.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (WinMac v1.4.0)
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    PC/Desktop
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    Intel Core i5-12400F
    Motherboard
    B760 GAMING X DDR4
    Memory
    16 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440 @ 240Hz
    Other Info
    I loved modding and customizing operating systems since very young age, gaining experience from all important systems, including Windows, Ubuntu, MacOS and Android, which led to creation of Windows 11 mod called WinMac. Seamlessly blending the elegance of macOS with the versatility of Windows, my customized interface elevates user experience through meticulously crafted modifications and UI enhancements.

    With WinMac, every interaction with Windows 11 environment is imbued with a touch of sophistication, where the boundaries between the Windows and Mac universes blur, offering a sublime computing experience that transcends conventional limitations of Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple MacBook Pro
    CPU
    Apple M3 Pro
    Memory
    18 GB
I think many users still like OpenShell, (aka ClassicShell), cuz it's one of the 'founding fathers' of this Start Menu Rebellion!!! :cool:
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
No, it is not.
I'm successfully using EP on two 25H2 computers.
Do the update and then install the latest version of EP.
Okay, I'll try sometime when I'm not in the middle of urgent projects, in case things go sideways. I have exported my EP settings, so hopefully importing them after reinstall will smooth the process.

I can't comment on the other Start menu topics you mentioned because I never use the Start menu. My Taskbar toolbars contain everything i need.
My ExplorerPatcher guide to Windows 11 Taskbar Toolbars [post #2225] - ElevenForum
I'd never even heard of "taskbar toolbars" before. But because I use the taskbar on the side, I have less space, so I'll continue to use the start menu for all but the most frequent items in order to allow space for the icons of open apps.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI Modern 15 A5
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" laptop display + LG 34" ultrawide
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 + 3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD
    Browser
    Firefox Portable
    Antivirus
    Avast! Antivirus Free
    Other Info
    PC, keyboard, and OS are Japan-based, but interface language is set to English for my convenience (American living in Japan).
in order to allow space for the icons of open apps
OK but my pair of Taskbar Toolbars only use up about an inch of my Taskbar [which I have at the bottom of the screen].
Taskbar Toolbars.webp

If I move the Taskbar to the side then the Taskbar Toolbars use up about the same small amount until I click on them. I could avoid them covering up the Taskbar when they are in use by leaving them in their default position of the bottom end of the Taskbar.


Denis
 
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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 25H2 Build 26200.8037
But SAB already has few Start Menus to choose from. I'm curios what benefit does Open-Shell gives here, besides configuring start button behavior.
Scroll through all of Open-Shell's settings tabs for two minutes. I think you'll easily find the answer. lol
 

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  • OS
    11 Home
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    30Mbit/s up, 500Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
    Antivirus
    What's an antivirus?
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    30Mbit/s up, 500Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    30Mbit/s up, 500Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
    Antivirus
    What's an antivirus?
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    30Mbit/s up, 500Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF

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